Aday Mara (2005) - the spanish freak?
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I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
Even Portland didn't use Clingan on Wemby really - do you think Mara would be better than Clingan in that matchup?
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
I think the combo that is more important for Caruso is strength + speed / agility. That's how he can appear in front of Wemby, denying and taking the ball from him. Of course, length and height would make him better, but I think speed is more key in this matchup.
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BostoNZ wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
Even Portland didn't use Clingan on Wemby really - do you think Mara would be better than Clingan in that matchup?
We are past the point of any coherent examples matter to him. He is dying on the hill that he is right and promising he knows what teams are actually looking for.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
I dont think ayone disagrees with you that Strengh + Length are the best countuers to Wemby. Or specifically strength, and if you can get a guy who is 7'2 and just as strong as OG then obviously you want the 7'2 guy
I think where everyone disagrees with you is that Mara is not that guy that has this strength lmao. So yeah Strength + Length is the way, but what gives you the impression, that Mara with his notoroiosly long legs and high center of gravity, has the strength to hold off Wemby?? But agility and quickness are also important, otherwise Wemby will just blow past you and that's where Mara also lacks. So really as a Wemby counter he only offers length but is a net negative in the other two aspects that are important to guard Wemby
Nobody disagrees with the theory, its just the application to Mara that is wrong. He is not that player that fits the theoretical requirements of a Wemby stopper.
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I am probably betting on him to slip in the draft, all this smoke about him going 5 or 6 or even 8 all seem too high when you look at BPA strategy. I think he will go more like 11th at best.
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Of all the players for teams to blow smoke about.. why a random center that everyone except Far and I are down on.. that makes sense? Not Burries.. Brown.. Flemings etc.. Its just Mara and the top 4 guys
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Knicks almost exclusively guarded Wemby with KAT and Robinson two guys with size, strength and length. Imagine that. Sure, defenses collapses and helped and Wemby having tunnel vision didn't help his cause but I'm sure teams around the league were watching.
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peZt wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
I dont think ayone disagrees with you that Strengh + Length are the best countuers to Wemby. Or specifically strength, and if you can get a guy who is 7'2 and just as strong as OG then obviously you want the 7'2 guy
I think where everyone disagrees with you is that Mara is not that guy that has this strength lmao. So yeah Strength + Length is the way, but what gives you the impression, that Mara with his notoroiosly long legs and high center of gravity, has the strength to hold off Wemby?? But agility and quickness are also important, otherwise Wemby will just blow past you and that's where Mara also lacks. So really as a Wemby counter he only offers length but is a net negative in the other two aspects that are important to guard Wemby
Nobody disagrees with the theory, its just the application to Mara that is wrong. He is not that player that fits the theoretical requirements of a Wemby stopper.
Because weight is a huge component of strength and I'm not talking about Mara today but in 2-3 years provided he adds muscle and strength. Two years ago he was two years away from being two years away. He's still got a long ways to go but I'm guessing teams will see the potential I do and take a chance on him just like they took a chance on the very raw Maluach. It's better to have height, length and weight than not and if Mara can play minutes off the bench and help teams win games now all the better.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:peZt wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:I promise you, teams are looking for guys like Edey, Mara and Kessler to try and combat Wemby not 6'7" or smaller wings. The reason guys like Caruso and OG have some success is strength. But if you can get that strength AND height and length you'll take that every day. This is common sense. Bringing up Chet is stupid since he's 190 lbs and weak ffs.
I dont think ayone disagrees with you that Strengh + Length are the best countuers to Wemby. Or specifically strength, and if you can get a guy who is 7'2 and just as strong as OG then obviously you want the 7'2 guy
I think where everyone disagrees with you is that Mara is not that guy that has this strength lmao. So yeah Strength + Length is the way, but what gives you the impression, that Mara with his notoroiosly long legs and high center of gravity, has the strength to hold off Wemby?? But agility and quickness are also important, otherwise Wemby will just blow past you and that's where Mara also lacks. So really as a Wemby counter he only offers length but is a net negative in the other two aspects that are important to guard Wemby
Nobody disagrees with the theory, its just the application to Mara that is wrong. He is not that player that fits the theoretical requirements of a Wemby stopper.
Because weight is a huge component of strength and I'm not talking about Mara today but in 2-3 years provided he adds muscle and strength. Two years ago he was two years away from being two years away. He's still got a long ways to go but I'm guessing teams will see the potential I do and take a chance on him just like they took a chance on the very raw Maluach. It's better to have height, length and weight than not and if Mara can play minutes off the bench and help teams win games now all the better.
For his frame and age, 2-3 years isn't enough time. He will be need 4 to 5. He really needs 18 to 20 pounds on this frame and he needs that to be muscle and not limiting as he's already not explosive or athletic. He can't put on Shawn Bradley fat or he's going to be known for his work at Barca or replacing Tavares at Real Madrid than anything else.
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I don't see how people expect him to work in the NBA where you have to run more and bang with stronger players. His stamina bar only allowed him to play 23 min per game in college. He could be limited to being a 10 min per game situational player, and he will get hunted on defense.
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Bradley is probably the most adept comparison from a physical build IMO. High and wide hips stand out for them both.
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Upperclass wrote:The perfect fit next to Chet if the Clips don’t get him first
Yup


