Best Giannis Offer as of 6/12/2026?

[JMAC3]

That POR deal is really bad.

Well Portland is trading for Jaylen Brown, not Giannis. So they are probably not giving up more than that.

Who do you think it is bad for? The Bucks?

They get control of three picks that are likely going to be top 10 picks. They get Scoot, who has at least shown he is worth a decent 2nd contract. Yang is a wildcard but would have plenty of minutes to develop in Milwaukee. Plus Hugo and 2 more picks.

That is 3 firsts, 2 swaps, Scoot, Yang and Hugo for Giannis. I think that is pretty decent offer.

Portland can just say no, and they can virtually bank on having 3 lottery picks from Milwaukee.

The flat lotto odds make getting your own picks back less exciting, particularly if there's a chance you're going to be relegation-level bad. The expected value of any non-play-in team's pick is like, #8 (7.6, if you run the numbers), which is not nothing, but most years isn't much to get excited about.

Right but still a lot more valuable to have a pick that is going to be on average #8 then future Celtics or Miami picks when they have Giannis.

[Prospect Dong]

Well Portland is trading for Jaylen Brown, not Giannis. So they are probably not giving up more than that.

Who do you think it is bad for? The Bucks?

They get control of three picks that are likely going to be top 10 picks. They get Scoot, who has at least shown he is worth a decent 2nd contract. Yang is a wildcard but would have plenty of minutes to develop in Milwaukee. Plus Hugo and 2 more picks.

That is 3 firsts, 2 swaps, Scoot, Yang and Hugo for Giannis. I think that is pretty decent offer.

Portland can just say no, and they can virtually bank on having 3 lottery picks from Milwaukee.

The flat lotto odds make getting your own picks back less exciting, particularly if there's a chance you're going to be relegation-level bad. The expected value of any non-play-in team's pick is like, #8 (7.6, if you run the numbers), which is not nothing, but most years isn't much to get excited about.

Right but still a lot more valuable to have a pick that is going to be on average #8 then future Celtics or Miami picks when they have Giannis.

Yes, definitely. I'm on record - in this thread I think - as being very down on the Miami package, since they'll either have Giannis or whichever aging superstar they acquire next. But once a team hits the threshold for 'bad', you don't really care how bad. But, yeah, picks not from the team receiving Giannis are definitely more valuable.

[clippertown]

Damn - I cannot understand how a guy like Giannis's value is so low.

Clippers should really get involved and try to grab Giannis for themselves. A package built around #5 plus Kawhi should be plenty of value to land him. I'm sure Miami or GSW would pay handsomely for Kawhi, as the third team.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

The Heat simply just don't have enough. If they had a top 8 pick, they would have Giannis already.

The difference of player from pick 8 to pick 13 this year is virtually nothing. Honestly even from pick 5 to 16 is pretty much all 1 tier.

No team in the Association has their 16th favorite prospect the same as their 5th. Not a single one.

Jmac is going be totally flabbergasted when a team trades up and gives an asset

[Texas Chuck]

The difference of player from pick 8 to pick 13 this year is virtually nothing. Honestly even from pick 5 to 16 is pretty much all 1 tier.

No team in the Association has their 16th favorite prospect the same as their 5th. Not a single one.

Jmac is going be totally flabbergasted when a team trades up and gives an asset

If he was right the team moving down would pay the asset because they were getting a cheaper contract.

Tiers is a thing guys write about to get clicks on their mock drafts. Literally every single NBA team has all the draftable players in a clear preference. Some differences are huge: Lebron over Melo. Shaq over Mourning? Laettner? IDK. Wemby over whomever, etc... Some differences will be small.

But letting 11 players come off the board starting with the 5th? I mean that's just so silly to think teams would be cool with taking whomever was left.

Like did JMac never play pickup where you chose sides instead of shooting? You didn't say pick your 4 and then I'll just take who you don't want. But that's essentially his argument here.

Tiers are for selling mock drafts. They are not for NBA teams. And they don't magically end right where your team picks either.

[MadNESS]

Not saying I would do it, but I think the Lakers would offer something like:

Reaves S&T
Knecht
3 firsts

Pair Giannis with Luka and go from there.

Giannis would have to want it. Luka would have to want it.

Reaves is better than Herro

[psman2]

Not saying I would do it, but I think the Lakers would offer something like:

Reaves S&T
Knecht
3 firsts

Pair Giannis with Luka and go from there.

Giannis would have to want it. Luka would have to want it.

Reaves is better than Herro

Reaves is subject to BYC rules. So you would have to renounce Lebron and other free agent rights to operate under the cap by at least 58.5m to make this work and not have to work around BYC.

[Godaddycurse]

Not saying I would do it, but I think the Lakers would offer something like:

Reaves S&T
Knecht
3 firsts

Pair Giannis with Luka and go from there.

Giannis would have to want it. Luka would have to want it.

Reaves is better than Herro

Reaves is subject to BYC rules. So you would have to renounce Lebron and other free agent rights to operate under the cap by at least 58.5m to make this work and not have to work around BYC.

BYC means Reaves is worth 20M as outgoing matching, so with knecht too they just need another ~35M in salary space. still need to renounce lebron though

[babyjax13]

Has a Celtics/Bucks version been done with Jazz as 3rd team? Do Brown and Ainge have a connection? Love loss?

To Celtics: Giannis

To Jazz: Brown/Bucks Filler (yes maybe Rollins needed due to value headed Bucks way)

To Bucks: Bailey/JJJ or Markkanen/3x FRPs from Celtics

Jazz would have a nice win-now lineup:
Kessler
Markkanen or JJJ
Brown or AJ
Brown or Peterson
George

Bones of the trade, of course more filler and picks can be exchanged.

I wouldn't trade Ace and Lauri for Brown.

[psman2]

Not saying I would do it, but I think the Lakers would offer something like:

Reaves S&T
Knecht
3 firsts

Pair Giannis with Luka and go from there.

Giannis would have to want it. Luka would have to want it.

Reaves is better than Herro

Reaves is subject to BYC rules. So you would have to renounce Lebron and other free agent rights to operate under the cap by at least 58.5m to make this work and not have to work around BYC.

BYC means Reaves is worth 20M as outgoing matching, so with knecht too they just need another ~35M in salary space. still need to renounce lebron though

If they work under the cap then BYC doesn't apply. Reaves would count for his full new salary as long as the lakers have the cap room to fit Reaves new salary, however the Lakers matching requirement would 100% (250K cushion) of Giannis. So they would need either enough additional salary cap or enough contracts to match or a combinations of both to match the remaining difference.

[babyjax13]

BOS trades: Jaylen Brown, 2027 BOS 1st, 2031 BOS 1st, 2033 BOS 1st
in: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Obvious motivation is obvious.

POR trades: Jerami Grant, Shaedon Sharpe, 2028 POR/MIL 1st (higher), 2028 ORL 1st, 2029 BOS/MIL/POR 1st (highest)
in: Jaylen Brown
I have trouble with nailing the value down. I feel like whatever deal Portland is in, here, they are better off just taking Giannis for themselves? Based on the discussion in my Trey Murphy to Portland deal, I think they have the assets to add both Trey Murphy and Giannis to Deni, Dame, and Clingan.

MIL trades: Giannis Antetokounmpo
in: Jerami Grant, Shaedon Sharpe, 2027 BOS 1st, 2028 POR/MIL 1st (higher), 2028 ORL 1st, 2029 BOS/MIL/POR 1st (highest), 2031 BOS 1st, 2033 BOS 1st
With the new lottery odds getting their picks back is less valuable, what they need are more picks, more shots at the lottery, etc. I think this makes it harder to triangulate the value in a Giannis trade.

[Dat2U]

I think Giannis has not been moved yet because:

1. Teams are scared to give up future 1sts like they did before with the new lottery changes making alot of these future picks look more valuable than they were. A future first from Boston didn't seem like a lot a few months ago but they are one injury from those picks having fairly decent odds of moving up in any given year.

2. Giannis has lost a great deal of value when you consider he's missed 61 games the last two years with injuries, looked slower at times last year, and by all accounts (including from Myles Turner) was not an ideal teammate and pretty much did whatever he wanted.

Milwaukee should still be able to get a decent package for him but the idea of getting 5-6 future 1st rounders for Giannis might be dead.

[LarsV8]

Giannis is a fantastic player but there are just a ton of red flags, so it is a risky proposition.

Most GMs are more interested in job stability and will prefer a safer course of action. Offer quality will reflect that dynamic.

Likely only the desperate GMs will pony up, and they usually don't have much in terms of assets.

Only takes one though....we will see what happens. The draft should be a potential trigger point.

[Snakebites]

I think the Heat offer is DOA unless

a) there's literally nowhere else he'll sign and the Bucks are basically forced to deal
b) bad contracts are absorbed by other teams. And no, Detroit isn't giving up substantial value to get Herro. He's available because the Bucks don't want him.

And yeah of those the Celtics one with Portland seems like the best. If I'm Portland I'm probably more inclined to keep those picks though.

[Saul Goodman]

If he actually only wants the Heat he’s not serious about winning anything

Bam/Giannis/Powell with no real depth is maybe a 6th or 5th seed at best

[Saul Goodman]

I get the appeal of getting their picks back but what if they fall in love with someone at #5? Acuff, Flemmings, Wagler. Maybe they go all in on this draft?



To Boston
Giannis


to Milwaukee
Jimmy Butler
Bojan Bogdonavic
Moses Moody
#5
#10
2031 Celtics Unprotected
2032 Milwaukee Boston Swap


To LAC
Jaylen Brown
Bobby Portis


To GSW
Kawhi Leonard
Myles Turner
boston 2026 1st #29




The Celtics get Giannis

The Clippers get a new guy to lead them. Brown is 6 years younger and better than Kawhi. Resign Mathurin and run Garland/Brown/Mathurin

Warriors try to maximize a final Curry run. Curry/Kawhi/Draymond/Turner? I donno its fun at least. Maybe they can swing a Lebron SnT

Bucks get the best offer now instead of banking on the magic beans of their swaps. at #5 they can take Darius Acuff, #10 Nate Ament , #11 Hannes Steinbach


Rollins/Acuff/Kuzma/Ament/Steinbach

its going to be terrible next season but theres at least something to build with

[brackdan70]

Damn - I cannot understand how a guy like Giannis's value is so low.

Clippers should really get involved and try to grab Giannis for themselves. A package built around #5 plus Kawhi should be plenty of value to land him. I'm sure Miami or GSW would pay handsomely for Kawhi, as the third team.

Right!!! Though wouldn’t you want to pair Kawhi with Giannis?
I haven’t done the math but it seems the Clippers have enough other contracts and non guaranteed deals to make something work.
5 would definitely be the best pick floating around. Or if there is a Kawhi move involved GSW and Butler you could likely get 11 as well. Seems like the could put together a good package.
I’d assume Giannis would extend there but I think that’s part of the equation as well.

[brackdan70]

I get the appeal of getting their picks back but what if they fall in love with someone at #5? Acuff, Flemmings, Wagler. Maybe they go all in on this draft?



To Boston
Giannis


to Milwaukee
Jimmy Butler
Bojan Bogdonavic
Moses Moody
#5
#10
2031 Celtics Unprotected
2032 Milwaukee Boston Swap


To LAC
Jaylen Brown
Bobby Portis


To GSW
Kawhi Leonard
Myles Turner
boston 2026 1st #29




The Celtics get Giannis

The Clippers get a new guy to lead them. Brown is 6 years younger and better than Kawhi. Resign Mathurin and run Garland/Brown/Mathurin

Warriors try to maximize a final Curry run. Curry/Kawhi/Draymond/Turner? I donno its fun at least. Maybe they can swing a Lebron SnT

Bucks get the best offer now instead of banking on the magic beans of their swaps. at #5 they can take Darius Acuff, #10 Nate Ament , #11 Hannes Steinbach


Rollins/Acuff/Kuzma/Ament/Steinbach

its going to be terrible next season but theres at least something to build with

Bostons pick is #27
Boston probably has to also send a swap in 2030 or 2032 unless we are valuing taking on Portis Salary as worth that.
Regardless Boston maybe should be sending Hauser out if they are taking on Portis.

Overall not bad but is it good enough for the clippers? It’s valuing Brown as Kawhi plus 5 for them….that seems off.

[JMAC3]

No team in the Association has their 16th favorite prospect the same as their 5th. Not a single one.

Jmac is going be totally flabbergasted when a team trades up and gives an asset

If he was right the team moving down would pay the asset because they were getting a cheaper contract.

Tiers is a thing guys write about to get clicks on their mock drafts. Literally every single NBA team has all the draftable players in a clear preference. Some differences are huge: Lebron over Melo. Shaq over Mourning? Laettner? IDK. Wemby over whomever, etc... Some differences will be small.

But letting 11 players come off the board starting with the 5th? I mean that's just so silly to think teams would be cool with taking whomever was left.

Like did JMac never play pickup where you chose sides instead of shooting? You didn't say pick your 4 and then I'll just take who you don't want. But that's essentially his argument here.

Tiers are for selling mock drafts. They are not for NBA teams. And they don't magically end right where your team picks either.

You really lost the rope on this on this one...

[JMAC3]

The difference of player from pick 8 to pick 13 this year is virtually nothing. Honestly even from pick 5 to 16 is pretty much all 1 tier.

No team in the Association has their 16th favorite prospect the same as their 5th. Not a single one.

Jmac is going be totally flabbergasted when a team trades up and gives an asset

I bet a few teams will trade up, but typically teams aren't that willing to trade down and this year we are hearing that a lot more than typical. Honestly even from teams like Washington, Utah and Chicago. Those teams have flirted with trading down.

Same with Clippers, Nets, Kings, Hawks, Mavs etc... I mean the rumors are out there (I can post links if you need it haha) that teams are more than willing to trade down in this draft class. Nobody is all that excited to pick 5-9, because the guys at 10-14 are close enough.

Of course you would rather pick 5th and guarantee your guy, but teams are willing to move down for the extra asset and get a player close enough. That is the point- and typically not the norm most years.