Shams - Morant on the market

[WWSRD]

Ja and Edey for IQ and Jak works in the trade machine. Get it done Bobby.

No ones trading Edey.

[SFour]

Raptors would dominate with Morant's 20% 3pt shooting

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[Grew]

Ja and Edey for IQ and Jak works in the trade machine. Get it done Bobby.

No ones trading Edey.

Ok they don't have to. We will take Ja if they move back to Vancouver. Get it done Bobby.

[MEDIC]

Raptors would dominate with Morant's 20% 3pt shooting

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Between this stat & Gradey's +/-.......its been a weird season..

I guess we don't need IQ's shooting.

[Potential]

Replacing IQs clutch 4th quarter 3 pt shooting with Ja would make things more tense in the half court offense unless we replace Poeltl with a stretch big. We've had so many games recently where we put up horrible low 2000s 3 pt shooting stats as a team. This team on the fast break with Ja would be so elite and fun to watch. But with how they allow more contact in the playoffs Ja wouldnt be getting to the FT line as much to offset his 3 pt shooting. I'm not against it but would rather go after a bigger PG who can space the floor like LaMelo. But then again I'm not really a fan of LaMelo's game so idk

[Trilogy]

Don't let your frustrations with IQ drive towards a change for the sake of change. Morant fits poorly here with his lack of shooting/ball dominance, has a bad attitude, injury issues and signs of physical decline as a result of those issues already despite being pretty young still.

Wanting to go in a different direction than IQ is very understandable, but Morant isn't that answer.

[DreamTeam09]

Ja makes more money for 1 less yr than IQ, if IQ is a bad contract then what on earth is Ja s'pose to be?

Ja is the better player. Worst case, he becomes a valuable expiring in 2027–28. Moving Quickley for Ja also clears Quickley’s contract one year sooner.

Ja is not the better player right now, not is he a better teammate, not is he anywhere the shooter IQ is so no he isn't a better fit for this team. He's also a worse defender, but hey you might get 1 flashy dunk from the injury prone player.

Glad a lot of you guys are not in control of the organization moves, hopefully Bobby isn't out there acting as desperate as this board thinks things are.

[Johnny Bball]

Ja Morant seems like the poster child of entitled. Its not difficult to shut up and not grandstand on the court, or not flash gun signs, or not be a tool and he can't manage. If that is applied to work ethic, that is going to suffer as well. He thinks he should be allowed to do anything he wants regardless of repercussions. If that's going to be applied to relationships, teammates are going to suffer. I do not see how he ever fits a culture instead of possibly damaging it. He just seems to take short cuts and I'm not sure when this ever started.

I wouldn't want this guy unless he begged someone to help him change and rehab his entire approach, for any salary. There is no world where I would give up picks.

[earthtone]

Ja makes more money for 1 less yr than IQ, if IQ is a bad contract then what on earth is Ja s'pose to be?

You're paying Ja based on past production, hoping he can regain form in a new situation. He did finish top 10 in MVP voting in 2022.

We're paying IQ for production that never happened and never will happen. IQ is a bench player 7th/8th man on a serious team, but making all-star money.

Quick is being paid fairly - on the very high end of fair admittedly - for his current production, and has three more years to continue improving and outperforming his contract.

He’s not making all-star money. The only all-star from last year who made $32.5mil or less (on a non-rookie deal) was Tyler Herro, and Herro’s contract is going to surpass that next year.

If you think IQ is a 7/8th man on a serious team, but in real life he’s started 39/40 games for a Top 4 seed, maybe its time to readjust your evaluations?

[wegotthabeet]

Morant is worth less than Young. He is not fetching any firsts

What would it take to get JJJ in your opinion?

CMB + picks package, not worth it

Yeah seems about right. Thanks.

[wegotthabeet]

I feel like the pick should be heading the other way with Ja. No way any team is giving up a first.

[Merit]

Would y'all do this? (feel free to take out the 2031 pick if it's overkill)



A backcourt of Morant-Quick intrigues me a bit. I think IQ would excel as a SG w/ his primary ballhandler duties revoked.

Morant is an excellent playmaker and would be a huge upgrade at the PG position over IQ.

lol no, decent chance that doesn't even make us better in the short term much less the long term

He has a higher ceiling that RJ so I would do that deal. Remove the 2 1sts and give them Mamu (we likely can't re-sign him anyway).

Poeltl / Mogbo
Barnes / CMB
Ingram / Walter / Battle
Morant / Martin
IQ / Shead

I think going forward with 2 PGs full time as starters is the way to go. If you include Shead that gives us a lethal 3 man guard rotation. We also have CMB for a solid big man rotation. I think the others including Martin, Battle, Hepburn, etc will have a couple guys who make the jump into the rotation. I would give them more minutes.

IMO, no picks for ja. We keep RJ and trade IQ. Gotta get secondary pieces back too. Memphis has options.

[brownbobcat]

Don't let your frustrations with IQ drive towards a change for the sake of change. Morant fits poorly here with his lack of shooting/ball dominance, has a bad attitude, injury issues and signs of physical decline as a result of those issues already despite being pretty young still.

Wanting to go in a different direction than IQ is very understandable, but Morant isn't that answer.

If Morant were clearly the answer, he wouldn't be available for IQ.

At the same time, I'm not a fan of small-ish PGs who can't shoot well, so I'm on the fence. At his best, Ja can create paint pressure far better than anyone on the team.

[Raptorfan2012]

Would you guys rather have Morant or Herro (if there is a 3 team trade between us, Miami, and Memphis)?

[refshateRaps]

Morant is an illuminati ritual with the volume turned up.

I'm all for it. He's a better player and the drama they'll give us is good theater, if nothing else.

[djsunyc]

Darko worked well with him
Send out RJ and play him with IQ
It's the only way we do this where we don't sacrifice a ton of 3 point shooting (better to go from RJ to Ja, than IQ to To Ja)

Totally disagree. No way I want to see two undersize skinnyazz guards. Quick is too streaky anyhow. Better to hold off and find another offball shooting threat. Replace his shooting down the road.

RJ and Ja will also get in each other's way, as they both attack the basket.

Better Ja the main penetrator,
Brandon moving from mid range, to three point line, attacking the seams when it works,
Scottie diving and finding posts up in the flow,
Yak creating space for all and rolling,
quick the 3 point release valve.

What's your plan?

nobody knows what will or won't work.

there were many concerns on making rj/bi/scottie fit.

all i'm gonna say is that i think darko deserves some benefit of the doubt. he's made a lot of non-complementary pieces work together this year.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Hypothetically, would you rather move off IQ for Herro over Morant? Pretty much paid the same as IQ but has been historically a more sound offensive player. Not really a PG either, but at least can score on his own and has been a better shooter

[Merit]

Hypothetically, would you rather move off IQ for Herro over Morant? Pretty much paid the same as IQ but has been historically a more sound offensive player. Not really a PG either, but at least can score on his own and has been a better shooter

Herro’s shooting would be ideal on this team. However, he’s not really a PG and will get exposed defensively. However, he does create his own shot.

Ja has more upside in theory, but Herro is the known commodity.

I think I’d choose Herro.

That said, I’d choose a big over either of them if moving IQ. Sabonis (possible) or Giannis (a moonshot that requires picks).

[WWSRD]

Hypothetically, would you rather move off IQ for Herro over Morant? Pretty much paid the same as IQ but has been historically a more sound offensive player. Not really a PG either, but at least can score on his own and has been a better shooter

You take Herro but he isn't radioactive right now and absolutely has to be moved this year. The Heat just dont want to pay him the money he wants.

That's how bad the IQ contract is perceived league wide. You need a Ja type situation to have traction.

[WWSRD]

Morant is an illuminati ritual with the volume turned up.

I'm all for it. He's a better player and the drama they'll give us is good theater, if nothing else.

What does that mean?