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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#21 » by wolffy » Wed Feb 11, 2026 10:40 pm

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wolffy wrote:At shooting guard Watson is the guy you want. Offer him what it takes. If that falls thru I go back to the Portland pick and hope for a SG.

I haven't seen Watson play much, is he better than Ayo or is it a play on his youth and upside? I see he's 3 years younger and has improved each year in the league.

I'm all in on Watson. He had a Coby-like stint with Joker out. It is a big risk...could be an illusion, but it could be gold. Dude is 6'8 and seems to be able to shoot and defend. Offer $30M/yr and hope for a miracle.



Let's say theh can sign Watson and draft a good big. Maybe Cenac?

Giddey
Watson
Matas
Smith
Cenac (or other C)

Portland pick go PBA

I could potentially get excited about that
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#22 » by Primo Movement » Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:47 pm

Imagine having a 72M cap space and that you maybe catch two big targets , like to sign Watson (27M per), Duren (27M per), maybe Ivey (10M per) for backup SG role, draft Yaxel at #12, draft Bidunga at #33, rookies occupy last 7-8M..

Giddey, Watson, Buzelis, Yaxel, Duren
Jones, Ivey, Okoro, Smith, Bidunga


x - Dillingham, Williams, Essengue, Olbrich

This team would be very very good..

But I'm not sure if I see Watson really as SG, he is more forward and how he could guard opposite PG with our starting lineup?!

Plan B : maybe more realistic
Get Duren (28M per) , get Ayo (20M per) and sign vet wing Grimes (14M per)..

Giddey, Ayo, Buzelis, Yaxel, Duren
Jones, Okoro, Grimes, Smith, Bidunga

Also very good deep team with Dilly, PWill, Essengue on bench with 2x 2 way guys like Olbrich and Miller
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#23 » by Muzbar » Wed Feb 11, 2026 11:55 pm

The Bulls also (currently) have the Nuggets 55th pick in this upcoming draft.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#24 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:13 am

1. Go sign Sochan now could be a great long-term 3rd or 4th big role player for cheap
2. Draft BPA at let's say #10 to be safe - for these purposes i'll say a PF or C - lets just assume Lendeborg
3. Resign Ivey - my guess is somewhere between 15-20M - for these purposes lets put it right down the middle at a 3/50 w a 3rd year option
4. Assuming Blazers pick doesn't convey, our NOP pick in early 30's go - Isaiah Evans - floor spacer
5. At 55 take Alex Condon if he is there or go draft/stash
6. Search the FA pool for upside and some good locker room vets my goal would be Rim protection, floor spacing and defense potentially could be resigning Collins but seems way to injury prone, could resign either of Sexton/Simons for floor spacing but neither is a requirement


Giddey/Jones/FA
Ivey/Evans/Dilingham
Matas/Okoro/FA
Lendeborg/Sochan
Smith/FA/Condon

7. Likely finish 2026-27 in the bottom 5ish again, get a top 5 pick draft BPA and then role with the young core hopefully into a more Baby Bulls scenario
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#25 » by Rose2Boozer » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:37 am

Draft Cam Carr, Juke Harris, or Brayden Burries in the lottery.
Draft Tarris Reed Jr. in the second round.

Sign Mark Williams(15 million) or Mitchell Robinson(15 million)
Resign Collin Sexton(12 million) and Nick Richards(7 million)

Waive/Stretch Patrick Williams

Giddey
Carr, Harris, or Burries
Buzelis
Smith
Williams or Robinson

Jones
Sexton
Okoro
Essengue
Richards
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Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#26 » by drosEshe » Thu Feb 12, 2026 10:03 am

Giddey
Watson
Matas
Smith
Kessler

Tre
Ivey
Cam Carr(Rookie)(thru Portland Pick)
Noa
Hannes(rookie)

Pwill
Okoro
Rob
FA
FA


starting five is good defensively and tall


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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#27 » by wolffy » Thu Feb 12, 2026 11:58 am

WesPeace wrote:Imagine having a 72M cap space and that you maybe catch two big targets , like to sign Watson (27M per), Duren (27M per), maybe Ivey (10M per) for backup SG role, draft Yaxel at #12, draft Bidunga at #33, rookies occupy last 7-8M..

Giddey, Watson, Buzelis, Yaxel, Duren
Jones, Ivey, Okoro, Smith, Bidunga


x - Dillingham, Williams, Essengue, Olbrich

This team would be very very good..

But I'm not sure if I see Watson really as SG, he is more forward and how he could guard opposite PG with our starting lineup?!

Plan B : maybe more realistic
Get Duren (28M per) , get Ayo (20M per) and sign vet wing Grimes (14M per)..

Giddey, Ayo, Buzelis, Yaxel, Duren
Jones, Okoro, Grimes, Smith, Bidunga

Also very good deep team with Dilly, PWill, Essengue on bench with 2x 2 way guys like Olbrich and Miller


Either way Watson is going to be much better guarding PGs than Giddey is guarding SGs.

They're just going to have to accept that Giddey is going to get beat by whoever he defends.

Its the reason I say hes really a point forward because you basically have to play him with 2 guards to avoid defensive issues. Its easier for him to defend SF where hes not at as much of a speed disadvantage.

Thats causes Matas to PF tho. Ideally that's his long term spot but he's not strong enough yet.

Longterm I'd like
3&D pg
Watson
Giddey playing primary ball handler
Matas
Center draft, Kessler, Duren, maybe Hartenstein
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#28 » by wolffy » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:02 pm

drosEshe wrote:Giddey
Watson
Matas
Smith
Kessler

Tre
Ivey
Cam Carr(Rookie)(thru Portland Pick)
Noa
Hannes(rookie)

Pwill
Okoro
Rob
FA
FA


starting five is good defensively and tall


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I dont hate it but idk what sense the Jazz getting JJJ makes if they dont keep Kessler. Jackson doesn't want to play C. LM certainly isnt a center. That's very expensive front line tho
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#29 » by Primo Movement » Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:44 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:Draft Cam Carr, Juke Harris, or Brayden Burries in the lottery.
Draft Tarris Reed Jr. in the second round.

Sign Mark Williams(15 million) or Mitchell Robinson(15 million)
Resign Collin Sexton(12 million) and Nick Richards(7 million)

Waive/Stretch Patrick Williams

Giddey
Carr, Harris, or Burries
Buzelis
Smith
Williams or Robinson

Jones
Sexton
Okoro
Essengue
Richards

Thats very middling team again..
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#30 » by Red Larrivee » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:25 pm

ghostinthepost1 wrote:
Guru wrote:
Cap Space
I am having a hard time finding the best projection


If the Bulls renounce all cap holds they'll be $72 million under the cap.
If the Bulls renounce all cap holds except Ivey, they'll be $42 million under the cap.

However much Ivey signs for under $30 million, and hopefully he's getting paid way less than that, is added back to that $42 million number. So if Ivey signs for $10 million, the Bulls will have $62 million in cap space.


Small fix. Bulls would have about 65M when you include incomplete roster charges and the caphold for the 10th pick.

Renounce everyone: ~65M
Keep Ivey: ~36M

Number changes based on draft slot and if the Portland pick conveys. I think it's important to get a deal done with Ivey sooner rather than later so we can open up as much cap room as possible.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#31 » by dougthonus » Thu Feb 12, 2026 2:12 pm

ghostinthepost1 wrote:Renounce everyone (maybe keep Ivey on QO).
Use cap space to take on bad contracts for 1st round draft capital.
Draft well in 2026.
Let the rookies + Essengue + Matas + Dillingam get all the minutes they can handle next season.
Lose 60+ games in 2026/27.
Draft well in 2027.

After all of that you can start trying to win.


I think it's unlikely you will find 1st round draft capital available for bad contracts now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/tax/_/year/2026

There aren't a lot of teams in the tax and only a few that are deep in it. Will be interesting to see what OKC, Cleveland, and Orlando do. OKC has a massive tax bill and while they're absolutely a legit contender, they may not have the revenue to support it.

OKC is an interesting situation, but they won't pay to send anyone away, more or less everyone on their roster has positive contract value, and they can duck 28M of their projected 40M over by simply not picking up Hartenstein's option.

Cleveland is further away from a legit title window and will have to decide can they really make anything happen or is it time to start over. Depending on their playoffs and how close they get probably determines their actions, but they might be in blow it up territory if they have an early exit again, because keeping it together will just have them coming back weaker. Moving James Harden is probably the ultimate move to get them back under, but if they blow it up, then they'll probably look to trade Mitchell and everyone else and won't be looking to pay assets to get out from under the tax.

Orlando is in the toughest spot because they're really not all that good and now they're approaching big tax dollars. Their plan failed. Who knows what they do to get out of it, but it'd have to be Suggs/Bane. It'd be interesting to see if they would need to attach assets to those guys to move them. Especially after just giving up 4 1st rounders for Bane. I think they probably would. That would be an interesting spot for the Bulls if one of those guys became available _with_ assets, at the same time, my guess is they don't have many assets because they just gave up so much for Bane without looking.

Denver could consider moving Christian Braun or Cam Johnson, both have been hurt this year, but that would solve their tax problem. I'd imagine someone would pay positive assets for Cam Johnson, Braun probably requires a sweetener, but not a major one, like maybe a couple 2nds, maybe they can even find a spot for him without a sweetener.

I'm not sure if there is a team out there that's giving you a 1st rounder to improve their salary situation.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#32 » by ChettheJet » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:08 pm

MisterRoy wrote:With Lauri and now JJJ, can we out bid Utah on their RFA? If they accept all their team options, they have $140M committed.


I like that UT might not want to invest too heavily in some of their RFAs. The other thing is this would be a place for the Bulls to add a couple of their 12 future 2nd round picks for the Jazz' next rebuild.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#33 » by Guru » Thu Feb 12, 2026 3:54 pm

In another thread, I posted this as what I assume is a reasonable outlook

1-Don't extend the Qualifying offer to Ivey, but try to sign him back for under 10M
2-Draft Dash Daniels at the start of the second round, it's a deep Guard draft. Essentially, what I would want there is a defensive-oriented guard
3-Re-sign Yabusele to a similar deal that he is on now.
4-Re-sign Richards to a similar deal to what he is on now.
5-Draft Quaintance in round 1. He's the rarest of the bigs despite obvious fears around production/injury this year. His Stocks his freshman year were special.
6-Sign Hartenstein. He is coming of a 3yr 87 Million dollar deal, thats 29M a year. I assume he will want more. How much more would you go? Hes averaging just 10 pts but 9.7 rebounds per game
7-Sign Watson. He's the big fish and the most essential to me. An ascending player, with versatile defense averaging 14.9p, 41% from 3, 4.9rebounds, 2assists, 1.2blocks, 1 steal.



Hartenstein is someone I could switch away from to maybe a Mark Williams. Who might even be a better fit




1 Giddey 6'8 4 Jones 6'1 3 Dillingham 6'1 3
2 WATSON Ivey 6'3 1 DASH DANIELS
3 Buzelis 6'10 3 Okoro 6'5 2 Williams 6'8 4
4 Smith 6'9 2 Essengue 6'10 4 Yabusele 6'7 1
5 HARTENSTEIN Richards 6'11 1 QUAINTANCE
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#34 » by wolffy » Thu Feb 12, 2026 4:07 pm

dougthonus wrote:
ghostinthepost1 wrote:Renounce everyone (maybe keep Ivey on QO).
Use cap space to take on bad contracts for 1st round draft capital.
Draft well in 2026.
Let the rookies + Essengue + Matas + Dillingam get all the minutes they can handle next season.
Lose 60+ games in 2026/27.
Draft well in 2027.

After all of that you can start trying to win.


I think it's unlikely you will find 1st round draft capital available for bad contracts now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/tax/_/year/2026

There aren't a lot of teams in the tax and only a few that are deep in it. Will be interesting to see what OKC, Cleveland, and Orlando do. OKC has a massive tax bill and while they're absolutely a legit contender, they may not have the revenue to support it.

OKC is an interesting situation, but they won't pay to send anyone away, more or less everyone on their roster has positive contract value, and they can duck 28M of their projected 40M over by simply not picking up Hartenstein's option.

Cleveland is further away from a legit title window and will have to decide can they really make anything happen or is it time to start over. Depending on their playoffs and how close they get probably determines their actions, but they might be in blow it up territory if they have an early exit again, because keeping it together will just have them coming back weaker. Moving James Harden is probably the ultimate move to get them back under, but if they blow it up, then they'll probably look to trade Mitchell and everyone else and won't be looking to pay assets to get out from under the tax.

Orlando is in the toughest spot because they're really not all that good and now they're approaching big tax dollars. Their plan failed. Who knows what they do to get out of it, but it'd have to be Suggs/Bane. It'd be interesting to see if they would need to attach assets to those guys to move them. Especially after just giving up 4 1st rounders for Bane. I think they probably would. That would be an interesting spot for the Bulls if one of those guys became available _with_ assets, at the same time, my guess is they don't have many assets because they just gave up so much for Bane without looking.

Denver could consider moving Christian Braun or Cam Johnson, both have been hurt this year, but that would solve their tax problem. I'd imagine someone would pay positive assets for Cam Johnson, Braun probably requires a sweetener, but not a major one, like maybe a couple 2nds, maybe they can even find a spot for him without a sweetener.

I'm not sure if there is a team out there that's giving you a 1st rounder to improve their salary situation.



I know Bane is a good player and they expected to drafted late but that trade is brutal. Orlando is in trouble. Its pretty obvious that Banchero isnt good enough to strap that squad to his back. They need to get good value and make some really smart trades.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#35 » by Guru » Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:45 pm

Which players do we have bird rights to?

All of those people will be tradeable commodities correct?
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#36 » by League Circles » Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:46 pm

Sign LeBron and put the best team we can around him, Giddey and Matas.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#37 » by ghostinthepost1 » Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:48 pm

Guru wrote:Which players do we have bird rights to?


All of them except Yabu I think but none are worth keeping the cap hold for.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#38 » by Guru » Tue Feb 17, 2026 8:00 pm

ghostinthepost1 wrote:
Guru wrote:Which players do we have bird rights to?


All of them except Yabu I think but none are worth keeping the cap hold for.


Wouldnt keeping the cap hold allow us to trade them to another team and then have that team go over the cap?
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#39 » by jacoby1us » Tue Feb 17, 2026 8:10 pm

Typical Bulls leadership with zero direction in sight for their fan base.
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Re: Building the Bulls 2026-2027 Season 

Post#40 » by sco » Tue Feb 17, 2026 8:27 pm

Guru wrote:In another thread, I posted this as what I assume is a reasonable outlook

1-Don't extend the Qualifying offer to Ivey, but try to sign him back for under 10M
2-Draft Dash Daniels at the start of the second round, it's a deep Guard draft. Essentially, what I would want there is a defensive-oriented guard
3-Re-sign Yabusele to a similar deal that he is on now.
4-Re-sign Richards to a similar deal to what he is on now.
5-Draft Quaintance in round 1. He's the rarest of the bigs despite obvious fears around production/injury this year. His Stocks his freshman year were special.
6-Sign Hartenstein. He is coming of a 3yr 87 Million dollar deal, thats 29M a year. I assume he will want more. How much more would you go? Hes averaging just 10 pts but 9.7 rebounds per game
7-Sign Watson. He's the big fish and the most essential to me. An ascending player, with versatile defense averaging 14.9p, 41% from 3, 4.9rebounds, 2assists, 1.2blocks, 1 steal.



Hartenstein is someone I could switch away from to maybe a Mark Williams. Who might even be a better fit




1 Giddey 6'8 4 Jones 6'1 3 Dillingham 6'1 3
2 WATSON Ivey 6'3 1 DASH DANIELS
3 Buzelis 6'10 3 Okoro 6'5 2 Williams 6'8 4
4 Smith 6'9 2 Essengue 6'10 4 Yabusele 6'7 1
5 HARTENSTEIN Richards 6'11 1 QUAINTANCE


100%!

I wonder what it will take to get Denver to walk away from him (or stop them from making moves to free up space to keep him). I'm thinking the number is $35M/yr. What do others think?
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