PG: Raptors lose against the zone and get blown out

[AreBe]

This team is going to get obliterated in a playoff setting lol. We have 0 answers against the zone and playing in the halfcourt when they take away our transition game.

We just have too many limited shooters and our 2 best players aren’t able to generate enough rim pressure with the ball in their hands.

Wonder what Bobby is going to do for this deadline and off season, he’s got a lot of work to do.

Pray he does the right thing- NOTHING!

No trading IQ, Dick, and picks for a geezer.
No trading Barret. Poeltl and picks for a geezer.
No trading Scottie Barnes and picks for a geezer.
No trading picks for a geezer.
The Raptors are first-round cannon fodder, and fixing that costs us our future for no good reason.

The very least they CAN and SHOULD do is have their analytics team up and running and be extremely well prepared for the daft and- THE DRAFT STRATEGY should be :
1, PICK THE BEST AVAILABLE PLYER ALWAYS AND WITHOUT QUESTION, EVEN IF IT IS STUPID, BECAUSE DRAFTING THE BEST AVAILABLE PLAYER IS NEVER STUPID
2, if a highly rated player suddenly falls to your spot - you take him!
3. KEEP YOUR Picks - we are not good enough to part with picks!

That is to say:
1, We are first-round cannon fodder.
2, the cure, trading kids and picks for a geezer so we can win a round, maybe, is worse than the disease;
3, You see the crying after every loss on this page? We are more than a player away;.
4 Nobody wants our garbage- If anyone thinks Dick and IQ can be traded for something, I suggest they take up heavy drinking.

[MEDIC]

Who would we play if we benched Ochai and Dick? Do we believe Lawson and Martin would be better? Or do we play Mamu with the starters and give up any semblance of a big off the bench? Or if we start IQ and Shead together that makes our backcourt tiny. With the injuries and the roster we have we’re kind of stuck right now.

I would start playing Lawson/ Battle/ Martin over those two. Even for the sake of development & team chemistry.

Those two have been given a ton of opportunity & nothing is changing.

I hope they are both moved at the deadline so Darko can't play them anymore.

[MEDIC]

This team is going to get obliterated in a playoff setting lol. We have 0 answers against the zone and playing in the halfcourt when they take away our transition game.

We just have too many limited shooters and our 2 best players aren’t able to generate enough rim pressure with the ball in their hands.

Wonder what Bobby is going to do for this deadline and off season, he’s got a lot of work to do.

We are at 120.6 ORTG in 23 games with RJ and 108.3 ORTG in 21 games without him.

We are the 3rd best offensive in the league with him and 2nd worst offensive team without him.

The sample size continues to grow with this trend in tact, it really shouldn't be this drastic but the difference in not having him has been the same as the Nuggets not having Jokic lmao both team are around 11 ORTG worse in the games without each of them.

They better not trade him for tax purposes. I'll be done.

Only way I would.trade him is if we were getting a healthy star player in his prime.

[MEDIC]

Since Nov 15 3PT%

Walter 38%
Ingram 38%
Barrett 38%
Quickley 33%
Mamu 33%
Shead 28%
Battle 27%
Dick 26%
Barnes 26%
CMB 24%
Abgaji 24%

It's been rough.

Wow. Not having Barrett & Walter is killing us right now.

The Quick Dick duo has been a disaster from a drafting & FA signing perspective.

[Dennis 37]

I blame the mods for this one. They still got last games PG stickied and didn't even bother with the GT today lol

This is why I wasn't even sure yesterday was Sunday. I said to myself, If today was Sunday the game thread would be at the top of the page. I figured the game wasn't until the next day and missed the first quarter.

We old people need some help once in a while.

As for the game, we are lucky we only lost one to injury. It was almost as if they were intentionally trying to injure our players. The refs didn't give a **** either. I'm not going to criticize performance when that's the atmosphere they had to play in.

[Dennis 37]

Who would we play if we benched Ochai and Dick? Do we believe Lawson and Martin would be better? Or do we play Mamu with the starters and give up any semblance of a big off the bench? Or if we start IQ and Shead together that makes our backcourt tiny. With the injuries and the roster we have we’re kind of stuck right now.

I would start playing Lawson/ Battle/ Martin over those two. Even for the sake of development & team chemistry.

Those two have been given a ton of opportunity & nothing is changing.

I hope they are both moved at the deadline so Darko can't play them anymore.

Watched the movie Moneyball again this week. The manager kept playing Peña at first while the general manager wanted Hattenburg out there for analytic reasons. Fed up with seeing Peña in the starting lineup, the GM traded him to Detroit.

[TGM]

Anyone bitching about the team losing with the injuries and that reffing... just gtfo.

Never thought I would say this but we got some pretty good calls. Normally when we play the Lakers we get the bad calls. CMB has some questionable blocks that could have been called good tending.

Mamu had a few hard falls today, but when looking back don’t think they were flagrant he just takes off too far away for his layups.

[Brinbe]

bad shooting hurts them again, no need to overcomplicate it. rj returning will help but we'll miss CMB's defense and rebounding

every team deals with injures and that's just a part of the random luck of things.

Bobby does need to freshen things up though. his first real test without masai

[Pointgod]

What the hell happened with Ochai. I was never high on him but thought he could at least turn into a solid 3 and D starter. But every time I watch him he’s just so underwhelming.

[PushDaRock]

What the hell happened with Ochai. I was never high on him but thought he could at least turn into a solid 3 and D starter. But every time I watch him he’s just so underwhelming.

When he first got here, he shot 22% over 27 games on basically identical volume.

He's also shooting over half his 3's from the corner where he is career 40% and is making them at 23% this year.

The sample size is still so small that we don't really have any definitive reasons for why he's bricking like this.

[TheRaptor!]

Who would we play if we benched Ochai and Dick? Do we believe Lawson and Martin would be better? Or do we play Mamu with the starters and give up any semblance of a big off the bench? Or if we start IQ and Shead together that makes our backcourt tiny. With the injuries and the roster we have we’re kind of stuck right now.

I would start playing Lawson/ Battle/ Martin over those two. Even for the sake of development & team chemistry.

Those two have been given a ton of opportunity & nothing is changing.

I hope they are both moved at the deadline so Darko can't play them anymore.

We'll be a WAY better team in 18 days.

Dick needs to play to keep the trade value up, the team will be way better with politics out of the way in the form of Gradey and Ochai

[Tripod]

In his last 17 games our best shooter, IQ, is shooting 29.7% from 3....and only 4 times in those games hit 40% or more.

He isn't doing what his strength is supposed to be.

[hyper316]

Luka is by far the whiniest NBA superstar in history.

[ItsDanger]

If you're not using various bench players with injuries occurring, it usually means they're not good enough. However, in this case, there is also clear redundancy. Got to have a C or a 6'10 PF/C available. Team is wasting roster spots.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Agbaji/Dick: 37min, 0pts

nice boys nice

keep playing them, coach, no matter what!

I remember when we "stole" Agbaji from Danny Ainge, and it was a confirmation that Ainge was washed.

[dandaman]

Agbaji/Dick: 37min, 0pts

nice boys nice

keep playing them, coach, no matter what!

I remember when we "stole" Agbaji from Danny Ainge, and it was a confirmation that Ainge was washed.

What takes danny a season to figure out takes masai and Bobby about 4

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Since Nov 15 3PT%

Walter 38%
Ingram 38%
Barrett 38%
Quickley 33%
Mamu 33%
Shead 28%
Battle 27%
Dick 26%
Barnes 26%
CMB 24%
Abgaji 24%

It's been rough.

Wow. Not having Barrett & Walter is killing us right now.

The Quick Dick duo has been a disaster from a drafting & FA signing perspective.

I'm thinking Dick is getting pretty underrated. He's averaging more steals than turnovers by a decent margin and his True Shooting isn't terrible despite struggling from three. Career he's been a 35% three point shooter, and I'm sure teams would expect better than that going forward. Higher plus minus that Scottie Barnes which seems flukey but the team has played well with him out there, particularly early in the season, and might indicate more value than people perceive.

Also people think that three point shooting value is in the spacing, if teams are guarding Gradey like an elite shooter he is providing that value regardless if the shots go in...if the start leaving him open more, watch his volume and %s go up. Quick Dick is clever reminds one of a Seth Rogan summer comedy, take that as a compliment or perhaps not.

[Tripod]

If you're not using various bench players with injuries occurring, it usually means they're not good enough. However, in this case, there is also clear redundancy. Got to have a C or a 6'10 PF/C available. Team is wasting roster spots.

The frustrating thing is that it was always obvious.

We have 17 guys on the roster and 10 of those guys are guards. And only 2 are shooting over 35% from 3. Small AND can't shoot. Great combo.

And common sense would see that Yak was never going to play 82 games so they accepted being undersized in Yak's absence. And that's just dumb. Having a better balanced roster allows you to deal with injuries and slumps in a better way.

Options Bobby, options.

[tsherkin]

I'm thinking Dick is getting pretty underrated. He's averaging more steals than turnovers by a decent margin and his True Shooting isn't terrible despite struggling from three.

Pardon?

He's 4.1% below league average. That's horrific.

He's had a strong January so far, for sure, but his efficiency has been exceptionally poor this season.

When Toronto wins, of course, he's posting 62.5% TS (25 G), and when we lose 40.5%. He obviously makes an impact when he shoots well, though at 8.0 ppg in wins, that means only SO much right now.

[LoveMyRaps]

Agbaji/Dick: 37min, 0pts

nice boys nice

keep playing them, coach, no matter what!

I remember when we "stole" Agbaji from Danny Ainge, and it was a confirmation that Ainge was washed.

What takes danny a season to figure out takes masai and Bobby about 4

Right...

Keep hyping up the guy that has had zero success in his '08 title win with the Celtics.