PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show

[traps#10]

It was nice to see Battle.get 15 minutes. He has earned that at this point. He needs a consistent role.

Always thought he’s been pigeonholed to just be a shooter when he’s more than that imo. He’s should be playing more than Dick and Walter at this point.

[WuTang_CMB]

It was nice to see Battle.get 15 minutes. He has earned that at this point. He needs a consistent role.

Always thought he’s been pigeonholed to just be a shooter when he’s more of that imo. He’s should be playing more than Dick and Walter at this point.

always liked Battle on the simpsons too

[traps#10]

It was nice to see Battle.get 15 minutes. He has earned that at this point. He needs a consistent role.

Always thought he’s been pigeonholed to just be a shooter when he’s more of that imo. He’s should be playing more than Dick and Walter at this point.

always liked Battle on the simpsons too

Just the threat of him standing in the corner spaces out the floor. And he fights hard for rebounds inside. Just needs to work on his speed and strength. His shot is so pure.

[traps#10]

Also Quickley is more of a free flowing guard, someone who thrives on just scoring which fuels his playmaking skills after he gets a few basket.

Shead is more of a structured, play calling guard.

[MEDIC]

Always thought he’s been pigeonholed to just be a shooter when he’s more of that imo. He’s should be playing more than Dick and Walter at this point.

always liked Battle on the simpsons too

Just the threat of him standing in the corner spaces out the floor. And he fights hard for rebounds inside. Just needs to work on his speed and strength. His shot is so pure.

He's got great size for a shooter. He was standing beside Scottie last night & they appeared to be the exact same height. Pre-draft measurements say he is actually a quarter inch taller than Scottie, so he is 6'8" + with shoes.

[traps#10]

always liked Battle on the simpsons too

Just the threat of him standing in the corner spaces out the floor. And he fights hard for rebounds inside. Just needs to work on his speed and strength. His shot is so pure.

He's got great size for a shooter. He was standing beside Scottie last night & they appeared to be the exact same height. Pre-draft measurements say he is actually a quarter inch taller than Scottie, so he is 6'8" + with shoes.

Battle is more of a ready-now player than Dick and Walter imo. I don’t know why Darko keeps giving more mins to those two than Battle if he wants to win.

[YogurtProducer]

Stats can be finicky man, especially in small samples, such as this one:

% of 3PM by IQ that were assisted:
WITH Shead - 83%
WITHOUT Shead - 85%

% of 2PM by IQ that were assisted:
WITH Shead - 41%
WITHOUT Shead - 45%

So doesn't this contradict your entire position? IQ actually creates for himself MORE when Shead is on the floor with him.

This doesn't contradict anything. I just provided you the increase of percentages and points when Shead plays with IQ - which you are still not accepting. You are also still not comprehending the endurance factor we have been mentioning a few times already and how another guard assists IQ on both ends which helps his legs. You may not get it, but it's a real thing.

Also he’s not considering the mental aspect of running the offense as the lead PG, calling out plays, etc. All of these are aspects not shown on paper and only players who played ball knows.

We are seriously going to come in here and use that the "mental aspect of calling out plays" is why IQ needs Shead out there?

oh man. This board sometimes

[bape_lovers]

Rather give a call to Ben Simmons.

Here's the numbers you need to understand.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

This supports what a lot of us have been saying about this team needing another PG that can run the team & get some.paint touches.

Quick is a 2 guard & excels in a 6th man role.

The Knicks were using him properly.

[MEDIC]

Rather give a call to Ben Simmons.

Here's the numbers you need to understand.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

This supports what a lot of us have been saying about this team needing another PG that can run the team & get some.paint touches.

Quick is a 2 guard & excels in a 6th man role.

The Knicks were using him properly.

Maybe Darko can get his head back on track with his fatherly coaching style.

[Morris_Shatford]

Rank these PGs from Best to Worst -

Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Immanuel Quickley, Oscar Robertson, Isiah Thomas

While making your best argument as to who should be second behind Quickley.

[traps#10]

Rather give a call to Ben Simmons.

This supports what a lot of us have been saying about this team needing another PG that can run the team & get some.paint touches.

Quick is a 2 guard & excels in a 6th man role.

The Knicks were using him properly.

Maybe Darko can get his head back on track with his fatherly coaching style.

Darko should just ease the pressure off Quickley’s shoulders more when running the Point or tell him to just focus on scoring freely while telling Scottie or someone else to run the offense.

[pingpongrac]

The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire.

[traps#10]

The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire.

Just pointing out that there’s a possibility that IQ is most effective when he doesn’t have to worry about running the offense and allows him to be an effective scorer. At the end of the day we all want the team to play at its best.

[TorontoBarneys]

Monster game from IQ. Talent is there, just gotta lock in consistently.

[YogurtProducer]

The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire.

Dont you understand? When IQ doesn't have to think about running the offence that means he shoots better! (ignore that IQ shot 2/8 and 2/10 from 3 in the other 2 games Shead started alongside IQ)

But honestly, IQ has started alongside Ochai and JKW and other guys who took over the main defensive assignment and he shot poor.

It is just much, much, much more likely that a historically good shooter had a bad first half of the season shooting the ball, and had a hot shooting night last night. Trying to read more than that into it is wild.

[Tor_Raps]

BI hasn't been great tbh.

He provides the 20+ points almost every game. The only thing I don't like in his game is sometimes he turns the ball over predictably.

He also provides 20+ points on meh efficiency.

We need his skill set, but he’s been far from great.

The argument wasnt whether hes been great, its whether him and Barnes have clearly been the 2 best players on the team. In no way has IQ been close to Ingram in terms of overall impact this season.

Just like Demar used to take slander, there are guys on the team required to do what they do. They are often given grenade type shots all throughout the game and especially when defenses get tight at the end of games where very few are able to get off their shots.

[hyper316]

Having Shead in the starters allowing IQ to play his natural combo guard role like in NYK is doing wonders

Yes and no… I agree quickley is better as a scorer than traditional pg. playing next to shead isn’t th reason he suddenly decided to make all the shots he’s been missing over the last stretch.

Dude hit open 3’s and created a lot of his own 2’s. The idea Shead “allows” IQ to do anything is insane lol

Not to mention, IQ had more assists than Shead did today to.

You don't think Shead guarding Steph using up energy on defensive end allows IQ to focus on offense has nothing to do with it?

[YogurtProducer]

He provides the 20+ points almost every game. The only thing I don't like in his game is sometimes he turns the ball over predictably.

He also provides 20+ points on meh efficiency.

We need his skill set, but he’s been far from great.

The argument was whether hes been great, its whether him and Barnes have clearly been the 2 best players on the team. In no way has IQ been close to Ingram in terms of overall impact this season.

Just like Demar used to take slander, there are guys on the team required to do what they do. They are often given grenade type shots all throughout the game and especially when defenses get tight at the end of games where very few are able to get off their shots.

Yeah but Demar also was proven to kind of not be all that valuable either. We benched him late in games in playoff series', traded him and won a ring, then lost the guys we traded him for, and still won 60+ games.

Ingram is very similar. He is fine. But he is not great.

I'd say there is a reasonable argument to be made that Ingram/Barnes/RJ/Quick have all been very close in impact this year (with Barnes obviously leading the pack). They all have such different strengths and weaknesses and actually compliment each other quite well. But Ingram is given a lot of grenade shots, but Ingram also takes a lot of unnecessary grenades (just like Demar did).

[YogurtProducer]

Yes and no… I agree quickley is better as a scorer than traditional pg. playing next to shead isn’t th reason he suddenly decided to make all the shots he’s been missing over the last stretch.

Dude hit open 3’s and created a lot of his own 2’s. The idea Shead “allows” IQ to do anything is insane lol

Not to mention, IQ had more assists than Shead did today to.

You don't think Shead guarding Steph using up energy on defensive end allows IQ to focus on offense has nothing to do with it?

I don't see how its fundamentally different than any other game that IQ is not guarding the main offensive threat.

[Dennis 37]

Raptors can play really well against teams not loaded with bigs. Playing against tall teams is still an issue that needs addressing.