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Post#1741 » by brownbobcat » Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:59 am

WWSRD wrote:Why can’t he handle the 5 for extended periods?

He is doing that now. He’s handling it very well. If he can do it against Zubac, then he pretty much has addressed the size concern issue. We know he has the speed for it.

He’s just a weird prospect.

Dollar to donuts, Zubac is going to see a small guy on him and try to bully tonight. Very curious to see just how strong CMB is.

Because 6'7" 245 is on the small side and he's going to take a lot of physical abuse over a full season(s) playing the 5. Getting his shot off cleanly in the paint is going to be harder, too. He's basically the same size as OG but a little thicker.
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Post#1742 » by DaFroMan » Fri Jan 16, 2026 10:43 am

Front office knocked it out the park with this one. You can watch a player and just know when they have "it".

His instincts defensively, passing and on the glass are super impressive for a rookie and hes not a head case like draymond.

His emergence has brought some excitement for the future as he's still super young with already the Sav of a vet.
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Post#1743 » by dballislife » Fri Jan 16, 2026 10:53 am

cmb and barnes playing together at the 4 and 5 so far has produced elite defensive numbers...and this is with a rookie cmb, in their primes they can be nba best defensive combo
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Post#1744 » by Brinbe » Fri Jan 16, 2026 2:49 pm

Maybe this was already discussed when the lifting comments came out but I thought this piece was pretty instructive in digging further in to what makes CMB tick and dominate.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/collin-murray-bruiser-forcing-his-way-into-essential-role-with-raptors/

“I like to get a lot of extra lifting in,” he says. “Just so I can gain muscle. I’m not going in the weight room just to bulls---. I’m trying to get the most out of it possible. I ask for a lot of extra stuff when we finish a workout. I always do more upper-body stuff, because we do more lower-body-focused stuff, a lot of core work. I definitely want to get a full body feel, and especially I want to feel sore after a back-to-back, because I know going into the next day, it’s a rest day, so I know I can recover. It’s just trying to get the most out of my time.”

“I'm a rebounder, like, that was the aspect of my game in college,” he said. “The really big thing with getting rebounds is making multiple efforts. So I've always had that in my game, and just being in the right spot, at the right time. I've been doing the work early. There's been some things that I’ve needed to adjust to, especially in a bigger, faster, stronger league. It's not as easy as letting the rebound fall in your hands. You gotta go get it. So that's been really big for me.”


I admit I was very skeptical of the fit because the track record of smaller players succeeding as bigs in the league isn't the greatest but CMB is simply an outlier. A very special one. He hasn't even really been asked to show off any of his ball skills as a creator and he's got plenty of that in his bag too.

I also previously thought they should try to convert him to a kawhi-like power wing and maybe shed some weight to unlock some latent athleticism, but that was all wrong. CMB is plenty strong, athletic and lengthy enough to get by right now. He's a Barkley and that's how they should treat him.

Teams built on grit/hustle usually overperform and are a blueprint for most every successful championship team as saw we ourselves in 2019. The key will be having just enough scoring/shooting to keep up but even then they've shot sub-40 and managed to win, so the defensive upside is that strong. Once they get out of this shooting slump they're gonna surprise a lot of people.

That project 6'9 build is still alive and they finally found the defensive anchor for it.
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Post#1745 » by Blazing_royale » Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:22 pm

He's such a unique prospect that people are trying to write him off being able to play Center. If the guy is playing center right now and doing good at it, why are we trying to put him in a box like strictly a 3 or 4. We're just not use to seeing someone like him handle the 5. He's doing great there, let him at it until he complains about it.
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Post#1746 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Jan 16, 2026 4:40 pm

I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.
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Post#1747 » by tsherkin » Fri Jan 16, 2026 5:05 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.


Zubac's whole shtick on O is using off-ball movement and his size/power to get stuff done. He's going to be a challenge, but we'll see what CMB can do!

If he's able to hack it against Zubac, that'll be interesting. Zubac was 240 lbs at the combine a decade ago, which is about the same weight as CMB, and with a similar wingspan but like half a foot taller. Presumably he's got about 5" of extra reach, give or take.

Should be interesting to see how that battle goes, especially given that Zubac has had more time to develop his body and his game beyond just that size difference. CMB has a strong base and great reach, so he's got at least something to work with.
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Post#1748 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jan 16, 2026 7:09 pm

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Post#1749 » by HangTime » Fri Jan 16, 2026 7:36 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.


I can see CMB being a tough matchup for them, and we bait opponents into interior play.
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Post#1750 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:45 am

RoteSchroder wrote:I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.


I think you can take Zubac out of there. CMB played just fine out there, and an outstanding first half. If he can get his three more consistent over the next few years, he's going to put some real pressure on these types of Cs.

So I'll assume all of the CMB isn't a centre talk is over now. In just three weeks.
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Post#1751 » by PushDaRock » Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:51 am

The blister likely bothered him a lot out there but he was really indecisive on offense tonight. Some good tape for him to learn from.
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Post#1752 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Jan 17, 2026 4:10 am



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Post#1753 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jan 17, 2026 4:41 am

Zubac clearly won the matchup. Too big.
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Post#1754 » by Appostis » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:31 am

ItsDanger wrote:Zubac clearly won the matchup. Too big.


Give CMB a couple years
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Post#1755 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:41 am

ItsDanger wrote:Zubac clearly won the matchup. Too big.


CMB held his own. That's not a matchup I'd be concerned about even a year or two from now.
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Post#1756 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:43 am

Zubac was too good tonight, if he can develop an outside offensive game though he can absolutely win these matchups by being more of a mismatch on one end vs Zubac that he forces teams to go small and then destroys his matchup on the interior. That's the dream in two to three years where he becomes a matchup nightmare and then we're looking at an all NBA type player.
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Post#1757 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:44 am

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Post#1758 » by RoteSchroder » Sat Jan 17, 2026 8:36 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.


I think you can take Zubac out of there. CMB played just fine out there, and an outstanding first half. If he can get his three more consistent over the next few years, he's going to put some real pressure on these types of Cs.

So I'll assume all of the CMB isn't a centre talk is over now. In just three weeks.


They were double or triple teaming a lot when Zubac got the ball and CMB wasn’t even on him half the time. I think on two of those triple teams, Zubac just scored anyways.
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Post#1759 » by Indeed » Sat Jan 17, 2026 1:10 pm

HangTime wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.


I can see CMB being a tough matchup for them, and we bait opponents into interior play.


We have CMB guarding C, it doesn't mean other teams C are guarding CMB in the future. Their coach may have their C guarding Barnes, lol.
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Post#1760 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat Jan 17, 2026 1:18 pm

Indeed wrote:
HangTime wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:I think players like Zubac, Gobert, Edey may be tougher match-ups for CMB. They have both size and strength. Will be interesting to see how CMB handles today.


I can see CMB being a tough matchup for them, and we bait opponents into interior play.


We have CMB guarding C, it doesn't mean other teams C are guarding CMB in the future. Their coach may have their C guarding Barnes, lol.


That's still a mismatch.

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