Free Agent/Trade Thread Offseason 2026, Part 7 (For Christ sakes Martin, this week's the Fourth of July.)

[Fierce1]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

There's not going to be any serious offer from some team.

It was Giannis or bust.

Brad will not get equal value for JB if it's not a star player in return.

[redslastlaugh]

I think back to Brad Stevens quote about being miserable that first year as coach of the Celtics after coaching meaningful games in college.

He said (paraphrasing) … “During that first season, I met with Danny about how we can make this thing sustainable, that every season we go in knowing we can compete and every playoff series we go in knowing we can win the series if we play well. That’s not saying every season we will be one of the last four teams or we will be the last team standing but that every year we will be sustainably in the mix.”

If you look at some of Danny’s moves as GMs, they weren’t made with the intention of getting into the playoffs, each year going into a given season knowing the Celtics have a chance to win every series if the team performs at their best. And I think Brads approach comes from Butler where he personally, being one of the best coaches, had something to compete for every game with a legit chance to get to the Final Four if Butler performed well

And I think when he makes trades, his main goal is to keep the Celtics in the mix this year (and every year) so everyone can have a chance to succeed, and that the Celtics aren’t playing in non-competitive games, and that this level is sustained year in, year out… which this take may seem obvious, but very few organizations operate with this objective

[BleedGreen1989]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

[Fierce1]

I like the AD, Kyshawn, and Tre Johnson trade proposal.

Wiz just needs to add a pick or two.

[GrandTheftRondo]

As of today, the Celtics currently have the best odds to come out of the East and get to the Finals.

Odds aren’t everything but still quite a bit of outside confidence in this team.

The odds always are ridiculous when it comes to Boston.

They mean nothing. You could have made a fortune since 2020 betting against Boston in the playoffs

[Dogen]

I like the AD, Kyshawn, and Tre Johnson trade proposal.

Wiz just needs to add a pick or two.

What proposal is that? JB/Hauser for AD, Kyshawn George, and Tre Johnson + picks?

I don't see a reference.

[165bows]

A poster on the Blazer board mentioned this...

I'd wonder if part of the trade, since the Celts are desperate for a C could involve Timelord in a S&T

Celtics will have 180M in guarantees for 11 players. That's about 21M below the projected tax line and 29M below the 1st apron

Grant + Sharpe would be 4M less salary than Brown. That would be 24M under the tax and 33M below the apron.

so they'd have plenty of room to add Timelord at 10-12M and the full MLE

Don't get too hung up on Sharpe/Scoot/Camara etc... just the idea of what if there's a way to include Rob Williams as a S&T to the deal? Does that change the calculus?

RobWill is definitely on the list but Celtics have the full non tax MLE to spend on the C position. So it might but more on the convenience end of things, he’s an UFA so not really in position to be much value add.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

No apparently it’s all a big anti Celtics conspiracy and the media is just trying to force Brown out

[BleedGreen1989]

I like the AD, Kyshawn, and Tre Johnson trade proposal.

Wiz just needs to add a pick or two.

What proposal is that? JB/Hauser for AD, Kyshawn George, and Tre Johnson + picks?

I don't see a reference.

I threw it out earlier as a joke. The money does work though.

[Fierce1]

I like the AD, Kyshawn, and Tre Johnson trade proposal.

Wiz just needs to add a pick or two.

What proposal is that? JB/Hauser for AD, Kyshawn George, and Tre Johnson + picks?

I don't see a reference.

One of our fellow posters here posted that idea.

[DusterBuster]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

Even as an outside fan, I'm actually pretty shocked how it's playing out.

I have to believe it's largely the CBA and some advanced analytics nerds as well in some FO's talking him down.

I think there's probably a worry from teams too of how to fit him into their team. If you're pairing him with someone else, how do those two coexist when Brown seems to want to be "the guy" and have "his own team". I'm again not saying this from my own POV, just to understand the situation and provide some hypothesis' here.

I'm gonna take a big big big risk with my next comment here...

It's almost feeling like he's viewed as a really excellent version of Zach LaVine in some respects as the conversation has evolved.

Really good player, does a lot of really good things, but not someone you're going to go crazy breaking a roster up to give everything you can for...

Again, I don't agree with that take. I think whoever gets him is going to get a really great player and motivated to prove all that wrong. But I do think other franchises can be looking at it and wondering why they're always looking to move him but not Tatum when they've both been 1A and 1B players who work together.

Like for me, the latest BSPod, Zach Lowe mentioned that Portland might not like the fit of Deni and Brown. To me, Deni and Brown isn't far off from Tatum and Brown. I don't see much of a different in terms of players and play style. Tatum certainly better than Deni, but they have similar enough games where I don't see a problem with fit, unless teams are worried that Brown coming to a team with other stars could cause the same "problems" (?) that Boston saw trying to pair him with someone else.

I donno... I'm just spitballing here tbh... It's just honestly a weird situation and one I don't understand why it's what where it's at.

[Fierce1]

I like the AD, Kyshawn, and Tre Johnson trade proposal.

Wiz just needs to add a pick or two.

What proposal is that? JB/Hauser for AD, Kyshawn George, and Tre Johnson + picks?

I don't see a reference.

I threw it out earlier as a joke. The money does work though.

Both Tre Johnson and Kyshawn George have great potential.

AD will be a gamble.

The draft picks will sweeten the deal.

[Fierce1]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

That's why I keep saying likability is a big plus.

JB being controversial and not very likable hurts his brand.

[Curmudgeon]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

That's fine. I have eyeballs, and know that Brown is too good to trade for the trash that some pundits are proposing. I'm happy to keep Brown and add the right player or two to what the Celtics already have. I don't buy into the sophomoric notion that the relationship has been destroyed, or that Brown needs his own team or any of that crap.

[BleedGreen1989]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

Even as an outside fan, I'm actually pretty shocked how it's playing out.

I have to believe it's largely the CBA and some advanced analytics nerds as well in some FO's talking him down.

I think there's probably a worry from teams too of how to fit him into their team. If you're pairing him with someone else, how do those two coexist when Brown seems to want to be "the guy" and have "his own team". I'm again not saying this from my own POV, just to understand the situation and provide some hypothesis' here.

I'm gonna take a big big big risk with my next comment here...

It's almost feeling like he's viewed as a really excellent version of Zach LaVine in some respects as the conversation has evolved.

Really good player, does a lot of really good things, but not someone you're going to go crazy breaking a roster up to give everything you can for...

Again, I don't agree with that take. I think whoever gets him is going to get a really great player and motivated to prove all that wrong. But I do think other franchises can be looking at it and wondering why they're always looking to move him but not Tatum when they've both been 1A and 1B players who work together.

Like for me, the latest BSPod, Zach Lowe mentioned that Portland might not like the fit of Deni and Brown. To me, Deni and Brown isn't far off from Tatum and Brown. I don't see much of a different in terms of players and play style. Tatum certainly better than Deni, but they have similar enough games where I don't see a problem with fit, unless teams are worried that Brown coming to a team with other stars could cause the same "problems" (?) that Boston saw trying to pair him with someone else.

I donno... I'm just spitballing here tbh... It's just honestly a weird situation and one I don't understand why it's what where it's at.

Could be any of those reasons, it’s hard to tell.

I do think the new CBA is a huge part of it. I also wonder how hesitant some teams are to take players out of the Boston “ecosystem”. More often than not players seem to flatline or regress when leaving Boston.

Don’t think that would happen to Jaylen at all, but it’s a though.

[BleedGreen1989]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

That's fine. I have eyeballs, and know that Brown is too good to trade for the trash that some pundits are proposing. I'm happy to keep Brown and add the right player or two to what the Celtics already have. I don't buy into the sophomoric notion that the relationship has been destroyed, or that Brown needs his own team or any of that crap.

Not gonna lie, I had to look up the way you used sophomoric.

We all believe what we want I suppose. It’s hard to know what’s the reality and what’s not right now.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Still waiting for a serious offer from some team.

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

Even as an outside fan, I'm actually pretty shocked how it's playing out.

I have to believe it's largely the CBA and some advanced analytics nerds as well in some FO's talking him down.

I think there's probably a worry from teams too of how to fit him into their team. If you're pairing him with someone else, how do those two coexist when Brown seems to want to be "the guy" and have "his own team". I'm again not saying this from my own POV, just to understand the situation and provide some hypothesis' here.

I'm gonna take a big big big risk with my next comment here...

It's almost feeling like he's viewed as a really excellent version of Zach LaVine in some respects as the conversation has evolved.

Really good player, does a lot of really good things, but not someone you're going to go crazy breaking a roster up to give everything you can for...

Again, I don't agree with that take. I think whoever gets him is going to get a really great player and motivated to prove all that wrong. But I do think other franchises can be looking at it and wondering why they're always looking to move him but not Tatum when they've both been 1A and 1B players who work together.

Like for me, the latest BSPod, Zach Lowe mentioned that Portland might not like the fit of Deni and Brown. To me, Deni and Brown isn't far off from Tatum and Brown. I don't see much of a different in terms of players and play style. Tatum certainly better than Deni, but they have similar enough games where I don't see a problem with fit, unless teams are worried that Brown coming to a team with other stars could cause the same "problems" (?) that Boston saw trying to pair him with someone else.

I donno... I'm just spitballing here tbh... It's just honestly a weird situation and one I don't understand why it's what where it's at.

He makes 64 million a year.

That contract was already questionable in terms of value when he signed it.

Boston front office had to sign it so I’m not criticising them for doing so and it got us a title but with the new CBA it’s an albatross for a guy who isn’t at an SGA, Jokic, Wemby impact level of player. Particularly next to another super max guy.

In terms of the wider NBA I think smart teams are thinking a lot harder about roster construction and big salary contracts to guys who aren’t worth that much

[Fierce1]

One thing's for sure, Brad is not sophomoric.

Brad will not trade JB for trash.

Maybe that's why until now nothing is happening.

[BleedGreen1989]

Boston isn’t getting an offer you (and many others) will consider “serious”.

For a variety of reasons, it doesn’t appear he has the league wide value that many Celtic fans assume he should have.

Even as an outside fan, I'm actually pretty shocked how it's playing out.

I have to believe it's largely the CBA and some advanced analytics nerds as well in some FO's talking him down.

I think there's probably a worry from teams too of how to fit him into their team. If you're pairing him with someone else, how do those two coexist when Brown seems to want to be "the guy" and have "his own team". I'm again not saying this from my own POV, just to understand the situation and provide some hypothesis' here.

I'm gonna take a big big big risk with my next comment here...

It's almost feeling like he's viewed as a really excellent version of Zach LaVine in some respects as the conversation has evolved.

Really good player, does a lot of really good things, but not someone you're going to go crazy breaking a roster up to give everything you can for...

Again, I don't agree with that take. I think whoever gets him is going to get a really great player and motivated to prove all that wrong. But I do think other franchises can be looking at it and wondering why they're always looking to move him but not Tatum when they've both been 1A and 1B players who work together.

Like for me, the latest BSPod, Zach Lowe mentioned that Portland might not like the fit of Deni and Brown. To me, Deni and Brown isn't far off from Tatum and Brown. I don't see much of a different in terms of players and play style. Tatum certainly better than Deni, but they have similar enough games where I don't see a problem with fit, unless teams are worried that Brown coming to a team with other stars could cause the same "problems" (?) that Boston saw trying to pair him with someone else.

I donno... I'm just spitballing here tbh... It's just honestly a weird situation and one I don't understand why it's what where it's at.

He makes 64 million a year.

His cap hit next year is $57mill.

This puts him sandwiched between KAT and Booker.

[robdog_5]

If you feel Tatum and Brown are in the same ballpark which I do. Tatum back healthy next year with the same roster brown just had with maybe a few adds from what Brown brings in and a bounty of picks could be ideal. Stay relevant. Have a shot at making a run if all things click and picks to go after Jokic next year.

Let's say it's Grant, Scoot and and Kris Murray. Somehow Rob comes back in a sign and trade (don't know the cap mechanisms) with 4 picks (including Bucks 1st). That's an competitive team with a chance to extend Tatum window with picks or ability to make a big trade with picks.

You have
Rob/Queta/Garza
Tatum/Walsh
Grant/Hugo/Murray
White/Baylor
Scoot/Peyton