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Free Agent/Trade Thread Offseason 2026, Part 8 (Those beaches will be open!)

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Re: Free Agent/Trade Thread Offseason 2026, Part 8 (Those beaches will be open!) 

Post#41 » by ryan in Maine » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:17 pm

Why do I think Robinson is on a career long minutes restriction lol
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Post#42 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:18 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
How much is he realistically going to cost?

Do we have the money to sign him?

I think he’s a full midlevel guy…15 million.
We can do that. Will we?


Feel like we may get priced out and even then, do we want to be signing Robinson to the full MLE for probably 3-4 years? Ehhh


No wonder the C's are holding off on their smaller signings--though they will of course lose smaller opportunities with that.
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Post#43 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:18 pm

TheOGJabroni wrote:Duren & Thompson for Brown & Queta. Then Murphy (TPE) for picks. Is this possible? Would this be worth exploring?


Yes. Assuming Duren gets the max, this can be done financially. The team would be $2,977,791 below the 1st apron with 14 players signed. They'd be hard capped at the 1st apron.

White / Pritchard / Banton
Thompson / Hugo / Harper Jr.
Murphy / Scheierman / Walsh
Tatum / Hauser / Cenac Jr.
Duren / Garza

Probably need to follow it up by offloading Hauser somewhere and signing a backup center.

Bigger issue is I don't see DET doing that deal, And I don't think our own picks that we can trade are enough for Murphy.
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Post#44 » by flintsky21 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:19 pm

John Collins to Pistons.

Bigs market drying up fast.
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Post#45 » by itrsteve » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:21 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:Feel like we may get priced out and even then, do we want to be signing Robinson to the full MLE for probably 3-4 years? Ehhh


Absolutely. Some muscle in our center rotation would go a long way.
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Post#46 » by 165bows » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:22 pm

Man these threads are cooking.
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Post#47 » by Scarletfire81 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:23 pm

People were saying wait until free agency to judge Brad. I could literally see this happening before it even started. Celtics are either going to run it back and get bounced in the first round or trade JB for pennies on the dollar. We are in a bad situation…
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Post#48 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:24 pm

Fierce1 wrote:I think KP for the Simons TPE is possible.

GSW will use the cap space to sign Lebron.

KP is better than guys like Myles Turner and Mitchell Robinson.

I think it's worth it.

KP just resigned with the warriors. so they are keeping him..and he's on an overpriced contract anyways that we wouldn't want..especially with the health/injury issues.

No thanks.
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Post#49 » by The Corey's » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:24 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:People were saying wait until free agency to judge Brad. I could literally see this happening before it even started. Celtics are either going to run it back and get bounced in the first round or trade JB for pennies on the dollar. We are in a bad situation…


Not to mentioned that free agency has started and people have come off the board.

Who are these Celtics fans expecting for them to get in this class that's going to change a thing anyway?
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Post#50 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:24 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Asian Celtic wrote:Duren really tanked his value last playoffs, but I think we can't discredit his regular season production for a whole year.

I don't want him for JB, but if we can acquire him for a non JB package I think there's hope for him to thrive here.

It will take JB for Detroit to let Duren go.

Exactly.

Only way we get duren is if JB goes to detroit.
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Post#51 » by celticgreenie » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:25 pm

Shams reporting John Collins is expected to start at pf which is a drop off from Tobias Harris imo. Pistons will have to address their scoring behind Cade one way or another.

And Norm Powell now to Bulls. Leaves the Pistons to chase after Herro or JB. And Herro is a defensively liability come playoff time, do the Pistons really want to go there?
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Post#52 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:29 pm

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vwoodruff wrote:
Since everyone with a website is speculating and this board is losing its collective mind over what Brad has done without anything finalized, I’ll offer a plausible possibility of what’s up…

At this point, the delay could be due to this being S&T season. I suspect that Utah, Portland, and the Clippers each have serious interest. There have been zero leaks from Utah, which makes sense given the relationship between Brad and the Ainges. Utah has a major roster imbalance if they are planning to resign Kessler, which they have communicated intent to do.

If they resign Kessler, they have him, JJJ, and Lauri making $$$$$$ in their front court. Too much $$$$$$ for a front court with the current CBA.

Utah needs to figure out Kessler before it pulls the trigger on a deal centered around George and either Markkanen or Kessler for JB. JB is a known quantity in Utah and makes them relevant again with the team they’ve built.

The Clips just jumped into consideration by securing draft picks, trading a #1 for a #2. They may be positioning themselves to land JB without a rostered player being in the deal (which equals no agent leaking details to position their client). LAC could theoretically renounce most of their FAs and absorb JB’s contract without sending salary. They also have a couple of S&T candidates (Collins and Mathurin) who might be of interest to BOS.

With competition, POR now feels the pressure to put more assets on the table. They resign Timelord and bring in a value signing in Carlson to buffer the loss of Clingan. Perhaps the Cs wanted nothing to do with Grant and wanted Scoot and Holiday. They bring in Ja.

It is difficult for me to believe that Brad could go from absolute wizard to bumbling idiot overnight. I trust that they have a plan, and that once the outcome is delivered things will begin to make sense.


Here’s what these possibilities could look like:

BOS sends JB and Hauser to Utah
Utah sends George, Markkinen, FRP to BOS

BOS sends JB to LAC
LAC sends 6 FRPs and a ginormous TPE - BOS uses cap flexibility and assets to bring in talent to backfill JB and fill needs at center

BOS sends JB and Hauser to POR
POR sends Holiday, Henderson, Clingan, and 3 FRPs to BOS - Boston uses draft capital to backfill JB

Brad leverages draft pick option from LAC to get best offer out of Utah or POR"

Six FRPs for JB? We've got a green goggles of the week winner right here!
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Re: Free Agent/Trade Thread Offseason 2026, Part 8 (Those beaches will be open!) 

Post#53 » by BleedGreen1989 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:29 pm

itrsteve wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Feel like we may get priced out and even then, do we want to be signing Robinson to the full MLE for probably 3-4 years? Ehhh


Absolutely. Some muscle in our center rotation would go a long way.


That’s a huge financial commitment to someone who will likely be a backup center.

Unless you’re starting him over Queta and eventually moving on from Queta?
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Post#54 » by bfchs123 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:33 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
itrsteve wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Feel like we may get priced out and even then, do we want to be signing Robinson to the full MLE for probably 3-4 years? Ehhh


Absolutely. Some muscle in our center rotation would go a long way.


That’s a huge financial commitment to someone who will likely be a backup center.

Unless you’re starting him over Queta and eventually moving on from Queta?


I assume Queta and Robinson would each make ~$15M. ~$30M a year at the center position for two starting quality centers seems reasonable in today's NBA where one elite one gets $50M+ and a fringe top 10-15 guy like Kessler gets $35M+
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Post#55 » by 165bows » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:38 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
itrsteve wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Feel like we may get priced out and even then, do we want to be signing Robinson to the full MLE for probably 3-4 years? Ehhh


Absolutely. Some muscle in our center rotation would go a long way.


That’s a huge financial commitment to someone who will likely be a backup center.

Unless you’re starting him over Queta and eventually moving on from Queta?

That's why KP is a good fit imo, he can get some starts but still leaves an essentially full time starting role open. Also fills a needed role as there is an open spot for a rim protecting/floor spacing unicorn.

I do like Mitch Rob as a potential option though. I think if he came here he'd be a backup like he is in NY.
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Post#56 » by itrsteve » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:42 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:That’s a huge financial commitment to someone who will likely be a backup center.

Unless you’re starting him over Queta and eventually moving on from Queta?


Not at all. We're not going to have a top tier center on the roster so it will be done by committee based on lineups. Some nights Queta, some nights Robinson. Meanwhile, we're still building up A Williams and Cenac.

Queta is perfectly fine with the younger/spry bigs, but we need muscle for those times when we're getting absolutely bullied in the paint. I love Robinson for that, what we were hoping we could "get by" with Vuc but clearly failed miserably. We can get his FT %'s up. Not worried about that.
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Post#57 » by vwoodruff » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:47 pm

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vwoodruff wrote:
Since everyone with a website is speculating and this board is losing its collective mind over what Brad has done without anything finalized, I’ll offer a plausible possibility of what’s up…

At this point, the delay could be due to this being S&T season. I suspect that Utah, Portland, and the Clippers each have serious interest. There have been zero leaks from Utah, which makes sense given the relationship between Brad and the Ainges. Utah has a major roster imbalance if they are planning to resign Kessler, which they have communicated intent to do.

If they resign Kessler, they have him, JJJ, and Lauri making $$$$$$ in their front court. Too much $$$$$$ for a front court with the current CBA.

Utah needs to figure out Kessler before it pulls the trigger on a deal centered around George and either Markkanen or Kessler for JB. JB is a known quantity in Utah and makes them relevant again with the team they’ve built.

The Clips just jumped into consideration by securing draft picks, trading a #1 for a #2. They may be positioning themselves to land JB without a rostered player being in the deal (which equals no agent leaking details to position their client). LAC could theoretically renounce most of their FAs and absorb JB’s contract without sending salary. They also have a couple of S&T candidates (Collins and Mathurin) who might be of interest to BOS.

With competition, POR now feels the pressure to put more assets on the table. They resign Timelord and bring in a value signing in Carlson to buffer the loss of Clingan. Perhaps the Cs wanted nothing to do with Grant and wanted Scoot and Holiday. They bring in Ja.

It is difficult for me to believe that Brad could go from absolute wizard to bumbling idiot overnight. I trust that they have a plan, and that once the outcome is delivered things will begin to make sense.


Here’s what these possibilities could look like:

BOS sends JB and Hauser to Utah
Utah sends George, Markkinen, FRP to BOS

BOS sends JB to LAC
LAC sends 6 FRPs and a ginormous TPE - BOS uses cap flexibility and assets to bring in talent to backfill JB and fill needs at center

BOS sends JB and Hauser to POR
POR sends Holiday, Henderson, Clingan, and 3 FRPs to BOS - Boston uses draft capital to backfill JB

Brad leverages draft pick option from LAC to get best offer out of Utah or POR"

Six FRPs for JB? We've got a green goggles of the week winner right here!


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Post#58 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:54 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
itrsteve wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Feel like we may get priced out and even then, do we want to be signing Robinson to the full MLE for probably 3-4 years? Ehhh


Absolutely. Some muscle in our center rotation would go a long way.


That’s a huge financial commitment to someone who will likely be a backup center.

Unless you’re starting him over Queta and eventually moving on from Queta?


Robinson is an elite backup. He can start. So is the full MLE really a big commitment? Depends what you’re asking him to do. Sometimes less is more. If he gives you elite production for 17 minutes a night might not be the worst thing in the world. Also remember that when the expansion teams get cleared the cap probably will go up too.
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Post#59 » by TheOGJabroni » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:55 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
TheOGJabroni wrote:Duren & Thompson for Brown & Queta. Then Murphy (TPE) for picks. Is this possible? Would this be worth exploring?


Yes. Assuming Duren gets the max, this can be done financially. The team would be $2,977,791 below the 1st apron with 14 players signed. They'd be hard capped at the 1st apron.

White / Pritchard / Banton
Thompson / Hugo / Harper Jr.
Murphy / Scheierman / Walsh
Tatum / Hauser / Cenac Jr.
Duren / Garza

Probably need to follow it up by offloading Hauser somewhere and signing a backup center.

Bigger issue is I don't see DET doing that deal, And I don't think our own picks that we can trade are enough for Murphy.

Yeah fair enough. My secondary thought is Brown for Duren & Robinson + picks that then route those picks in a deal for Murphy. If we still needed to add in Queta to make the deal work, I'd do it but we'd for sure need to be looking at another big like you mentioned.
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Post#60 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jul 1, 2026 1:58 pm

chrisab123 wrote:[This is a team that has made the ECF multiple times, they’ve made deep playoff runs and this is overall a talented roster. The onus is on Brad to keep developing players that can fill out a roster around Tatum Brown and White. Unless of course White gets moved. I get it though people are tired of a red car and want to buy a black one because change is good. Truth be told your theory of you can’t win with two max guys has a very small sample size.


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I don't know about that. IMO, contending is making it to your conference finals.

They made it there a bunch together and early on the rosters were pretty mehhhh imo

Playoffs are tricky with matchups and coaching. If you stay hot long enough there's a good chance you make the dance. Problem is only two teams stay hot enough long enough.

I think this roster is pretty good, but there's a bunch of guys still developing while they're trying to win.

I'm not a fan of Jordan Poole, but when they won in 22' his rookie year he made the starters lives pretty easy those playoffs.

He went from 8 a game to 18 where as White went from 11 a game to 8. I'm not putting it on White, I'm just showing how one addition worked at the right time and another addition didn't.

The East has been so mediocre over the last 10 years that it has been pretty hard for Boston not to make the ECF. In the years I'd say we were a genuine shot at the title, 2022, 2023 and 2024 and 2025 we had some pretty talented rosters and Al Hoford who was incredibly important to everything.

Saying oh they've competed in the past with Tatum and Brown just totally disregards the other talents they've had on the roster. if they run it back again next year it doesn't come close to the defensive talent of the 2022/2023 Celtics or the firepower of the champion team.

You can't seriously tell me Derrick White, Payton Pritchard, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown and Neemias Queta comes close to those other rosters.

The only time we actually won the title was when we just completely overpowered the NBA with a stacked roster.

I have seen nearly a decade of evidence about Tatum and Brown. They are who they are. Neither is a true MVP level player and it severely limits our title contending abilities considering they are both supermax contracts.

I don't care if we run it back and win 50-55 games next year and make the ECF. That's not a contender.

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