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SWedd523 wrote:I know it's the right thing PR wise to say what the guys are saying, but the damage is already done so I really wish they'd frame it as "it was wrong BUT we did it in response to XYZ and we aren't going to be bullied" or whatever
SWedd523 wrote:and I also didn't say anything remotely close to implying that "acting like that might happen again" so I'd appreciate not conflating my statement.
SWedd523 wrote:Your last point, though, is what I'm trying to get at (from the other side). The reason Detroit and OKC get away with what they do is not because they border on groveling after some **** goes down. Go watch Bickerstaff's post game to see what I'm getting at. He didn't come out and say anything overtly wrong, but he framed it as if his guys did nothing wrong and it was all Charlotte's fault. We know that isn't the truth, but that's how they're framing it without necessarily justifying it
yosemiteben wrote:SWedd523 wrote:and I also didn't say anything remotely close to implying that "acting like that might happen again" so I'd appreciate not conflating my statement.
To be fair, you seem to have edited your own statement there and I think the way it read previously suggested that this is how we'll stand up to bullying. My bad if that wasn't your intent, very much could have been me misreading it.
SWedd523 wrote:Your last point, though, is what I'm trying to get at (from the other side). The reason Detroit and OKC get away with what they do is not because they border on groveling after some **** goes down. Go watch Bickerstaff's post game to see what I'm getting at. He didn't come out and say anything overtly wrong, but he framed it as if his guys did nothing wrong and it was all Charlotte's fault. We know that isn't the truth, but that's how they're framing it without necessarily justifying it
Who cares what he says in his press conference? I very highly doubt refs are even aware of it, and I extremely highly doubt they use whatever spin they here in a presser to supplant what they saw with their own eyes.
And let's be clear, they're talking about the fight. That's what we're talking about. It's not like if Lee said "We weren't at fault", that literally anyone that saw both Miles and Moussa trying to throw punches would take that seriously. It doesn't matter what triggered us, it looks like amateur hour to not be able to control ourselves and run around throwing punches.
fatlever wrote:basically propaganda 101
repeat the lies long enough eventually people think it's truth
SWedd523 wrote:I know it's the right thing PR wise to say what the guys are saying, but the damage is already done so I really wish they'd frame it as "it was wrong BUT we did it in response to XYZ and we aren't going to be bullied" or whatever
wilson115 wrote:Cody Zeller wasn't much of a shooter but was irreplaceable in the Kemba-led offense just from setting great screens and handling the ball on the perimeter reliably. (Or at least just long enough to hand it off to Kemba or a shooter.) Shouldn't be out of reach for Moose, right?
