2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0

[3ammy3uck3ts]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

I was happy because we badly needed a scoring punch to help get Jimmy/Bam/Spo over the top in the playoffs and we didn’t know the FBI was on his ass. That being said, Ja is on another planet than Terry as a talent/potential etc

[3ammy3uck3ts]

There's a bit of the Jimmy deal about this Ja Morant situation. Both had their issues; Jimmy's more so with Front Offices than off the court stuff (Ja also has issues with FO/Coaching Staff...) - but Jimmy's value was heavily depreciated when we S&T'd for him, similar to Ja.

I do wonder if the Heat FO feel this is a legit buy low opportunity and whether we can rehab him back to being on that All-NBA trajectory again. He is only 26 years old, and it was only a few years ago he was averaging 26/5/8 and finishing in the top 10 of MVP voting.

Will require a reset of our offense, probably back to more PnR, and for Ja to keep his head on straight and stop being a knucklehead. All things that are easier said than done. I don't enjoy watching some of Ja's antics, but I can understand us taking the risk. Frankly, to change our .500 trajectory, we HAVE to take some degree of risk and leap of faith. If the cost is mild and doesn't require us to pay up a ton of future assets, I'm for it.

This exact situation is our whole shtick. Find an unhappy star and bring them here and give them some structure and rebuild them to their elite status. No one should be reading into his numbers from this season, there’s been too much going on from the jump and even leading back to the end of last season

[MartyCONLONNN]

If Heat land Ja for scraps, I would love to move on from the ridiculous Giannis clownshow and put those 2 picks and Herro in a deal for Trey Murphy.

Ware
Bam
Trey
Norm
Ja

better space... a lot of upside in Trey, Ja, Ware and they're locked up for a while. More importantly, apparently Trey wants to be here.

Murphy is good but he’s not Herro plus 2 1sts good.

Joe is that you?

Brother.. I don't know how closely you follow ball outside of the Heat but 50/40/90, 25YO, lengthy 6'8 player making JUST 25M through 2028?? that's absurd value and elite role player money paying to a super high ceiling elite scorer who can be a 2 way guy

[VaDe255]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

It seems more than just fan speculation with multiple credible sources reporting Heat have interest, they might want to buy low on him (in theory not a bad idea)

I hated the Terry trade for the simple reason that Terry never really showed winning impact, this one is just a risky gamble, but I see the appeal because he's an All Star talent

It would be a clear upgrade of the roster if they can get Ja for expirings + low asset, so at least in theory the team should get better this year, the downside is, if it doesn't work out, they will have to pay for this move in the future

[Kobewade11]

There's a bit of the Jimmy deal about this Ja Morant situation. Both had their issues; Jimmy's more so with Front Offices than off the court stuff (Ja also has issues with FO/Coaching Staff...) - but Jimmy's value was heavily depreciated when we S&T'd for him, similar to Ja.

I do wonder if the Heat FO feel this is a legit buy low opportunity and whether we can rehab him back to being on that All-NBA trajectory again. He is only 26 years old, and it was only a few years ago he was averaging 26/5/8 and finishing in the top 10 of MVP voting.

Will require a reset of our offense, probably back to more PnR, and for Ja to keep his head on straight and stop being a knucklehead. All things that are easier said than done. I don't enjoy watching some of Ja's antics, but I can understand us taking the risk. Frankly, to change our .500 trajectory, we HAVE to take some degree of risk and leap of faith. If the cost is mild and doesn't require us to pay up a ton of future assets, I'm for it.

Not to mention Tee acting a fool at the games

[Enso]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

Forget us, the whole basketball community thought it was a good trade at the time. We added a 25 ppg scoring punch with clutch playoff experience. Unfortunately it was cursed from the first game where we brought him off the bench and lost to the grizz I believe. Nobody knew he’d have the baggage he came with, would get injured and would forget how to play basketball. He played on a treadmill team too many years and the pressure of playing for us was too much he could never get out of his head.

Him falling off the way he did is so out of left field unless your Nostradamus nobody saw it coming.

[Lennyzinho]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

The only reason I'm not freaking out too hard, is that I think we'd use this as part of the Giannis trade. Ja that is. Especially if we get Ja for Rozier Davion Simone.

Then we'd have herro and ja and wiggins and JJJ to match salaries and make a big deal with MIL and involve a third or fourth team etc.

Ja Giannis Bam is not a good core in today's nba when spacing is so critical. Miami has to know that. If they get Ja I think its a gamble on "lets see what this looks like" and also "lets rehab his value and see what the offseason has in store for us".

And if the Heat love Wiggins so much, getting a player like Morant that locks up our cap doesnt help keep our guys. If, ofc a big if, miami does this, it's cuz thry have other moves planned now or in offseason.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Herro for JA is a solid deal because it involves two injury prone enigmatic players who could both use a change of scenery.

Financially there’s nothing left for a bigger fish unless you move Bam

Wiggins and Rozier equal 56 million along with the younger players and picks still in tact.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

There's a bit of the Jimmy deal about this Ja Morant situation. Both had their issues; Jimmy's more so with Front Offices than off the court stuff (Ja also has issues with FO/Coaching Staff...) - but Jimmy's value was heavily depreciated when we S&T'd for him, similar to Ja.

I do wonder if the Heat FO feel this is a legit buy low opportunity and whether we can rehab him back to being on that All-NBA trajectory again. He is only 26 years old, and it was only a few years ago he was averaging 26/5/8 and finishing in the top 10 of MVP voting.

Will require a reset of our offense, probably back to more PnR, and for Ja to keep his head on straight and stop being a knucklehead. All things that are easier said than done. I don't enjoy watching some of Ja's antics, but I can understand us taking the risk. Frankly, to change our .500 trajectory, we HAVE to take some degree of risk and leap of faith. If the cost is mild and doesn't require us to pay up a ton of future assets, I'm for it.

Both guys had off the court questions, but Jimmy had no on the court questions. Was very healthy to that point of his career with his play either trending up or staying at his usual all-star and fringe MVP level.

Ja isn't just an off the court mess, he's trending down in every metric on the court as well.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

The only reason I'm not freaking out too hard, is that I think we'd use this as part of the Giannis trade. Ja that is. Especially if we get Ja for Rozier Davion Simone.

Then we'd have herro and ja and wiggins and JJJ to match salaries and make a big deal with MIL and involve a third or fourth team etc.

Ja Giannis Bam is not a good core in today's nba when spacing is so critical. Miami has to know that. If they get Ja I think its a gamble on "lets see what this looks like" and also "lets rehab his value and see what the offseason has in store for us".

And if the Heat love Wiggins so much, getting a player like Morant that locks up our cap doesnt help keep our guys. If, ofc a big if, miami does this, it's cuz thry have other moves planned now or in offseason.

What's depressing to me is 35 year old Jimmy > current Ja imo, and while Jimmy's only going to get older, so is Ja. I'd have rather just kept Jimmy if it was going to get to this point and accept overpaying him when he's old. Ja is the ultimate "welp we have nothing better to do let's just try it", just a complete double down.

People can't stand Herro, but you know what? We can walk away from him, only 1 year left and he's only owed 33 on that year. Ja has 2, at around 45 average per. And even more baggage than Herro. We're going all in with a worse player (I mean vs Jimmy though Tyler even has an argument over Ja if he weren't hurt all the time) and a worse team. Just feels like utter dog ****.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

Forget us, the whole basketball community thought it was a good trade at the time. We added a 25 ppg scoring punch with clutch playoff experience. Unfortunately it was cursed from the first game where we brought him off the bench and lost to the grizz I believe. Nobody knew he’d have the baggage he came with, would get injured and would forget how to play basketball. He played on a treadmill team too many years and the pressure of playing for us was too much he could never get out of his head.

Him falling off the way he did is so out of left field unless your Nostradamus nobody saw it coming.

Call me nostradamus then because I was questioning whether it would be a good deal. And it wasn't the whole basketball community, but in general hoopers are way too infatuated with AI types, small guards with great athleticism that can wow you and put up points. It's also my least favorite NBA archetype because they inevitably almost always get overrated, and age like milk. Fun to watch at their best, but impact on the games is always overstated.

There are people to this day that will argue AI is the goat because of the way people rate these kind of guards. Always makes me shake my head but I know you'll never get through to those types.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

Forget us, the whole basketball community thought it was a good trade at the time. We added a 25 ppg scoring punch with clutch playoff experience. Unfortunately it was cursed from the first game where we brought him off the bench and lost to the grizz I believe. Nobody knew he’d have the baggage he came with, would get injured and would forget how to play basketball. He played on a treadmill team too many years and the pressure of playing for us was too much he could never get out of his head.

Him falling off the way he did is so out of left field unless your Nostradamus nobody saw it coming.

Call me nostradamus then because I was questioning whether it would be a good deal. And it wasn't the whole basketball community, but in general hoopers are way too infatuated with AI types, small guards with great athleticism that can wow you and put up points. It's also my least favorite NBA archetype because they inevitably almost always get overrated, and age like milk. Fun to watch at their best, but impact on the games is always overstated.

There are people to this day that will argue AI is the goat because of the way people rate these kind of guards. Always makes me shake my head but I know you'll never get through to those types.

AI might be the most overrated player ever, sorry NOT sorry

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Also it's not just this year, though this year's been especially bad, if you look at his impact metrics Ja has been trending down a few years now, his peak in his career was his age 22/23 seasons and everything has been worse since then, sounds a lot like Stevie Franchise to me.

I will pray it works out miraculously, but Jimmy wasn't actively getting worse on the court when we got him, his only issue was being a **** to front office and sometimes teammates.

[marson]

If we can get Ja for Rozier/Simone without giving up a pick, then I’m all for it. I don’t get why some people are worried about the money tied up in Norm and Herro. They can simply let Norm walk next offseason, just like the Clippers did, and Tyler still has one year left on his contract. That basically gives him another season to prove himself, so there’s no real pressure on the Heat to extend him right away.

[CWebb2491]

If Heat land Ja for scraps, I would love to move on from the ridiculous Giannis clownshow and put those 2 picks and Herro in a deal for Trey Murphy.

Ware
Bam
Trey
Norm
Ja

better space... a lot of upside in Trey, Ja, Ware and they're locked up for a while. More importantly, apparently Trey wants to be here.

Murphy is good but he’s not Herro plus 2 1sts good.

Joe is that you?

Brother.. I don't know how closely you follow ball outside of the Heat but 50/40/90, 25YO, lengthy 6'8 player making JUST 25M through 2028?? that's absurd value and elite role player money paying to a super high ceiling elite scorer who can be a 2 way guy

I’m a fan of his game. Would love him in Miami.

But trading Herro and 2 firsts would take us out of the running for any genuine starts for the next few years.
Murphy isn’t worth losing out on a real star.

[Lennyzinho]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

The only reason I'm not freaking out too hard, is that I think we'd use this as part of the Giannis trade. Ja that is. Especially if we get Ja for Rozier Davion Simone.

Then we'd have herro and ja and wiggins and JJJ to match salaries and make a big deal with MIL and involve a third or fourth team etc.

Ja Giannis Bam is not a good core in today's nba when spacing is so critical. Miami has to know that. If they get Ja I think its a gamble on "lets see what this looks like" and also "lets rehab his value and see what the offseason has in store for us".

And if the Heat love Wiggins so much, getting a player like Morant that locks up our cap doesnt help keep our guys. If, ofc a big if, miami does this, it's cuz thry have other moves planned now or in offseason.

What's depressing to me is 35 year old Jimmy > current Ja imo, and while Jimmy's only going to get older, so is Ja. I'd have rather just kept Jimmy if it was going to get to this point and accept overpaying him when he's old. Ja is the ultimate "welp we have nothing better to do let's just try it", just a complete double down.

People can't stand Herro, but you know what? We can walk away from him, only 1 year left and he's only owed 33 on that year. Ja has 2, at around 45 average per. And even more baggage than Herro. We're going all in with a worse player (I mean vs Jimmy though Tyler even has an argument over Ja if he weren't hurt all the time) and a worse team. Just feels like utter dog ****.

100%... jimmy never really played with ware or Pelle. If we still had jimmy and got Powell we'd be dangerous. Miami didn't wanna pay him and powell fell into our lap.

Miami has a bunch of decisions to make. And we dont even know who's making them or what direction.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Kobewade11]

Herro for JA is a solid deal because it involves two injury prone enigmatic players who could both use a change of scenery.

Financially there’s nothing left for a bigger fish unless you move Bam

Wiggins and Rozier equal 56 million along with the younger players and picks still in tact.

Which of those young players can you sell as the face of a superstar trade package with Wiggins and Rozier?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Herro, Simone, and Keshad

for

Morant and Londale

This version gets us a much needed backup Center.

[broke]

lol this is so depressing, feels like being at the bar at the end of the night and your buddies are trying to hype you up to take home the 300 lb hambeast. Maybe I won't actively root against the team, but I'm highly skeptical this works out. Feels like Rozier 2.0 except with even higher stakes this time with the money he's owed. I wonder how many of you guys were celebrating the Rozier deal a couple years ago.

The only reason I'm not freaking out too hard, is that I think we'd use this as part of the Giannis trade. Ja that is. Especially if we get Ja for Rozier Davion Simone.

Then we'd have herro and ja and wiggins and JJJ to match salaries and make a big deal with MIL and involve a third or fourth team etc.

Ja Giannis Bam is not a good core in today's nba when spacing is so critical. Miami has to know that. If they get Ja I think its a gamble on "lets see what this looks like" and also "lets rehab his value and see what the offseason has in store for us".

And if the Heat love Wiggins so much, getting a player like Morant that locks up our cap doesnt help keep our guys. If, ofc a big if, miami does this, it's cuz thry have other moves planned now or in offseason.

I think MIL hangs up immediately if we're not including Bam in any trade for Giannis