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2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0

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Re: 2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0 

Post#61 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:32 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I get the feeling it’s not going to cost Herro and then we can flip him to shore up another position with hopefully a talented 2 way all star/fringe all star player

You’re stacking up way too many big salaries on this team. It doesn’t work out that way anymore. It’s hard to field 3 players making 40 mil and up disregarding the rest of the roster. Wiggins would have to go in such a deal. Bam and Morant alone will be making 90 mil plus next year not accounting for Herro 31 mil, Powell F/A, and Wiggins 30 mil opt in.


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Post#62 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:32 pm

Herro for JA is a solid deal because it involves two injury prone enigmatic players who could both use a change of scenery.
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Post#63 » by Wiltside » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:33 pm

This works in the trade checker...

Miami Heat trade:

Andrew Wiggins
Terry Rozier

Miami receives:
Ja Morant
Kentavious Caldwell Pope

Memphis trades:
Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr

Memphis receives:

Austin Reaves
Rui Hachimura
Terry Rozier
Gabe Vincent
Maxi Kleber
2 x FRP's from LA

Lakers trade:
Austin Reaves
Rui Hachimura
Gabe Vincent
Maxi Kleber
2 x FRP's

Lakers receive:

Andrew Wiggins
Jaren Jackson Jr

Heat send Wiggins out and Terry's expiring, get a 3&D wing and Morant back. There would need to be a follow up trade to send Herro or Powell out for either picks or rotation players. Memphis rebuild and send out Ja and JJJ, but get back Austin Reaves as a player to build around, along with additional picks, salary relief (all of Rui, Gabe, Rozier and Kleber are expirings), and an upcoming high lottery pick to pair with Reaves. Lakers go all in for one final push with Lebron, but add useful pieces to pair with Luka longer-term.
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Re: 2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0 

Post#64 » by SerialChiller » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:34 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I get the feeling it’s not going to cost Herro and then we can flip him to shore up another position with hopefully a talented 2 way all star/fringe all star player

You’re stacking up way too many big salaries on this team. It doesn’t work out that way anymore. It’s hard to field 3 players making 40 mil and up disregarding the rest of the roster. Wiggins would have to go in such a deal. Bam and Morant alone will be making 90 mil plus next year not accounting for Herro 31 mil, Powell F/A, and Wiggins 30 mil opt in.


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Post#65 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:35 pm

Herro and Simone for Morant so far is the most realistic offer that makes sense that does not involve some complicated league approval for Rozier.
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Post#66 » by SerialChiller » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:36 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro for JA is a solid deal because it involves two injury prone enigmatic players who could both use a change of scenery.


It also gives us more of a PG as well which would hopefully convince Spo to finally bring Davion off the bench and scrap the 3 guard lineup BS.
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Post#67 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:40 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro for JA is a solid deal because it involves two injury prone enigmatic players who could both use a change of scenery.


It also gives us more of a PG as well which would hopefully convince Spo to finally bring Davion off the bench and scrap the 3 guard lineup BS.

It’s definitely a ripple effect that also allows more time for Larrson behind Powell.
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Post#68 » by SerialChiller » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:43 pm

Herro and Fontecchio for Ja would probaly leave Spo running a depth chart like this...

Ja/Mitchell/Dru/Kaspar
Powell/Dru/Kaspar
Larsson/JJJ/Jovic
Wiggins/Jovic/Keshad
Bam/Ware/Keshad

or at least hopefully that in the very least. I'd still like to see Ware start but benching Mitchell would be is a step in the right direction for now. This team would still need another big for sure as seemly always.

But if Spo is going to go Mitchell/Ja/Powell I don't even want to do the trade haha.
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Post#69 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:44 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro and Simone for Morant so far is the most realistic offer that makes sense that does not involve some complicated league approval for Rozier.


Can we please do something with the Rozier expiring after?! That’s too big of an expiring to not capitalize on!!
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Post#70 » by SerialChiller » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:44 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro and Simone for Morant so far is the most realistic offer that makes sense that does not involve some complicated league approval for Rozier.


Can we please do something with the Rozier expiring after?! That’s too big of an expiring to not capitalize on!!


Silver better give some clarification on that soon with the deadline coming up. It's kind of ridiculous at this point to have that hanging over us still.
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Post#71 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:45 pm

SerialChiller wrote:Herro and Fontecchio for Ja would probaly leave Spo running a depth chart like this...

Ja/Mitchell/Dru/Kaspar
Powell/Dru/Kaspar
Larsson/JJJ/Jovic
Wiggins/Jovic/Keshad
Bam/Ware/Keshad

or at least hopefully that in the very least. I'd still like to see Ware start but benching Mitchell would be is a step in the right direction for now. This team would still need another big for sure as seemly always.

But if Spo is going to go Mitchell/Ja/Powell I don't even want to do the trade haha.


2 things we ALWAYS need, a backup PG and a big for depth. This will solve the PG issue at least with a Ja/Davion rotation
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Re: 2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0 

Post#72 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:46 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro and Simone for Morant so far is the most realistic offer that makes sense that does not involve some complicated league approval for Rozier.


Can we please do something with the Rozier expiring after?! That’s too big of an expiring to not capitalize on!!


Silver better give some clarification on that soon with the deadline coming up. It's kind of ridiculous at this point to have that hanging over us still.


Apparently we’re very confident we can use it and are operating as so
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Post#73 » by Wiltside » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:47 pm

SerialChiller wrote:Herro and Fontecchio for Ja would probaly leave Spo running a depth chart like this...

Ja/Mitchell/Dru/Kaspar
Powell/Dru/Kaspar
Larsson/JJJ/Jovic
Wiggins/Jovic/Keshad
Bam/Ware/Keshad

or at least hopefully that in the very least. I'd still like to see Ware start but benching Mitchell would be is a step in the right direction for now. This team would still need another big for sure as seemly always.

But if Spo is going to go Mitchell/Ja/Powell I don't even want to do the trade haha.


That's a much more balanced starting 5, with no awkward Mitchell/Powell/Herro lineups.

So help me god if Spo rolls out a Mitchell/Ja/Powell one though.
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Re: 2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0 

Post#74 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro and Simone for Morant so far is the most realistic offer that makes sense that does not involve some complicated league approval for Rozier.


Can we please do something with the Rozier expiring after?! That’s too big of an expiring to not capitalize on!!

If Herro is gone they can work something out with Rozier’s salary to add a player. Morant and Herro salaries basically wash each out with next year’s cap. Simone makes up for the increase with his salary being ear marked to already come off the books.
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Re: 2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0 

Post#75 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:51 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Can we please do something with the Rozier expiring after?! That’s too big of an expiring to not capitalize on!!


Silver better give some clarification on that soon with the deadline coming up. It's kind of ridiculous at this point to have that hanging over us still.


Apparently we’re very confident we can use it and are operating as so

I think we will be able to use it but might not be in this deal for Morant.
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Post#76 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:53 pm

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.
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Post#77 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:55 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Herro for JA is a solid deal because it involves two injury prone enigmatic players who could both use a change of scenery.

Financially there’s nothing left for a bigger fish unless you move Bam
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Post#78 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:56 pm

I'd rather have current Jimmy at his 60 mil or whatever he's making than Ja at 45. And the numbers back me up on that too. Just feels like trade for trade's sake.
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Post#79 » by Wiltside » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:57 pm

There's a bit of the Jimmy deal about this Ja Morant situation. Both had their issues; Jimmy's more so with Front Offices than off the court stuff (Ja also has issues with FO/Coaching Staff...) - but Jimmy's value was heavily depreciated when we S&T'd for him, similar to Ja.

I do wonder if the Heat FO feel this is a legit buy low opportunity and whether we can rehab him back to being on that All-NBA trajectory again. He is only 26 years old, and it was only a few years ago he was averaging 26/5/8 and finishing in the top 10 of MVP voting.

Will require a reset of our offense, probably back to more PnR, and for Ja to keep his head on straight and stop being a knucklehead. All things that are easier said than done. I don't enjoy watching some of Ja's antics, but I can understand us taking the risk. Frankly, to change our .500 trajectory, we HAVE to take some degree of risk and leap of faith. If the cost is mild and doesn't require us to pay up a ton of future assets, I'm for it.
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Post#80 » by Enso » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:57 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:Hypothetical: It’s 2024, you are Pat Riley. You get a phone call from the Mavs. “Any interest in Doncic?” What do you say? Who do you offer? Keep in mind, you have Jimmy Butler on the team looking to get paid and he aint happy he hasn’t been extended for $1 gazillion dollars yet.

With all these rumors surrounding Ja and Trae being traded, I think this question is relevant today. Did the Heat get the phone call? If they didn’t, why not? Bam is definitely a better players on a team than AD, even in 2024.


They didn’t get the call bro that was an inside job everyone knows it at this point

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