Free Agent/Trade Thread Offseason 2026, Part 7 (For Christ sakes Martin, this week's the Fourth of July.)

[DusterBuster]

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I would be pretty bummed out getting just Scoot back. I actually like Sharpe more than most Celtic fans I’d assume.

Also, it doesn’t work financially for Grant/Scoot for JB. Portland would still need to send out around $10mill.

Grant/Scott for JB works through salary matching. Blazers would just be hard capped at the 1st apron because they're taking $9.3M more back then sending out, but they're $38.8M below that right now. Realistically, that cheap ass owner they got wouldn't want to go over the tax anyway and they're $30.8M below that now. They could do Grant/Scoot (and picks of course) for JB, re-sign or replace Rob as a backup center and try to use the bi-annual for a backup PG and be set while staying below the tax or maaaaaaaaaaybe needing to trade away Kris Murray to stay under.

Dame / (Bi-Annual Exception Signing) / Krejci
Jrue / Sharpe / Cissoko
Brown / Murray
Avidja / Camara
Clingan / (RWIII re-signed or MLE replacement) / Hansen

+ one more vet min

Now, maybe from a value standpoint we want Sharpe or looking at their long-term finances they might want to offload the contract if they're adding JB anyway.

Personally, if we get him I'd hope that NOP values him in a flip for Murphy and we can send him there.

Scoot / Pritchard
White / Hugo / Harper Jr.
Murphy (from follow up trade) / Scheierman / Walsh
Tatum / Grant / Cenac Jr.
Queta / (MLE SIGNING) / Garza / AWilliams

I'd be trying like hell to attach any picks we have left to Grant for a starting C, but I don't hate it.

Dundon would have ok’d a trade to go over the tax that happened at the deadline, but he wasn’t full owner (his own words).

He says he will pay and go over tax for players. He will put as much money into the team for on court winning as necessary… he just is cheap as **** literally everywhere else and doesn’t particularly value FO members like coaches for GMs. He thinks execs are expendable.

[hugepatsfan]

I just know a trade with the Blazers is going to piss me off because they’ll refuse to trade Clingan and the Celtics will accept some role players like Scoot and Sharpe just to get the Milwaukee picks. Probably stuck with Grant’s **** contract too.

I don’t think you’ll be alone in that feeling.

I will say Grant is clearly overpaid but he’s not useless. He did just average 19 PPG and shot 39% from 3pt with passable defense.

Yeah, the talk around Grant is really annoying. He’s clearly overpaid, but he’s not dead money like a Kuzma. He’s still a completely solid rotational or even starting level player. If he was getting 25mil per, very few people would bling twice. Grant isn’t an albatross unplayable roster anchor at all.

Yeah he's hardly unplayable. The albatross aspect of his deal was always the egregious 5-year term you guys handed out, not even the salary. Which was bad. But it should have always been a 4-year deal which would have it expiring right now and hardly viewed as negative salary filler. That extra year was silly to give out from the start, especially since he was being moderately overpaid in salary anyway so it's not like you were getting him cheaper for more years.

The only serious "issue" with him here is he's a bad fit with Tatum. While Tatum can play SF, he's best as a PF because he's better as an off ball rotating help defender than on ball. SF puts him in more of those situations ad gives him less favorable matchups on offense. But it's not something that can't be worked around.

[The Corey's]

Lowe: "The Celtics are going to have a choice. A very difficult choice...Between taking an offer for Jaylen Brown that is going to be not super well received by the fan base...Or, trying like hell to put the toothpaste back in the tube."

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1uid5v2/lowe_the_celtics_are_going_to_have_a_choice_a/

Given away brown is career ending for everyone involved.

Let's not.

[BigTrade92]

At this point, I don’t see any reason at all to trade JB, but if he’s seriously on the block I’ll keep pushing the Denver one of Murray, Gordon and picks for Brown and Hauser.

No Portland players interest me in the slightest and the Bucks picks do nothing to help Tatum’s timeline. I seriously hope that rumor is put to bed soon.

[hugepatsfan]

I would be pretty bummed out getting just Scoot back. I actually like Sharpe more than most Celtic fans I’d assume.

Also, it doesn’t work financially for Grant/Scoot for JB. Portland would still need to send out around $10mill.

Grant/Scott for JB works through salary matching. Blazers would just be hard capped at the 1st apron because they're taking $9.3M more back then sending out, but they're $38.8M below that right now. Realistically, that cheap ass owner they got wouldn't want to go over the tax anyway and they're $30.8M below that now. They could do Grant/Scoot (and picks of course) for JB, re-sign or replace Rob as a backup center and try to use the bi-annual for a backup PG and be set while staying below the tax or maaaaaaaaaaybe needing to trade away Kris Murray to stay under.

Dame / (Bi-Annual Exception Signing) / Krejci
Jrue / Sharpe / Cissoko
Brown / Murray
Avidja / Camara
Clingan / (RWIII re-signed or MLE replacement) / Hansen

+ one more vet min

Now, maybe from a value standpoint we want Sharpe or looking at their long-term finances they might want to offload the contract if they're adding JB anyway.

Personally, if we get him I'd hope that NOP values him in a flip for Murphy and we can send him there.

Scoot / Pritchard
White / Hugo / Harper Jr.
Murphy (from follow up trade) / Scheierman / Walsh
Tatum / Grant / Cenac Jr.
Queta / (MLE SIGNING) / Garza / AWilliams

I'd be trying like hell to attach any picks we have left to Grant for a starting C, but I don't hate it.

Dundon would have ok’d a trade to go over the tax that happened at the deadline, but he wasn’t full owner (his own words).

He says he will pay and go over tax for players. He will put as much money into the team for on court winning as necessary… he just is cheap as **** literally everywhere else and doesn’t particularly value FO members like coaches for GMs. He thinks execs are expendable.

Even further proves my point then about a deal being possible without Sharpe and just Grant/Scott. It works salary match wise. My guess though is that you guys would still end up below the tax in the scenario I outlined there. I don't think it would even take dumping Murray, just one of the 3rd unit guys at the deadline and backfill with a new pro rated minimum deal to save the net. That should keep you guys below the tax which delays any repeater penalties by a year and secures a payout from the other owners. Would just be smart business.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Can someone explain?

I mean, I’m here for it, but need a cup of context sir.

Look at the OP.

In my defense, Brown, if the Blazers would pull it off, is the biggest single trade I’ve seen them make in… almost 30 years?

The Blazers franchise has been a bunch of ****** when it comes to making any trade of significance my entire life outside of the late 90s Blazers w/ Pippen.

Hahaha nothing wrong with getting on the wall.

The Blazers could be seriously good with JB, even if they give up Scoot, Jrue and Clingan at worst. You'd have follow up options to balance things out better at centre and depth PG/SG.

Let's say you traded Sharpe for Gafford, re-signed Rob and then signed Melton into the MLE.

You'd still be a formidable team:

Dame/Melton
Brown/Krejci
Deni/Murray
Camara/Grant
Gafford/Rob Williams

It's why it's an interesting scenario. How comfortable are Boston keeping JB? Are there other serious suitors? Portland would need to weigh that before taking their offer to this level.

From Boston's perspective, how many chances does Portland have to get a player like this to fit in their roster and make them a serious threat? What are their other options? What are our other options. Boston would need to consider this before accepting Grant instead of Jrue for example. I think Clingan is a deal breaker for Boston IMO.

Side note: The funniest (and real) wall of shame was a sex shop near where I used to live. They had an internal camera and would put up photos of people in their window who shoplifted from them along with detail about what sex toy / paraphernalia they took. It was a must stop on the way to the supermarket for a good laugh.

[DusterBuster]

I don’t think you’ll be alone in that feeling.

I will say Grant is clearly overpaid but he’s not useless. He did just average 19 PPG and shot 39% from 3pt with passable defense.

Yeah, the talk around Grant is really annoying. He’s clearly overpaid, but he’s not dead money like a Kuzma. He’s still a completely solid rotational or even starting level player. If he was getting 25mil per, very few people would bling twice. Grant isn’t an albatross unplayable roster anchor at all.

Yeah he's hardly unplayable. The albatross aspect of his deal was always the egregious 5-year term you guys handed out, not even the salary. Which was bad. But it should have always been a 4-year deal which would have it expiring right now and hardly viewed as negative salary filler. That extra year was silly to give out from the start, especially since he was being moderately overpaid in salary anyway so it's not like you were getting him cheaper for more years.

The only serious "issue" with him here is he's a bad fit with Tatum. While Tatum can play SF, he's best as a PF because he's better as an off ball rotating help defender than on ball. SF puts him in more of those situations ad gives him less favorable matchups on offense. But it's not something that can't be worked around.

Dude, no **** lies here. That contract was gross the second it was announced.

I actually disagree he would be a bad fit with Tatum because of his ability to stretch the floor. He would actually be a really nice forward paring. He also doesn't care if he comes off the bench, he really thrived as a 6th man for Portland until injuries forced him back to the starting lineup. His shooting can open the lane for Tatum.

Just knowing both teams roster, Tatum and Grant would actually fit really well.

I gave ya'll a fair and accurate assessment of Simons when you got him, so you can trust me here, not trying to blow smoke up your asses to accept a deal you might not like. You guys would like having Jerami Grant, and he's a expiring next year, so w/e.

[BostoNZ]

Dundon would have ok’d a trade to go over the tax that happened at the deadline, but he wasn’t full owner (his own words).

He says he will pay and go over tax for players. He will put as much money into the team for on court winning as necessary… he just is cheap as **** literally everywhere else and doesn’t particularly value FO members like coaches for GMs. He thinks execs are expendable.

I know the Nori contract has really pissed off the coaches association and media in general

And not to be a devilled avocado here

But is it that bad to put non-guarantees on a coaches contract when players have non-guarantees/team options all the time?

[Darthlukey]

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I would be pretty bummed out getting just Scoot back. I actually like Sharpe more than most Celtic fans I’d assume.

Also, it doesn’t work financially for Grant/Scoot for JB. Portland would still need to send out around $10mill.

I'd be pissed if we were taking the diverse offer and we didnt get Sharpe

[BostoNZ]

Lowe: "The Celtics are going to have a choice. A very difficult choice...Between taking an offer for Jaylen Brown that is going to be not super well received by the fan base...Or, trying like hell to put the toothpaste back in the tube."

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1uid5v2/lowe_the_celtics_are_going_to_have_a_choice_a/

Lowe must have a colgate sponsorship or something. He's been riding that toothpaste metaphor for months

[DusterBuster]

Dundon would have ok’d a trade to go over the tax that happened at the deadline, but he wasn’t full owner (his own words).

He says he will pay and go over tax for players. He will put as much money into the team for on court winning as necessary… he just is cheap as **** literally everywhere else and doesn’t particularly value FO members like coaches for GMs. He thinks execs are expendable.

I know the Nori contract has really pissed off the coaches association and media in general

And not to be a devilled avocado here

But is it that bad to put non-guarantees on a coaches contract when players have non-guarantees/team options all the time?

Hey man, no argument here. I thought that whole process was **** and a **** awful look.

The reality is, we can only go off of what we're told since he's such a new owner. I hated the coaching thing, hate hate hated it. He's said in his press conference he's gonna be cheap on some areas, but never on the players. That is true for his NHL stint... so I'm just going off that.

[celticgreenie]

I want to say years ago (when Danny Ainge might have been GM) weren't we interested in Grant according to a Celtics insider on this forum?

[Bill Lumbergh]

I want to say years ago (when Danny Ainge might have been GM) weren't we interested in Grant according to a Celtics insider on this forum?

Yes, we were. It was CT who broke that.

[Ben-N1ce]

I dont trade him for these terrible offers. If he's pissed he's been on the the block for prime KD and Giannis who's better than him oh well. He can cry himself to sleep on his supernax bed of money. I'd rather do a coaching change than trade JB for a wack return.

[165bows]

Lowe: "The Celtics are going to have a choice. A very difficult choice...Between taking an offer for Jaylen Brown that is going to be not super well received by the fan base...Or, trying like hell to put the toothpaste back in the tube."

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1uid5v2/lowe_the_celtics_are_going_to_have_a_choice_a/

Lowe must have a colgate sponsorship or something. He's been riding that toothpaste metaphor for months

He was such a Dallas shill in ‘24, claiming Kyrie was the second best player in the series.

At this point almost all these guys just shill for the betting markets.

[BostoNZ]

Lowe: "The Celtics are going to have a choice. A very difficult choice...Between taking an offer for Jaylen Brown that is going to be not super well received by the fan base...Or, trying like hell to put the toothpaste back in the tube."

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1uid5v2/lowe_the_celtics_are_going_to_have_a_choice_a/

Lowe must have a colgate sponsorship or something. He's been riding that toothpaste metaphor for months

He was such a Dallas shill in ‘24, claiming Kyrie was the second best player in the series.

At this point almost all these guys just shill for the betting markets.

He was spamming that metaphor about Giannis

Personally, I would put the expended toothpaste into a glass, and then cover the glass with what I believe you Americans call "saran-wrap" rather than trying to cram it back inside the tube.

As it pertains to Jaylen, I guess the glass is Portland?

[DusterBuster]

A poster on the Blazer board mentioned this...

I'd wonder if part of the trade, since the Celts are desperate for a C could involve Timelord in a S&T

Celtics will have 180M in guarantees for 11 players. That's about 21M below the projected tax line and 29M below the 1st apron

Grant + Sharpe would be 4M less salary than Brown. That would be 24M under the tax and 33M below the apron.

so they'd have plenty of room to add Timelord at 10-12M and the full MLE

Don't get too hung up on Sharpe/Scoot/Camara etc... just the idea of what if there's a way to include Rob Williams as a S&T to the deal? Does that change the calculus?

[DusterBuster]

Lowe: "The Celtics are going to have a choice. A very difficult choice...Between taking an offer for Jaylen Brown that is going to be not super well received by the fan base...Or, trying like hell to put the toothpaste back in the tube."

https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1uid5v2/lowe_the_celtics_are_going_to_have_a_choice_a/

Lowe must have a colgate sponsorship or something. He's been riding that toothpaste metaphor for months

Doing a podcast is hard lol

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Lowe must have a colgate sponsorship or something. He's been riding that toothpaste metaphor for months

He was such a Dallas shill in ‘24, claiming Kyrie was the second best player in the series.

At this point almost all these guys just shill for the betting markets.

He was spamming that metaphor about Giannis

Personally, I would put the expended toothpaste into a glass, and then cover the glass with what I believe you Americans call "saran-wrap" rather than trying to cram it back inside the tube.

As it pertains to Jaylen, I guess the glass is Portland?

I mean, all of this is on the assumption the toothpaste is out of the tube, or that JB is pissed.

JB may be on board with Brad trying to find a suitable trade and return if unsuccessful. That discussion may have been had prior to the Giannis offer, which is why Brad felt comfortable holding his ground there.

[Curmudgeon]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.