NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 6

[Kanyewest]

The Knicks didn't play well and they deserved to lose, regardless of the free throw discrepancy.

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Multiple things can be true. Refs were terrible in not calling a flagrant foul on Wemby and there was also a foul on Keldon Johnson on the same play that was not called. They didn't call a flagrant foul on Castle when he launched Brunson into the floor. Refs also stopped the play and didn't call a tech on the Spurs when they had 6 players in the game.

Still the Knicks missed 11 3s in a row and can also need to look at themselves in the mirror. Not to mention Landry Shamet trying that layup on Wemby.

[montestewart]

The Knicks didn't play well and they deserved to lose, regardless of the free throw discrepancy.

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Multiple things can be true. Refs were terrible in not calling a flagrant foul on Wemby and there was also a foul on Keldon Johnson on the same play that was not called. They didn't call a flagrant foul on Castle when he launched Brunson into the floor. Refs also stopped the play and didn't call a tech on the Spurs when they had 6 players in the game.

Still the Knicks missed 11 3s in a row and can also need to look at themselves in the mirror. Not to mention Landry Shamet trying that layup on Wemby.

Knicks got the worst of calls, but they're not angels, nor should they be. Two really tough teams, might go to seven games, hopefully all as exciting as the first three.

[Kanyewest]

The Knicks didn't play well and they deserved to lose, regardless of the free throw discrepancy.

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Multiple things can be true. Refs were terrible in not calling a flagrant foul on Wemby and there was also a foul on Keldon Johnson on the same play that was not called. They didn't call a flagrant foul on Castle when he launched Brunson into the floor. Refs also stopped the play and didn't call a tech on the Spurs when they had 6 players in the game.

Still the Knicks missed 11 3s in a row and can also need to look at themselves in the mirror. Not to mention Landry Shamet trying that layup on Wemby.

Knicks got the worst of calls, but they're not angels, nor should they be. Two really tough teams, might go to seven games, hopefully all as exciting as the first three.

Yeah would need to rewatch but it feels like the Spurs got the benefit of the calls in a close game. It happens. Brunson flopped- Kat used his off arm. But the Knicks committing fouls and being in the penalty with 9:48 to go in the quarter played a role but the Knicks may have to blame themselves with those fouls. Still, Wemby should have gotten a flagrant on the play with Brunson which could have altered the game- but even then the Knicks could have played better. Might have also been karma for how some of their fans were acting outside the arena.

[montestewart]

Multiple things can be true. Refs were terrible in not calling a flagrant foul on Wemby and there was also a foul on Keldon Johnson on the same play that was not called. They didn't call a flagrant foul on Castle when he launched Brunson into the floor. Refs also stopped the play and didn't call a tech on the Spurs when they had 6 players in the game.

Still the Knicks missed 11 3s in a row and can also need to look at themselves in the mirror. Not to mention Landry Shamet trying that layup on Wemby.

Knicks got the worst of calls, but they're not angels, nor should they be. Two really tough teams, might go to seven games, hopefully all as exciting as the first three.

Yeah would need to rewatch but it feels like the Spurs got the benefit of the calls in a close game. It happens. Brunson flopped- Kat used his off arm. But the Knicks committing fouls and being in the penalty with 9:48 to go in the quarter played a role but the Knicks may have to blame themselves with those fouls. Still, Wemby should have gotten a flagrant on the play with Brunson which could have altered the game- but even then the Knicks could have played better. Might have also been karma for how some of their fans were acting outside the arena.

I remember reading some study, probably linked on this board, regarding statistically, significant officiating biases that emerged from analysis of a huge set of officiating calls. If I’m remembering correctly., the biases that they found favored the home team, the team that was behind in a game, and the team that was behind in a series. If that’s the case and holds true for this series, the Spurs have probably been the beneficiaries of a lot of favorable calls this series, even discounting any conspiracy theories.

[montestewart]

Spurs, Knicks, and Thunder are making me recall McHale-era Celtics, Bad Boy Pistons, and Oakley-era Knicks. A lot of people didn't like that style of play, and I'm not advocating hurting other players, but I like watching tough basketball. At 6'2", Brunson routinely encounters pretty brutal contact from much bigger opponents and keeps on going. Tough player.

[nate33]

Spurs, Knicks, and Thunder are making me recall McHale-era Celtics, Bad Boy Pistons, and Oakley-era Knicks. A lot of people didn't like that style of play, and I'm not advocating hurting other players, but I like watching tough basketball. At 6'2", Brunson routinely encounters pretty brutal contact from much bigger opponents and keeps on going. Tough player.

The thing that drives me crazy is the way that Castle and Dort in particular just hold guys constantly and they never call it. KAT has been doing that a lot with Wemby too. They do it every play and eventually I guess the refs just get used to it.

But heck, if it works, we need to start doing it too.

[doclinkin]

Yep. I've said the overrreaction to 'chuck it and fxck it' small ball will likely be a swing to size and interior scoring. Likewise a predicted correction to/prejudice against flopping. If your team does not have a bruising enforcer type who can score down low or score through contact then you will struggle in the post season.

This to me is the loudest argument for AJD as a pick in that he draws fouls in a way that is easy for Refs to call. However he also shies away from playing tough bumping defense in traffic, even if all the tools are there. He needs a vet to call him on it and bully him into becoming a bully himself. This was one reason I don't hate the Butler for AD conversations, even though Butler has trashed teams of rookies who are struggling with the learning curve, or guys who used to play soft like KAT. Butler will shame you into playing hard. We have a few guys n the roster who I think would take well to the tough love approach.

[Benjammin]

There have definitely been some clearly missed calls by the refs so far against the Knicks.

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[9 and 20]

What's the record for number of missed goaltending calls by referees in a finals? Seems like that record is going down, if it hasn't already.

Towns with 2 fouls 16 seconds into the game, Spurs shooting 97% from 3, refs showing their preference early - going to be tough for the Knicks if it continues like this.

[9 and 20]

Spike Lee and Ben Stiller about to storm the damn court and punch the refs in the chest. What is this with every call or missed call going the way of the Spurs. I want to see Taylor Swift clothesline someone!

[closg00]

The Spurs solved the Knicks real quick. I guess I gotta hope for OKC to bounce-back next-year to make things interesting, otherwise people are not going to watch the Spurs steamroll in every finals appearance.

[Benjammin]

I don't care how bad the officiating has been, giving up 76 in a half of an NBA finals game is an abomination.

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[Benjammin]

Crazy, crazy game.

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[TheBlackCzar]

Mitch Johnson was horrible in the 4th.... You let a 20 point lead shrink to 4 before you think calling timeout was smart?

Like WTF is going on.....
Situational awareness was 0 in the 4th from SAS bench.....
WOW just smdh at that mess......

[AFM]

One of the best games I've ever watched.

[nuposse04]

I'm not sure what Johnson was doing. Your job security should be in question after a collapse like that in a stage like this.

Its like they opted to play prevent offense the entire 2nd half.

[doclinkin]

Hell of a game that was fun.

[dobrojim]

Spurs are getting swept. They finally play like a dumb young team… in the NBA Finals.

Wemby is a baby deer on offense. Too many jumpers.

Fox played much better.

Congrats to the Knicks though. They’re unbeatable this postseason.

One loss in the 1st round is doing well for sure. It's up there with 4-4-4 (Moses' 6ers) (who lost 1 post season game to the Bucks)
Should also mention how loaded those 6ers were. Doc, Bobby Jones, Cheeks and Toney. And TSW's bro Caldwell IIRC.

It's remarkable that so often when they (Knicks) seem poised to lose, they still win.

Sorry to quote myself

I will admit that I txted my son at halftime and said SAN was going to win out in the series from there.

[dobrojim]

The Spurs solved the Knicks real quick. I guess I gotta hope for OKC to bounce-back next-year to make things interesting, otherwise people are not going to watch the Spurs steamroll in every finals appearance.

That's exactly the way I put it to my son @ halftime, the Spurs had solved the Knicks. Talk about jumping to conclusions.

[dobrojim]

I like Brunson's interview. Brutally honest and humble.

Believe.