Should Poeltl start over CMB when he returns?

[CPT]

I don’t particularly want to see Barnes/CMB/Poeltl on the floor together for any significant amount of time, so scrap the idea of them both starting.

I’d probably go matchup dependent, but if I had to call one the “starter,” I’d let it be Poeltl until CMB shows he’s just straight up better than healthy Poeltl (he’s more or less convinced me already).

I feel like not losing your job to injury might be one of those old school things that may no longer make sense, but for now, I think players would still respect that principle. CMB doesn’t seem like the type to lose confidence or get bent out of shape by being sent to the bench when the veteran starter returns from injury. To be fair, Poeltl would probably be fine with the decision as well.

It will be a good problem to have if/when Poeltl comes back at full strength.

[Appostis]

I don’t particularly want to see Barnes/CMB/Poeltl on the floor together for any significant amount of time, so scrap the idea of them both starting.

I’d probably go matchup dependent, but if I had to call one the “starter,” I’d let it be Poeltl until CMB shows he’s just straight up better than healthy Poeltl (he’s more or less convinced me already).

I feel like not losing your job to injury might be one of those old school things that may no longer make sense, but for now, I think players would still respect that principle. CMB doesn’t seem like the type to lose confidence or get bent out of shape by being sent to the bench when the veteran starter returns from injury. To be fair, Poeltl would probably be fine with the decision as well.

It will be a good problem to have if/when Poeltl comes back at full strength.

If Barnes and CMBs 3point shooting holds, you'd have a lineup with 4 players with over 30% 3point shooting..

[CPT]

I don’t particularly want to see Barnes/CMB/Poeltl on the floor together for any significant amount of time, so scrap the idea of them both starting.

I’d probably go matchup dependent, but if I had to call one the “starter,” I’d let it be Poeltl until CMB shows he’s just straight up better than healthy Poeltl (he’s more or less convinced me already).

I feel like not losing your job to injury might be one of those old school things that may no longer make sense, but for now, I think players would still respect that principle. CMB doesn’t seem like the type to lose confidence or get bent out of shape by being sent to the bench when the veteran starter returns from injury. To be fair, Poeltl would probably be fine with the decision as well.

It will be a good problem to have if/when Poeltl comes back at full strength.

If Barnes and CMBs 3point shooting holds, you'd have a lineup with 4 players with over 30% 3point shooting..

Is that supposed to be good?

[Appostis]

I don’t particularly want to see Barnes/CMB/Poeltl on the floor together for any significant amount of time, so scrap the idea of them both starting.

I’d probably go matchup dependent, but if I had to call one the “starter,” I’d let it be Poeltl until CMB shows he’s just straight up better than healthy Poeltl (he’s more or less convinced me already).

I feel like not losing your job to injury might be one of those old school things that may no longer make sense, but for now, I think players would still respect that principle. CMB doesn’t seem like the type to lose confidence or get bent out of shape by being sent to the bench when the veteran starter returns from injury. To be fair, Poeltl would probably be fine with the decision as well.

It will be a good problem to have if/when Poeltl comes back at full strength.

If Barnes and CMBs 3point shooting holds, you'd have a lineup with 4 players with over 30% 3point shooting..

Is that supposed to be good?

Considering the defense and size of the lineup.. it's not exactly bad.

[CPT]

If Barnes and CMBs 3point shooting holds, you'd have a lineup with 4 players with over 30% 3point shooting..

Is that supposed to be good?

Considering the defense and size of the lineup.. it's not exactly bad.

Over 33% maybe. 30% is bad. That’s not an efficient shot, and it’s not spacing the floor because those guys won’t be shooting them.

Without checking, I would imagine most teams are at this level or better. League average is 36%. Maybe some teams fall short because they have 1-2 guys who just don’t shoot at all, but 30% is such a low bar.

[Kingsway_fan]

Has there been any update on YAK???

[HumbleRen]

Is that supposed to be good?

Considering the defense and size of the lineup.. it's not exactly bad.

Over 33% maybe. 30% is bad. That’s not an efficient shot, and it’s not spacing the floor because those guys won’t be shooting them.

Without checking, I would imagine most teams are at this level or better. League average is 36%. Maybe some teams fall short because they have 1-2 guys who just don’t shoot at all, but 30% is such a low bar.

Percentage doesn’t matter. It’s all about spacing. Nobody would respect Scottie, Poeltl and CMB when it comes to spacing.

Scottie and CMB could shoot 40% from the 3 for 2 months straight and it wouldn’t change the abhorrent spacing that would provide with Poeltl at the 5.

It takes 2-3 seasons of high level shooting to change your perception around the league.

[RaptorLakerJay]

I get why Poeltl should start but CMB absolutely needs 30+ minutes a game without a question.

[CPT]

Considering the defense and size of the lineup.. it's not exactly bad.

Over 33% maybe. 30% is bad. That’s not an efficient shot, and it’s not spacing the floor because those guys won’t be shooting them.

Without checking, I would imagine most teams are at this level or better. League average is 36%. Maybe some teams fall short because they have 1-2 guys who just don’t shoot at all, but 30% is such a low bar.

Percentage doesn’t matter. It’s all about spacing. Nobody would respect Scottie, Poeltl and CMB when it comes to spacing.

Scottie and CMB could shoot 40% from the 3 for 2 months straight and it wouldn’t change the abhorrent spacing that would provide with Poeltl at the 5.

It takes 2-3 seasons of high level shooting to change your perception around the league.

This is also very true, I was just pointing out that having 4 guys over 30% isn’t some impressive accomplishment.

[ConSarnit]

Over 33% maybe. 30% is bad. That’s not an efficient shot, and it’s not spacing the floor because those guys won’t be shooting them.

Without checking, I would imagine most teams are at this level or better. League average is 36%. Maybe some teams fall short because they have 1-2 guys who just don’t shoot at all, but 30% is such a low bar.

Percentage doesn’t matter. It’s all about spacing. Nobody would respect Scottie, Poeltl and CMB when it comes to spacing.

Scottie and CMB could shoot 40% from the 3 for 2 months straight and it wouldn’t change the abhorrent spacing that would provide with Poeltl at the 5.

It takes 2-3 seasons of high level shooting to change your perception around the league.

This is also very true, I was just pointing out that having 4 guys over 30% isn’t some impressive accomplishment.

Barnes shooting has dropped off a cliff (again):

Pre Nov. 1 (6 games): 50% 3pt

Post Nov. 1 (38 games): 28% 3pt

CMB is taking 1.9 3pa per36. That's piddling volume, even for a big.

Poeltl obviously is who he is. Throw Shead into the mix and the shooting looks bad.

Shooting is our biggest issue right now (outside of injuries).

[YogurtProducer]

Shooting is our biggest issue right now (outside of injuries).

Yep. It will be a bit better once RJ is back as IQ/RJ/Ingram is a "fine" (not great) shooting 1 thru 3. Especially if IQ goes back to his 38ish% ways.

We really just need to get a 3 point gunner who teams actually fear off the bench. Battle is okay but the volume isnt there (his 3 point rate is somehow loser than Shead).

[Rainman66]

Start Poetl and trade for expiring Zach Collins, re-sign Mamu in offseason for mle $ or more, draft C in first round.

[Johnny Bball]

Give the minutes to CMB. If he can't handle certain bigs, bring in Yak early, And pairing him with Shead makes more sense for Poeltl

[HumbleRen]

Over 33% maybe. 30% is bad. That’s not an efficient shot, and it’s not spacing the floor because those guys won’t be shooting them.

Without checking, I would imagine most teams are at this level or better. League average is 36%. Maybe some teams fall short because they have 1-2 guys who just don’t shoot at all, but 30% is such a low bar.

Percentage doesn’t matter. It’s all about spacing. Nobody would respect Scottie, Poeltl and CMB when it comes to spacing.

Scottie and CMB could shoot 40% from the 3 for 2 months straight and it wouldn’t change the abhorrent spacing that would provide with Poeltl at the 5.

It takes 2-3 seasons of high level shooting to change your perception around the league.

This is also very true, I was just pointing out that having 4 guys over 30% isn’t some impressive accomplishment.

Nah I’m with you, my post was in support of your post.

[ConSarnit]

Shooting is our biggest issue right now (outside of injuries).

Yep. It will be a bit better once RJ is back as IQ/RJ/Ingram is a "fine" (not great) shooting 1 thru 3. Especially if IQ goes back to his 38ish% ways.

We really just need to get a 3 point gunner who teams actually fear off the bench. Battle is okay but the volume isnt there (his 3 point rate is somehow loser than Shead).

We really need someone who can do what Dick is supposed to do: movement shooting. We need someone who can actually cause confusion for the other team. If 4 of our 8 top rotation guys are bad shooters we need someone who is above and beyond to compensate. We don't have that guy.

[TheGeneral99]

I am going to say no given his age and back issues.

CMB fit very well with the starters, and Poeltl's steadiness and veteran skill/IQ will be very helpful for the bench.

[LoveMyRaps]

Start Poetl and trade for expiring Zach Collins, re-sign Mamu in offseason for mle $ or more, draft C in first round.

I like this. Easier said than done though.

Truthfully, our top priority this deadline should be to get rid of Poeltl's contract.

[Rainman66]

I like this. Easier said than done though.

Truthfully, our top priority this deadline should be to get rid of Poeltl's contract.

Right, its time to start, dump and save, Its a Poetl deadline sale!
(start Poetl, dump for expiring, save on a 12-15 mill deal for Mamu and have space to sign first rounder) ...sigh

[LoveMyRaps]

I like this. Easier said than done though.

Truthfully, our top priority this deadline should be to get rid of Poeltl's contract.

Right, its time to start, dump and save, Its a Poetl deadline sale!
(start Poetl, dump for expiring, save on a 12-15 mill deal for Mamu and have space to sign first rounder) ...sigh

There's a 5% chance we can trade Poeltl right now. There's gonna be a 0% chance we can trade him next season, once the extension kicks in and his cap hit becomes 28mil AAV.

[Rainman66]

There's a 5% chance we can trade Poeltl right now. There's gonna be a 0% chance we can trade him next season, once the extension kicks in and his cap hit becomes 28mil AAV.

talk about shooting yourself in your own foot. FO needs to find a way to get things done I guess, can't let Mamu walk for nothing.