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Portland trade: Scoot
Portland receive: Toppin, MIA 2027 LP 1st
Charlotte trade: DFS, Kalkbrenner, MIA 2027 LP 1st
Charlotte receive: Scoot, Huff
Indiana trade: Toppin, Huff
Indiana receive: DFS, Kalkbrenner
Why for Indiana: Exchange Toppins with a defensive forward familiar with Carlisle and upgrade backup C. Save money next year
Why for Charlotte: See if Scoot can be PGOF
Why for Portland: Add a much needed spacing 3rd forward for their rotation and a pick
Add second(s) as needed
Portland receive: Toppin, MIA 2027 LP 1st
Charlotte trade: DFS, Kalkbrenner, MIA 2027 LP 1st
Charlotte receive: Scoot, Huff
Indiana trade: Toppin, Huff
Indiana receive: DFS, Kalkbrenner
Why for Indiana: Exchange Toppins with a defensive forward familiar with Carlisle and upgrade backup C. Save money next year
Why for Charlotte: See if Scoot can be PGOF
Why for Portland: Add a much needed spacing 3rd forward for their rotation and a pick
Add second(s) as needed
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Is Toppins Toppin?
I'd rather just take a flier on Scoot at this cost.
I'd rather just take a flier on Scoot at this cost.
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ReggiesKnicks wrote:Is Toppins Toppin?
I'd rather just take a flier on Scoot at this cost
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Can you afford scoots next contract?
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This Portland fan would accept this deal.
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As a Blazers fan, I'd do this for Sharpe but not Scoot
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Fitz303 wrote:As a Blazers fan, I'd do this for Sharpe but not Scoot
Sharpe wouldnt fetch a first
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I think Indy would just prefer keeping Obi over swapping him for DFS? Obi has earned Carlisle's trust in this system. As for the Kalkbrenner vs. Huff swap, Kalk may be better in a vacuum, but Huff is the situational stretch C now that Potter is gone, too. I think rim protections is pretty comparable, but Kalk is pretty tethered to the rim offensively, whereas Huff offers something different from Kalk (and Zubac) to switch it up?
Value wise, it's very fine. It's just the fits?
Value wise, it's very fine. It's just the fits?
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Pacer management has said they like their top 7 and that's the starters plus Toppin and McConnell. I don't see them trading any of the 7. If they do make a trade, I'd expect Walker or Sheppard to be moved for payroll relief.
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I do this for Portland.
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What does Scoot do for Indy? Leaving aside he's been a bust, at his actualized form he would be an average backup PG. Does Indy need that? or need that so badly that they should give up a rotation player plus a FRP to pay $14 million for that (or, rather, a chance at that)?
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BK_2020 wrote:What does Scoot do for Indy? Leaving aside he's been a bust, at his actualized form he would be an average backup PG. Does Indy need that? or need that so badly that they should give up a rotation player plus a FRP to pay $14 million for that (or, rather, a chance at that)?
I assume you're replying to reggies and not OP?
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Godaddycurse wrote:BK_2020 wrote:What does Scoot do for Indy? Leaving aside he's been a bust, at his actualized form he would be an average backup PG. Does Indy need that? or need that so badly that they should give up a rotation player plus a FRP to pay $14 million for that (or, rather, a chance at that)?
I assume you're replying to reggies and not OP?
yeah my bad should've quoted. Indy's PG depth is about as solid as it gets so they just shouldn't take a flyer on a 14 million dollar PG lottery ticket.
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Decent value for Portland. Fine with it if management believes Scoot is Rubio 2.0 and not Westbrook 2.0.

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Hornets say yes to this
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I think the Pacers probably prefer Huff to Kalkbrenner and the Hornets may prefer Kalkbrenner to Huff given the runway each team has.
Then you get into whether the Blazers might prefer an expiring (if they so choose) DFS on a smaller deal over Toppin on his two-year deal due to their cap situation, and I'm just not sure the Pacers need to be in this trade.
Then you get into whether the Blazers might prefer an expiring (if they so choose) DFS on a smaller deal over Toppin on his two-year deal due to their cap situation, and I'm just not sure the Pacers need to be in this trade.
This will end badly
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JasonStern wrote:Decent value for Portland. Fine with it if management believes Scoot is Rubio 2.0 and not Westbrook 2.0.
If you think Scoot is Rubio 2,0 (he's not) you don't trade him for Toppin and a **** pick.
If you want to try to measure the elements of basketball that are supposedly unmeasurable, spend a game just watching Marc Gasol.
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Godaddycurse wrote:Portland trade: Scoot
Portland receive: Toppin, MIA 2027 LP 1st
Charlotte trade: DFS, Kalkbrenner, MIA 2027 LP 1st
Charlotte receive: Scoot, Huff
Indiana trade: Toppin, Huff
Indiana receive: DFS, Kalkbrenner
Why for Indiana: Exchange Toppins with a defensive forward familiar with Carlisle and upgrade backup C. Save money next year
Why for Charlotte: See if Scoot can be PGOF
Why for Portland: Add a much needed spacing 3rd forward for their rotation and a pick
Add second(s) as needed
This is not terrible but I do like Toppin and I like Huff a lot as a back up center, he did a great job last season blocking shots and has a pretty good 3 pt shot. His 1.9 blocks per game and 32% 3 pt shot makes him a pretty nice back up to have for 16-20 min per game.
I think Kalkbrenner would be similar to Huff maybe better, but I do like Toppin better than DFS at this point in his career.
So I'd have to decline this.
Pacers may do something by the deadline for Walker and or Sheppard but we'll have to wait for that. I think the Pacers are pretty much set for their roster.
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sisibilio wrote:JasonStern wrote:Decent value for Portland. Fine with it if management believes Scoot is Rubio 2.0 and not Westbrook 2.0.
If you think Scoot is Rubio 2,0 (he's not) you don't trade him for Toppin and a **** pick.
Yeah, Rubio was a solid point.
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