Official Scottie All Star Barnes Thread 10

[TorontoBarneys]

Phenomenal game from him tonight.

[dTox]

When people bang this gong, it cannot be repeated enough that he isnt now, has never been, and will never be a natural scorer. At some point, this needs to sink in.

Yup. There was a time when many, myself included, hoped he’d take that next step as a scorer…and it just isn’t happening. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an extremely talented and valuable player.

**** all u ingrates, Scottie might be the best 2 way player since Prime Kawhi and KG beforehand. He brings it on both sides every single game while his consistency and maturity is getting better and better every game. Why the preoccupation about points, the teams has enough scorers and Scottie usually brings it in crunch time. He rebounds, he facilitates, he defends and does all the intangibles, he might just be the most complete player in the NBA this side of Victor Wembanyama. If the NBA prioritizes 2 way play instead of points Scottie is 1b to Victors 1A in NBA MVP race, that's just straight facts.

He literally called him an extremely talented and valuable player, and your response was to attack him and then follow that up with the claim that Scottie is the best two way player since kg/Kawhi? Good grief man.

[ArthurVandelay]

When people bang this gong, it cannot be repeated enough that he isnt now, has never been, and will never be a natural scorer. At some point, this needs to sink in.

Yup. There was a time when many, myself included, hoped he’d take that next step as a scorer…and it just isn’t happening. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an extremely talented and valuable player.

**** all u ingrates, Scottie might be the best 2 way player since Prime Kawhi and KG beforehand. He brings it on both sides every single game while his consistency and maturity is getting better and better every game. Why the preoccupation about points, the teams has enough scorers and Scottie usually brings it in crunch time. He rebounds, he facilitates, he defends and does all the intangibles, he might just be the most complete player in the NBA this side of Victor Wembanyama. If the NBA prioritizes 2 way play instead of points Scottie is 1b to Victors 1A in NBA MVP race, that's just straight facts.

lol so you agree Scottie is an extremely talented and valuable basketball player?

[MiamiSPX]

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[MEDIC]

When people bang this gong, it cannot be repeated enough that he isnt now, has never been, and will never be a natural scorer. At some point, this needs to sink in.

Yup. There was a time when many, myself included, hoped he’d take that next step as a scorer…and it just isn’t happening. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an extremely talented and valuable player.

**** all u ingrates, Scottie might be the best 2 way player since Prime Kawhi and KG beforehand. He brings it on both sides every single game while his consistency and maturity is getting better and better every game. Why the preoccupation about points, the teams has enough scorers and Scottie usually brings it in crunch time. He rebounds, he facilitates, he defends and does all the intangibles, he might just be the most complete player in the NBA this side of Victor Wembanyama. If the NBA prioritizes 2 way play instead of points Scottie is 1b to Victors 1A in NBA MVP race, that's just straight facts.

My comp for Scottie (in terms impact) since last season has been Boston Celtics KG. That's his trajectory.

[HiJiNX]

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[GoRapstheoriginal]

I think it cut off the 2nd information?

[YogurtProducer]

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Imagine Giannis and Barnes wrecking havoc on opposing frontcourts. RJ + Jak + Agbaji MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IQ/Shead
Walter/Dick
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/CMB
Giannis/Mamu

[tsherkin]

When people bang this gong, it cannot be repeated enough that he isnt now, has never been, and will never be a natural scorer. At some point, this needs to sink in.

Yup. There was a time when many, myself included, hoped he’d take that next step as a scorer…and it just isn’t happening. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an extremely talented and valuable player.

**** all u ingrates, Scottie might be the best 2 way player since Prime Kawhi and KG beforehand. He brings it on both sides every single game while his consistency and maturity is getting better and better every game. Why the preoccupation about points, the teams has enough scorers and Scottie usually brings it in crunch time. He rebounds, he facilitates, he defends and does all the intangibles, he might just be the most complete player in the NBA this side of Victor Wembanyama. If the NBA prioritizes 2 way play instead of points Scottie is 1b to Victors 1A in NBA MVP race, that's just straight facts.

So, that was an inappropriate response. Criticism doesn't always mean a dim view of a player, and no one is perfect. And it's exhausting to equivocate on every post for sensitive folks like yourself who lose their minds when one doesn't always include a long chain of flowery compliments in every post made about a player.

Scottie is having an AS-caliber season. My entire point was that people are heaping expectations on him which are too heavy, and that we should stop and appreciate what he's actually doing instead of just whining that he isn't doing better as a scorer.

So maybe calm down and be more courteous to other posters.

[Tripod]

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Imagine Giannis and Barnes wrecking havoc on opposing frontcourts. RJ + Jak + Agbaji MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IQ/Shead
Walter/Dick
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/CMB
Giannis/Mamu

It's funny how in both of those X posts, RJ is 10th in both and it goes seemingly unnoticed.

Note: not directed at you, just thought it was funny he was in your trade while on those lists.

[deck]

Scottie is having an AS-caliber season. My entire point was that people are heaping expectations on him which are too heavy, and that we should stop and appreciate what he's actually doing instead of just whining that he isn't doing better as a scorer.

I don't see that anyone was heaping unrealistic expectations on Barnes, or banging the gong about him becoming a natural scorer. The poster just highlighted places where Barnes certainly can become a better scorer. Your ostensible assertion that Barnes cannot continue to improve in those areas is the incorrect statement. It's also a bit hypocritical to suggest posters need to be more courteous and then several words later dismiss the first post you responded to was 'whining'.

And it's exhausting to equivocate on every post for sensitive folks like yourself who lose their minds when one doesn't always include a long chain of flowery compliments in every post made about a player.

But of course everyone else should equivocate their posts for your benefit to clarify that they were not suggesting Barnes is a natural scorer.

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Nice! Scottie unleasing his inner Giannis.

What is equally impressive is RJ being on both of those lists. That guy has been a beast for us in the 4th this season. Imposes his will.

[YogurtProducer]

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Imagine Giannis and Barnes wrecking havoc on opposing frontcourts. RJ + Jak + Agbaji MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IQ/Shead
Walter/Dick
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/CMB
Giannis/Mamu

It's funny how in both of those X posts, RJ is 10th in both and it goes seemingly unnoticed.

Note: not directed at you, just thought it was funny he was in your trade while on those lists.

Haha yeah, but the gao between Giannis at 1 and whoever at 2 is alreasy massive enough

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[tsherkin]

Not Scottie's greatest game. Bit rough in the first half, but played his usual diverse game. Crap in the 3rd, crap in the 4th, then woke up in the OT, but it was too late. We had an epic drought in the 4th and that slaughtered us.

Couple of nice drives and post-ups there from Scottie, though, which were nice to see.

[Vampirate]

Not Scottie's greatest game. Bit rough in the first half, but played his usual diverse game. Crap in the 3rd, crap in the 4th, then woke up in the OT, but it was too late. We had an epic drought in the 4th and that slaughtered us.

Couple of nice drives and post-ups there from Scottie, though, which were nice to see.

Barnes 3 point shot looks like it just dissapeared this month, just 1 hit 3 point shot puts him scoring 27 points on 21 shots which looks much different than 24 pts on 21 shots.

Barnes is indeed going back to hsi mean, but his mean isn't shooting 10.5% from 3, that is what Amen might average a month and as poor of a 3 point shooter barnes is, he's not Amen Thompson levels bad. So I do think he'll have some good games soon from 3 to rebalance his ice cold streak he's cirrently at (not saying he's going to shoot 35+% this entire month, but certainly not 105% where he's currently at either).

On the plus end his FTR has been getting to his career averages as well, and since prior to this year his FTr has been steadilly climbing up, it's not unreasonable for him to get it to slightly above .300 (last year his down year his FTr was at .284 for reference)

In totality he's getting to the SB were all envisioning, get to the line at a slightly below All Star rate and eat at the midrange, hoping his 3 point shot is respectable enough.

the biggest difference between Barnes and Cade is Cade gets to the FT line at a an elite rate. 'This' version of cade i'd easily take over Paolo considering while Cade isn't the best finisher, he easily makes up for that with elite mid range shooting, kudos to him.

[Tripod]

Not Scottie's greatest game. Bit rough in the first half, but played his usual diverse game. Crap in the 3rd, crap in the 4th, then woke up in the OT, but it was too late. We had an epic drought in the 4th and that slaughtered us.

Couple of nice drives and post-ups there from Scottie, though, which were nice to see.

Barnes 3 point shot looks like it just dissapeared this month, just 1 hit 3 point shot puts him scoring 27 points on 21 shots which looks much different than 24 pts on 21 shots.

Barnes is indeed going back to hsi mean, but his mean isn't shooting 10.5% from 3, that is what Amen might average a month and as poor of a 3 point shooter barnes is, he's not Amen Thompson levels bad. So I do think he'll have some good games soon from 3 to rebalance his ice cold streak he's cirrently at (not saying he's going to shoot 35+% this entire month, but certainly not 105% where he's currently at either).

On the plus end his FTR has been getting to his career averages as well, and since prior to this year his FTr has been steadilly climbing up, it's not unreasonable for him to get it to slightly above .300 (last year his down year his FTr was at .284 for reference)

In totality he's getting to the SB were all envisioning, get to the line at a slightly below All Star rate and eat at the midrange, hoping his 3 point shot is respectable enough.

the biggest difference between Barnes and Cade is Cade gets to the FT line at a an elite rate. 'This' version of cade i'd easily take over Paolo considering while Cade isn't the best finisher, he easily makes up for that with elite mid range shooting, kudos to him.

He has had a bunch of in and out 3's the last month. The whole team has it seems.

Last night we had 4 in the first Q

[HumbleRen]

23% from the 3 since December 1st. That's 20+ games now lol.

[PushDaRock]

Not Scottie's greatest game. Bit rough in the first half, but played his usual diverse game. Crap in the 3rd, crap in the 4th, then woke up in the OT, but it was too late. We had an epic drought in the 4th and that slaughtered us.

Couple of nice drives and post-ups there from Scottie, though, which were nice to see.

Barnes 3 point shot looks like it just dissapeared this month, just 1 hit 3 point shot puts him scoring 27 points on 21 shots which looks much different than 24 pts on 21 shots.

Barnes is indeed going back to hsi mean, but his mean isn't shooting 10.5% from 3, that is what Amen might average a month and as poor of a 3 point shooter barnes is, he's not Amen Thompson levels bad. So I do think he'll have some good games soon from 3 to rebalance his ice cold streak he's cirrently at (not saying he's going to shoot 35+% this entire month, but certainly not 105% where he's currently at either).

On the plus end his FTR has been getting to his career averages as well, and since prior to this year his FTr has been steadilly climbing up, it's not unreasonable for him to get it to slightly above .300 (last year his down year his FTr was at .284 for reference)

In totality he's getting to the SB were all envisioning, get to the line at a slightly below All Star rate and eat at the midrange, hoping his 3 point shot is respectable enough.

the biggest difference between Barnes and Cade is Cade gets to the FT line at a an elite rate. 'This' version of cade i'd easily take over Paolo considering while Cade isn't the best finisher, he easily makes up for that with elite mid range shooting, kudos to him.

Seems to have lost all confidence in his shot again. Disappointing but not too unexpected.

Scottie doesn't get too many calls because he's often not beating his man clean and jumps into defenders hoping to get calls. It's just hard to get those when he so often looks off balance on his attempts at the rim.

[PushDaRock]

23% from the 3 since December 1st. That's 20+ games now lol.

unfortunately it's not just him either, it's the entire team