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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#161 » by Dennis 37 » Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:54 pm

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pingpongrac wrote:The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire. :lol:


Just pointing out that there’s a possibility that IQ is most effective when he doesn’t have to worry about running the offense and allows him to be an effective scorer. At the end of the day we all want the team to play at its best.


I'm thinking the team as a whole plays better when the other team doesn't have huge bigs and great rim protection. Causes everyone to relax and they play better. So did IQ play better because he didn't have to run the offense, or did he play better because the whole team was more relaxed? Maybe some of one and some of the other.

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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#162 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:54 pm

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Syd-TK3 wrote:Trading Jak has now become more important than IQ


Only because RJ is hurt. Shead playing with IQ seems to help. So when Barrett comes back, then what. I hate to say it, but this is going to be a situation where Quick either continues his improved play without Shead, or it becomes a him or RJ situation at the deadline. And there's little time left to decide based on play.


Maybe have RJ and Scottie bring the ball up and initiate offense?


RJ likes being a 1 man fast break and doesnt have the skills required to be that guy.

Scottie's at his best when hes pushing the pace in transition but a half court PG, he is not. We've seen that fail for years for a reason lol.

IQ will have to be that guy and is being paid big money to do it. Darko just needs to create offensive sets where IQ can move off the ball. Its his job to maximize everyone's abilities.
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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#163 » by Prestige » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:12 pm

You have to absolutely use this to boost IQs trade value. He’s not a long term fit and we need to get off his contract. Hopefully someone will bite before the deadline.
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Post#164 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:12 pm

Are there those that don't think any of the issues with the league worst offence has at all to do with who's playing PG? I think i'm defending IQ by noting that we play him out of position and how he looks much better when taken off the ball - but you think that's not true and Quickley has been playing down for essentially half the season because that's just how he plays?

I don't think we'll see this performance every night, but I do think we'll get better overall production out of IQ freeing him up. If we're already seeing the best of IQ and this is just some random outlier, that's not an encouraging look.
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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#165 » by traps#10 » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:16 pm

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pingpongrac wrote:The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire. :lol:


Just pointing out that there’s a possibility that IQ is most effective when he doesn’t have to worry about running the offense and allows him to be an effective scorer. At the end of the day we all want the team to play at its best.


I'm thinking the team as a whole plays better when the other team doesn't have huge bigs and great rim protection. Causes everyone to relax and they play better. So did IQ play better because he didn't have to run the offense, or did he play better because the whole team was more relaxed? Maybe some of one and some of the other.

We need to trade for some size.


Yeah, definitely looks like the team plays better when the opposing team doesn’t have a big intimidating C as well.
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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#166 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:21 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:Are there those that don't think any of the issues with the league worst offence has at all to do with who's playing PG? I think i'm defending IQ by noting that we play him out of position and how he looks much better when taken off the ball - but you think that's not true and Quickley has been playing down for essentially half the season because that's just how he plays?

I don't think we'll see this performance every night, but I do think we'll get better overall production out of IQ freeing him up. If we're already seeing the best of IQ and this is just some random outlier, that's not an encouraging look.


Since the worst offense is Indiana, and Haliburton is hurt, they would probably say it has something to do with the point. Otherwise exaggerating to league worst is pointless rhetoric.
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Post#170 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:33 pm

causal_fan wrote:Seems like the Raptors offense is more successful when Shead is distributing the ball and as many posters have mentioned IQ is really an off ball guard. I would like to see more of Shead-IQ backcourt but where does that leave RJ whose attack the basket mode is also sorely needed - with RJ back soon will be interesting to see how Darko plays them and if anyone gets moved.


We need another PG, not a C.
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Post#171 » by WWSRD » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:35 pm

Sooooo....I missed the game. Saw the boxscore....What like what?!....I gotta see IQ go off.

Go to Raptors.com. Watch highlights:
https://www.nba.com/raptors/videos/raptors-at-warriors-game-highlights-january-20-2026

There is 1 highlight of IQ where he hits a shot and they say its his career high. That's it. The highlights shown weren't exactly spectacular either.

IQ is GONE. They already have a trade in place and are waiting for the deadline. If this was Barnes/Ingram, they would have pieced together a highlights package of all of his buckets.
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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#173 » by Madvillainy2004 » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:48 pm

pingpongrac wrote:The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire. :lol:


Most efficient 40 point game of all time (and had 10 assists I guess by accident since Shead was "running the offense") and its just back handed compliments. IQ gets so much flak for a team thats probably exceeding expectations considering the injuries. Its not even like his advanced stats/underlying metrics are bad either. Youd think he was playing like Malachi Flynn when he has a 1.9 EPM and 2nd on the team in VORP.
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Post#174 » by canada_dry » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:52 pm

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This supports what a lot of us have been saying about this team needing another PG that can run the team & get some.paint touches.

Quick is a 2 guard & excels in a 6th man role.

The Knicks were using him properly.

Where in that highlight clip can you confidently say it was a 2nd guard that caused IQ to have success? Cause it looks like a LOT of those shots were not involving Shead in any fashion.
Noone is saying shead is diming quick up for these 3s. You're misunderstanding the point.

The claim is that with shead on the floor, quick l doesn't have to worry about running the offense or guarding the point of attack, it allows him to play off ball on the wings etc catching and shooting(his first 6 makes) and attacking a shifted defense rather than trying to break a set defense down from the top of the break when he's running point. Its night and day difference. It just makes life easier for quick. Thats all. Any decent pg would its not exclusive to shead in all likelihood.

You're looking at it way too black and white.
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Post#175 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:52 pm

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theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:Are there those that don't think any of the issues with the league worst offence has at all to do with who's playing PG? I think i'm defending IQ by noting that we play him out of position and how he looks much better when taken off the ball - but you think that's not true and Quickley has been playing down for essentially half the season because that's just how he plays?

I don't think we'll see this performance every night, but I do think we'll get better overall production out of IQ freeing him up. If we're already seeing the best of IQ and this is just some random outlier, that's not an encouraging look.


Since the worst offense is Indiana, and Haliburton is hurt, they would probably say it has something to do with the point. Otherwise exaggerating to league worst is pointless rhetoric.



My bad I see today that we’re 23rd. Swap out worst for 23rd worst, same point.
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Post#176 » by TheGeneral99 » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:54 pm

The fact that we are 26-19 despite RJ and Poeltl missing half the season, as well as CMB and Walters missing 10+ games, tells me we are really good.

Just hope we can get healthy after the all-star break and make a strong push to the post-season.
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Post#177 » by RaptorLakerJay » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:55 pm

Raps need to find a way for Quick to continue playing off-ball, because I doubt Shead will start when RJ comes back.
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Re: PG: The Immanuel Quickley Show 

Post#178 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:57 pm

canada_dry wrote:Noone is saying shead is diming quick up for these 3s. You're misunderstanding the point.

The claim is that with shead on the floor, quick l doesn't have to worry about running the offense or guarding the point of attack, it allows him to play off ball on the wings etc catching and shooting(his first 6 makes) and attacking a shifted defense rather than trying to break the defense down from the top of the key when he's running point. Its night and day difference.

You're looking at it way too black and white.
And how is this any different than the rest of the year?

IQ is taking 4.8 catch and shoot 3's per game. He didn't take much more than that last night.

He also broke the defense down last night more than I remember seeing him do in a while. He straight up went ISO on Steph at one point and hit a step back bucket. He created himself a lot of FTs as well.

Not to mention, he ran a lot of point and got 10 assists on the night.

I truly think y'all are trying to see something that is not really there. He didn't fundamentally play a different game last night than he has all year - the difference is he just hit 7/8 3's. And none of these 3's were any different than the 3's he has taken all season long.
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Post#179 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:58 pm

WWSRD wrote:Sooooo....I missed the game. Saw the boxscore....What like what?!....I gotta see IQ go off.

Go to Raptors.com. Watch highlights:
https://www.nba.com/raptors/videos/raptors-at-warriors-game-highlights-january-20-2026

There is 1 highlight of IQ where he hits a shot and they say its his career high. That's it. The highlights shown weren't exactly spectacular either.

IQ is GONE. They already have a trade in place and are waiting for the deadline. If this was Barnes/Ingram, they would have pieced together a highlights package of all of his buckets.

like right here? :lol:
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Post#180 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jan 21, 2026 5:03 pm

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pingpongrac wrote:The hoops that some of y’all are jumping through to give Shead credit for IQ having an historical shooting night is wild. The only thing that Shead helped with last night was he took the assignment of defending Steph. Obviously that helps keep IQ fresh, but it’s no different than saying “IQ has less of an offensive burden when RJ (as well as Ingram and Scottie) are healthy. Just weird behaviour to always give credit to the role player off the bench instead of the guy that was on fire. :lol:


Most efficient 40 point game of all time (and had 10 assists I guess by accident since Shead was "running the offense") and its just back handed compliments. IQ gets so much flak for a team thats probably exceeding expectations considering the injuries. Its not even like his advanced stats/underlying metrics are bad either. Youd think he was playing like Malachi Flynn when he has a 1.9 EPM and 2nd on the team in VORP.

Yeah IQ has gotten way to much hate around here for absolutely no reason. His shooting woes are legit but as last night shows, this board focuses more on the #'s in the box score than anything else. You can throw all the evidence in the world they are out to lunch and they triple down.

We have gotten to the point where it is just buzzwords (He just runs the offence better!) with absolutely no basis or support.

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