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Re: Shams - Morant on the market 

Post#361 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun Jan 18, 2026 3:38 pm

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God Squad wrote:I'm more inclined to stand pat at the TDL than make a move for Ja, Davis, or Sabonis. I'd rather revisit during the offseason as new players and our/other situations become clearer.


That's where I am at as well.

Good things are happening. The emergence of CMB (& Shead) have taken away the pressure to make a move for roster purposes.

Another big would.still be nice, but if the can find another ORob, just sign him & move on.

If teams want more than Quick/ Gradey/ Ochai, then we may as well just stand pat.

We should zig when everyone is zagging. There will be a lot of buyers this year. If we can offload mamu for a frp we should seriously consider it. Not sure if we can resign him this offseason
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Post#362 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jan 18, 2026 6:43 pm

Ja with around 20/10 at half and a 20 point lead against Orlando. This is the type of talent that IQ dreams about having.

Go get him before his value goes up and we'd actually have to give up good assets for him.
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Post#363 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:21 pm

Morant and Landale play very well together. Hope if we do try to grab Morant Landale comes along with him.
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Post#364 » by Son Goku 25 » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:15 pm

I just don't know if he's a championship pg. Those are usually tough defenders who can make plays and make big shots when needed. Unless you're a Curry or Shai. Can't really think of a guard that won like that, maybe Tony Parker? He also played with the best pF of all time and a great overall team filled with leaders including himself.
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Post#365 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:24 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:I just don't know if he's a championship pg. Those are usually tough defenders who can make plays and make big shots when needed. Unless you're a Curry or Shai. Can't really think of a guard that won like that, maybe Tony Parker? He also played with the best pF of all time and a great overall team filled with leaders including himself.


The question isnt whether Ja can be a championship PG but does it improve the team from what we'd be giving up. Getting better is what this should be about. We arent going from a tanking team to a championship team overnight.
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Post#366 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:31 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:I just don't know if he's a championship pg. Those are usually tough defenders who can make plays and make big shots when needed. Unless you're a Curry or Shai. Can't really think of a guard that won like that, maybe Tony Parker? He also played with the best pF of all time and a great overall team filled with leaders including himself.


The question isnt whether Ja can be a championship but does it improve the team from what we'd be giving up. Getting better is what this should be about. We arent going from a tanking team to a championship team overnight.


Also have to think of it...Getting more talent while potentially giving up less talent means you are one step closer to a championship because lets say Morant starts balling out for us and Giannis or something becomes available....Its possible we look more attractive for a player like that to demand to come here and lets say the cost is Barnes....We would have a 2-3rd option in place already with Ingram/Morant....Not saying id trade Barnes for Giannis but thats just an example.

Makes us more attractive and gives us more options to play with.....IQ/Barrett/Yak would not be 3rd options on a title team they would just be role players.
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Post#367 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:32 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:I just don't know if he's a championship pg. Those are usually tough defenders who can make plays and make big shots when needed. Unless you're a Curry or Shai. Can't really think of a guard that won like that, maybe Tony Parker? He also played with the best pF of all time and a great overall team filled with leaders including himself.


The question isnt whether Ja can be a championship but does it improve the team from what we'd be giving up. Getting better is what this should be about. We arent going from a tanking team to a championship team overnight.


Also have to think of it...Getting more talent while potentially giving up less talent means you are one step closer to a championship because lets say Morant starts balling out for us and Giannis or something becomes available....Its possible we look more attractive for a player like that to demand to come here and lets say the cost is Barnes....We would have a 2-3rd option in place already with Ingram/Morant....Not saying id trade Barnes for Giannis but thats just an example.

Makes us more attractive and gives us more options.


Exactly... we can try the 2K approach to winning a championship by upgrading the roster one trade at a time lol
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Post#368 » by TheRaptor! » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:51 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Ja with around 20/10 at half and a 20 point lead against Orlando. This is the type of talent that IQ dreams about having.

Go get him before his value goes up and we'd actually have to give up good assets for him.


He ended up with like 25 points but its clear his impact is way beyond anything Quickley can ever provide

He was a 2 time all star in the WEST before injuries
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Post#369 » by TheRaptor! » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:53 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Morant and Landale play very well together. Hope if we do try to grab Morant Landale comes along with him.


Id trade Quick, Abgaji, Dick, and 26 and 27 FRP with protections for both of them

Solves our back up C issue too.
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Post#370 » by dballislife » Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:59 pm

poeltl and quickley with picks for jjj and morant

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Post#372 » by TheAlchemist23 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 3:13 am

Time to strike is now before his value is rehabilated
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Post#374 » by FOB » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:54 pm

The guy shoots 23% on his threes this season, and 30% over his career. So yeah, I guess if we want to double down on our roster construction he's exactly what we need. Plus we all know guards relying heavily on athleticism ususally age really well, just look at John Wall and Derrick Rose. Great locker room presence too, so what's not to like?

Quick Bobby, get him before the other GMs realize what a steal this is!
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Post#375 » by Clutch0z24 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:12 pm

FOB wrote:The guy shoots 23% on his threes this season, and 30% over his career. So yeah, I guess if we want to double down on our roster construction he's exactly what we need. Plus we all know guards relying heavily on athleticism ususally age really well, just look at John Wall and Derrick Rose. Great locker room presence too, so what's not to like?

Quick Bobby, get him before the other GMs realize what a steal this is!


What are we giving up to get him is the thing here ....If its a buy low and the players being exchanged is IQ/Filler/1 draft pick....

Whats the PGs job? Running the team, Distrubiting and being a playmaker. Who is better at that IQ or Morant?

What we should do if we land Morant is try and get better shooters on the wings/bench....Sure Quickley can shoot better but Morant is better than IQ at mostly everything else....Id rather have a PG that creates easy shots for everyone and gets by defenders to create openings than a PG who can shoot (But IQ is also very very streaky at that) and can't do anything else to help his teammates get easier looks...

Marant is just a talent upgrade for the team Bobby would still have his work to do and continue to build the team around that group but talent wins in the NBA at the end of the day and Morant is much more talented than IQ is.
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Post#376 » by FOB » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:26 pm

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FOB wrote:The guy shoots 23% on his threes this season, and 30% over his career. So yeah, I guess if we want to double down on our roster construction he's exactly what we need. Plus we all know guards relying heavily on athleticism ususally age really well, just look at John Wall and Derrick Rose. Great locker room presence too, so what's not to like?

Quick Bobby, get him before the other GMs realize what a steal this is!


What are we giving up to get him is the thing here ....If its a buy low and the players being exchanged is IQ/Filler/1 draft pick....

Whats the PGs job? Running the team, Distrubiting and being a playmaker. Who is better at that IQ or Morant?

What we should do if we land Morant is try and get better shooters on the wings/bench....Sure Quickley can shoot better but Morant is better than IQ at mostly everything else....Id rather have a PG that creates easy shots for everyone and gets by defenders to create openings than a PG who can shoot (But IQ is also very very streaky at that) and can't do anything else to help his teammates get easier looks...

Marant is just a talent upgrade for the team Bobby would still have his work to do and continue to build the team around that group but talent wins in the NBA at the end of the day and Morant is much more talented than IQ is.


I hear you, I just think if some of our main pieces going forward are Barnes, BI and CMB it'll be tough to construct a winning roster if our PG is essentially a non-shooter. I'm not saying we should keep Quick as the PG long term, I just don't think Morant is the answer, especially with two more years at 42 and 45 mil per year. There's got to be a better option.
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Post#377 » by aj174 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:28 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:I just don't know if he's a championship pg. Those are usually tough defenders who can make plays and make big shots when needed. Unless you're a Curry or Shai. Can't really think of a guard that won like that, maybe Tony Parker? He also played with the best pF of all time and a great overall team filled with leaders including himself.


The question isnt whether Ja can be a championship PG but does it improve the team from what we'd be giving up. Getting better is what this should be about. We arent going from a tanking team to a championship team overnight.

Agree with you fully, gotta have JV before you get gasol

Morant is a pure talent upgrade and is the exact type of trade we need to make ASAP. Give up quick and a couple picks, Morant is a high talent player who won't come here in FA
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Post#379 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:45 pm

You don't just pass on a high-end talent at a low price because he can't shoot threes. You get the high-end talent and then look to add three-point shooters around him.
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Post#380 » by Clutch0z24 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:47 pm

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FOB wrote:The guy shoots 23% on his threes this season, and 30% over his career. So yeah, I guess if we want to double down on our roster construction he's exactly what we need. Plus we all know guards relying heavily on athleticism ususally age really well, just look at John Wall and Derrick Rose. Great locker room presence too, so what's not to like?

Quick Bobby, get him before the other GMs realize what a steal this is!


What are we giving up to get him is the thing here ....If its a buy low and the players being exchanged is IQ/Filler/1 draft pick....

Whats the PGs job? Running the team, Distrubiting and being a playmaker. Who is better at that IQ or Morant?

What we should do if we land Morant is try and get better shooters on the wings/bench....Sure Quickley can shoot better but Morant is better than IQ at mostly everything else....Id rather have a PG that creates easy shots for everyone and gets by defenders to create openings than a PG who can shoot (But IQ is also very very streaky at that) and can't do anything else to help his teammates get easier looks...

Marant is just a talent upgrade for the team Bobby would still have his work to do and continue to build the team around that group but talent wins in the NBA at the end of the day and Morant is much more talented than IQ is.


I hear you, I just think if some of our main pieces going forward are Barnes, BI and CMB it'll be tough to construct a winning roster if our PG is essentially a non-shooter. I'm not saying we should keep Quick as the PG long term, I just don't think Morant is the answer, especially with two more years at 42 and 45 mil per year. There's got to be a better option.


Not many options on the market when you are looking at Starting level PGs......

Ball-Not on the trade market as there is no legit rumors saying he is
Garland-Also not in any trade rumors, I think Cavs want to keep their team as is
Monk-Not much of an upgrade
Morant

Rest of the PGs are locked up on their teams and not on the trade block.....So if you are looking for an upgrade on Quickley i think on the market for PGS Morant is the best one you can get atm.
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