Fischer/Stein: Raps trying to see what RJ/IQ/Poeltl gets // Still trying for Anthony Davis

PushDaRock · Post #381 » by **PushDaRock** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 1:20 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:RJ and Poeltl not on the bench…

ruh roh!!!

SurgeIblocka · Post #382 » by **SurgeIblocka** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:19 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:RJ and Poeltl not on the bench…

RJ was there

MEDIC · Post #383 » by **MEDIC** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:37 am

earthtone wrote:
MEDIC wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:

Read on Twitter
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“The likelihood of this team being the same team by the end of the year is probably zero.”

- Bobby Webster.

When we trade Ochai & a 2nd for Nick Richards the prophecy will be complete

I hope that's it. These other trade rumours make the state of affairs look pretty bleak.

MEDIC · Post #384 » by **MEDIC** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:39 am

RaptorPride wrote:
tsherkin wrote:This article makes me sad. I keep hoping now that he's playing well that we'll find a way to keep RJ here, but it doesn't seem likely to happen.

We seem far more likely to blow what assets we have on guys who won't get it done for us.

I think they are tryna sell high on RJ. We would be all over trading RJ if he wasn't playing good like IQ, Jak, Dick, Oachi. But it feels like it could a Norm situation where in 3 year RJ becomes a legit real good player.

I fully expect RJ to put everything together in his prime. He has the tools. I could see him being an allstar 2 or 3 times in his career.

PushDaRock · Post #385 » by **PushDaRock** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:53 am

MEDIC wrote:
earthtone wrote:
MEDIC wrote:
“The likelihood of this team being the same team by the end of the year is probably zero.”

- Bobby Webster.

When we trade Ochai & a 2nd for Nick Richards the prophecy will be complete

I hope that's it. These other trade rumours make the state of affairs look pretty bleak.

Nick Richards has legit been one of the worst players in the league this season. Only bright side is not having to hear how we need a C anymore. We will have one, just a useless one.

mademan · Post #386 » by **mademan** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:05 am

Spates wrote:
mademan wrote:
Indeed wrote:No one wants Quickley's contract.
It seems Barrett/Poeltl/Agbaji for Davis/Exum, I wonder if we need to include picks.
After all, we are still over the tax with no good guards.

ofc picks would need to be included, and i'd guess multiple 1sts. That package going out is negative. RJ may be needed for our team, but he hasnt been better this year than last when the Pel's decided they wanted Bruce Brown's expiring over him. Nothing has changed in the valuation over RJ league-wide, and Poeltl is a straight up bad contract. Im guessing there would be 2 1sts involved in this, in which case i wouldnt do it. Investing in AD is a dumb idea, and the Mavs can just dump him over taking back bad money

Lol that's crazy talk. Picks for 45 games/season of mid-thirties AD. Nope, maybe 2nd rounders

Any combination of IQ/RJ/Poeltl is negative value, and AD, warts and all, will still return a positive package. It would take multiple 1sts to turn those guys into AD, and im not advocating for it.

PushDaRock · Post #387 » by **PushDaRock** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:19 am

mademan wrote:
Spates wrote:
mademan wrote:
ofc picks would need to be included, and i'd guess multiple 1sts. That package going out is negative. RJ may be needed for our team, but he hasnt been better this year than last when the Pel's decided they wanted Bruce Brown's expiring over him. Nothing has changed in the valuation over RJ league-wide, and Poeltl is a straight up bad contract. Im guessing there would be 2 1sts involved in this, in which case i wouldnt do it. Investing in AD is a dumb idea, and the Mavs can just dump him over taking back bad money

Lol that's crazy talk. Picks for 45 games/season of mid-thirties AD. Nope, maybe 2nd rounders

Any combination of IQ/RJ/Poeltl is negative value, and AD, warts and all, will still return a positive package. It would take multiple 1sts to turn those guys into AD, and im not advocating for it.

I'm cool with keeping our "negative value" players.

mademan · Post #388 » by **mademan** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:27 am

PushDaRock wrote:
mademan wrote:
Spates wrote:Lol that's crazy talk. Picks for 45 games/season of mid-thirties AD. Nope, maybe 2nd rounders

Any combination of IQ/RJ/Poeltl is negative value, and AD, warts and all, will still return a positive package. It would take multiple 1sts to turn those guys into AD, and im not advocating for it.

I'm cool with keeping our "negative value" players.

Im not. But im not a fan of AD, so im cool keeping them in this instance.

Tor_Raps · Post #389 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:27 am

No one's trading for Poeltl and his 100M contract until he shows he can play effectively with the back being a non issue. Until then, remove him from any potential trade.

RJ is much better than his perceived value so its better to keep him.

I want Ball but Charlotte has no reason to break up their young team. That pretty much leaves IQ + fillers for Ja. Sign me up lol

bballsparkin · Post #390 » by **bballsparkin** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:57 am

PushDaRock wrote:
I'm cool with keeping our "negative value" players.

Lets keep them. And maybe one day they'll be worth picks. So we can trade them for picks. Hoping to draft a player that one day we can trade for picks.

bballsparkin · Post #391 » by **bballsparkin** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:58 am

Tor_Raps wrote:No one's trading for Poeltl and his 100M contract until he shows he can play effectively with the back being a non issue. Until then, remove him from any potential trade.

RJ is much better than his perceived value so its better to keep him.

I want Ball but Charlotte has no reason to break up their young team. That pretty much leaves IQ + fillers for Ja. Sign me up lol

Sign me up too lol. Why not. No picks. Unless seconds.

Indeed · Post #392 » by **Indeed** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 1:06 pm

mademan wrote:
Spates wrote:
mademan wrote:
ofc picks would need to be included, and i'd guess multiple 1sts. That package going out is negative. RJ may be needed for our team, but he hasnt been better this year than last when the Pel's decided they wanted Bruce Brown's expiring over him. Nothing has changed in the valuation over RJ league-wide, and Poeltl is a straight up bad contract. Im guessing there would be 2 1sts involved in this, in which case i wouldnt do it. Investing in AD is a dumb idea, and the Mavs can just dump him over taking back bad money

Lol that's crazy talk. Picks for 45 games/season of mid-thirties AD. Nope, maybe 2nd rounders

Any combination of IQ/RJ/Poeltl is negative value, and AD, warts and all, will still return a positive package. It would take multiple 1sts to turn those guys into AD, and im not advocating for it.

I disagree that Davis is a positive package.
Quickley and Poeltl are negative due to their contracts, while Davis is negative due to his absent with injuries.

As for the lineup fit and having all the salary at the Forward and or Center, that is unlikely a good way to manage a team, all these just meant to manage salaries.

Spates · Post #393 » by **Spates** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 1:19 pm

mademan wrote:
Spates wrote:
mademan wrote:
ofc picks would need to be included, and i'd guess multiple 1sts. That package going out is negative. RJ may be needed for our team, but he hasnt been better this year than last when the Pel's decided they wanted Bruce Brown's expiring over him. Nothing has changed in the valuation over RJ league-wide, and Poeltl is a straight up bad contract. Im guessing there would be 2 1sts involved in this, in which case i wouldnt do it. Investing in AD is a dumb idea, and the Mavs can just dump him over taking back bad money

Lol that's crazy talk. Picks for 45 games/season of mid-thirties AD. Nope, maybe 2nd rounders

Any combination of IQ/RJ/Poeltl is negative value, and AD, warts and all, will still return a positive package. It would take multiple 1sts to turn those guys into AD, and im not advocating for it.

Seems like you would wager your paycheck for Lotto Max ticket

earthtone · Post #394 » by **earthtone** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:17 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
MEDIC wrote:
earthtone wrote:When we trade Ochai & a 2nd for Nick Richards the prophecy will be complete

I hope that's it. These other trade rumours make the state of affairs look pretty bleak.

Nick Richards has legit been one of the worst players in the league this season. Only bright side is not having to hear how we need a C anymore. We will have one, just a useless one.

Oh for sure, Nick Richards is horrendous but he fits the cap needs.

A good deadline is my books is making a small move to duck the tax and then just riding it out to see what this core looks like in the playoffs

PushDaRock · Post #395 » by **PushDaRock** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:23 pm

earthtone wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
MEDIC wrote:
I hope that's it. These other trade rumours make the state of affairs look pretty bleak.

Nick Richards has legit been one of the worst players in the league this season. Only bright side is not having to hear how we need a C anymore. We will have one, just a useless one.

Oh for sure, Nick Richards is horrendous but he fits the cap needs.

A good deadline is my books is making a small move to duck the tax and then just riding it out to see what this core looks like in the playoffs

They could just dump Temple + cash to another team and convert Martin to a normal deal to duck the tax.

ImaBeatDatAzz · Post #396 » by **ImaBeatDatAzz** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:26 pm

We get off IQ’s contract for the chance of Ja redeeming himself here, sign me up as well

navyblue · Post #397 » by **navyblue** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:49 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
earthtone wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Nick Richards has legit been one of the worst players in the league this season. Only bright side is not having to hear how we need a C anymore. We will have one, just a useless one.

Oh for sure, Nick Richards is horrendous but he fits the cap needs.

A good deadline is my books is making a small move to duck the tax and then just riding it out to see what this core looks like in the playoffs

They could just dump Temple + cash to another team and convert Martin to a normal deal to duck the tax.

barring another move, this the easiest and cheapest way to duck tax

mademan · Post #398 » by **mademan** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:19 pm

Spates wrote:
mademan wrote:
Spates wrote:Lol that's crazy talk. Picks for 45 games/season of mid-thirties AD. Nope, maybe 2nd rounders

Any combination of IQ/RJ/Poeltl is negative value, and AD, warts and all, will still return a positive package. It would take multiple 1sts to turn those guys into AD, and im not advocating for it.

Seems like you would wager your paycheck for Lotto Max ticket

Nah. Just understand that teams arent gonna make terrible financial decisions, even when they make terrible on court ones. IQ/Poeltl run too long for any team to want them. Letting AD walk after next year is a better option

mademan · Post #399 » by **mademan** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:24 pm

Of all the discounted stars, Lamelo is still the best target, imo. Charlotte may not be as motivated to move him as Dallas and Memphis are their guys, but he's the most 'fixable' of all the problem stars.

Tor_Raps · Post #400 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:34 pm

mademan wrote:Of all the discounted stars, Lamelo is still the best target, imo. Charlotte may not be as motivated to move him as Dallas and Memphis are their guys, but he's the most 'fixable' of all the problem stars.

Charlotte has no reason to move off Lamelo unless the situation gets bad. They've been playing great for their standards for the past month or so when the team is healthy.