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[Mavrelous]

So they want to take money from the players and clubs? Im sure that will be appreciated by them. Will it be an own organization, nbapa got nothing to say about it. If its part of the nba im gurssing its the same nbapa so same rules. Nba players must be the greediest bunch in the world

Greedy? The owners/association is gonna branch out using the name/likeness/brand recognition that the players helped create. Why is it wrong for them to want a piece of the profits?

I'm not sure that's true, the NBA isn't marketing NBA players/rules, they are marketing their management of the league, they are (were, now it looks like a cooperation) replacing the Euroleague, and already existing league and players.

[Apz]

What profits? With what being said its a wnba/g-league that they demand 1bn to buy into. What financial groups would pay that and give away whatever they can get in? Its not nba level basket ball. And with max salaries that low not even the arabs is intrested cause they are only if thet can outspend to win. A level playingfield isnt their thing.

And yes, greedy. They want profits from something that most likely will go with a loss. Its the wnba negotiations all over again. But atleast they wanted money from the league they play in, those greedy ones just want to dip their hands in someone elses pockets, an american specialty sure, but its just another reason nba europe will fail

You are already pushing some boundaries, but we are not going to have racist-tinged posts like this on this board. Probably an issue you can't handle politically, but definitely avoid it if you are going to generalize groups of people in this fashion.

No idea wtf u on about? U might want to explain what is racist in the post, cause there is clearly none. But its just the usual TC filling out the blanks with whatever comes to his mind to express his powers on the board, guess not gotten to use his banhammer much this summer so out trumping up charges.

Facts is facts. Shouting racist when nothing even is about race is the lowest form of self karenism. Now, if someone says black guys is more athletic then white guys, thats also a fact. I dont see u write long angry red posts about that, even tho that actually is about race while what i wrote were about culture. Two things that are very different things.

I seriously cant see how u can get the post to be about race. And I seriously cant understand why I wrote a reply this long, when we know what will happen: U delete this reply, gives a ban cause u dont like to be wrong, and i get an angry mail saying something like "You can not correct a moderator, moderators are above all you peasants. We are handing u an X amount ban. When the time is up u have to write a letter of apology to us to get your posting rights back". Oh there is another CULTURAL thing in america. A forced apology is meaningless, its not an apology at all, its just a powerplay from the one in power to showcase that they can force someone into doing something against their beliefs.

Since it was friday i choose to believe TC had one too many drinks and didnt think his reply thru, so I forgive him for calling it a racist post.

[Mavrelous]

When Dunleavy made the alienating comment about "demand" WRT to Kuminga, I thought that was unnecessary and unprofessional, I take that back, that agent is really a piece of work, going on a media tour eying Kings cap space after your player sign TPMLE with the Wolves is something else.
I hope Kuminga is wiser than his agent.

[Texas Chuck]

What profits? With what being said its a wnba/g-league that they demand 1bn to buy into. What financial groups would pay that and give away whatever they can get in? Its not nba level basket ball. And with max salaries that low not even the arabs is intrested cause they are only if thet can outspend to win. A level playingfield isnt their thing.

And yes, greedy. They want profits from something that most likely will go with a loss. Its the wnba negotiations all over again. But atleast they wanted money from the league they play in, those greedy ones just want to dip their hands in someone elses pockets, an american specialty sure, but its just another reason nba europe will fail

You are already pushing some boundaries, but we are not going to have racist-tinged posts like this on this board. Probably an issue you can't handle politically, but definitely avoid it if you are going to generalize groups of people in this fashion.

No idea wtf u on about? U might want to explain what is racist in the post, cause there is clearly none. But its just the usual TC filling out the blanks with whatever comes to his mind to express his powers on the board, guess not gotten to use his banhammer much this summer so out trumping up charges.

Facts is facts. Shouting racist when nothing even is about race is the lowest form of self karenism. Now, if someone says black guys is more athletic then white guys, thats also a fact. I dont see u write long angry red posts about that, even tho that actually is about race while what i wrote were about culture. Two things that are very different things.

I seriously cant see how u can get the post to be about race. And I seriously cant understand why I wrote a reply this long, when we know what will happen: U delete this reply, gives a ban cause u dont like to be wrong, and i get an angry mail saying something like "You can not correct a moderator, moderators are above all you peasants. We are handing u an X amount ban. When the time is up u have to write a letter of apology to us to get your posting rights back". Oh there is another CULTURAL thing in america. A forced apology is meaningless, its not an apology at all, its just a powerplay from the one in power to showcase that they can force someone into doing something against their beliefs.

Since it was friday i choose to believe TC had one too many drinks and didnt think his reply thru, so I forgive him for calling it a racist post.

Take responsibility. For once.

You made a generalization about Arabs. You did. Not me.

Nobody banned you. Nobody gave you a timeout. Nobody even formally warned you. Just reminded you don't make racist posts. Seems reasonable, no?

You are not the victim.

This isn't hard. Don't post generalizations of groups you don't like. Asking you not to is is not me power tripping lol. That's me simply doing what a mod should do.

[jayu70]

Pistons discouraging teams from pursuing Jalen DurenAug. 29, 2026, 5:27 AM EDT

Tim MacMahon: "The one restricted free agency situation that remains unresolved is Jalen Duren, who the Pistons absolutely positively 100% intend to keep, and made it clear to anybody pursuing him in a sign and trade possibilities like, you're wasting your time."

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[jbk1234]

Pistons discouraging teams from pursuing Jalen DurenAug. 29, 2026, 5:27 AM EDT

Tim MacMahon: "The one restricted free agency situation that remains unresolved is Jalen Duren, who the Pistons absolutely positively 100% intend to keep, and made it clear to anybody pursuing him in a sign and trade possibilities like, you're wasting your time."

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I mean the Pistons have the right to do this. Duren has the right to sign the Q.O. or play in EU and hit the RFA market next summer when there's far more money available. I suspect a little skepticism is warranted here as the one reported S&T offer involved the Pistons taking back Sabonis. This could be Dumars/Weaver offering Zion and leaking to Duren's agent they're getting shut down.

[Texas Chuck]

I'm just not sold there is a team both willing to pay Duren what he wants and give the Pistons something worth their while. Paying Duren a near max deal is setting yourself up to have a contract you can't readily move so he has to work out. Giving up assets to take that gamble doesn't feel like something teams are going to want to do.

Duren picked the worst possible time to have poor playoff games. Detroit understands he's a good player and one they would like to retain at the right number, but aren't going to saddle themselves with an albatross when they have a star in Cade who has been anchoring very good teams.

What I don't understand about Detroit is why they weren't more aggressive adding another legit offensive option to Cade. Maybe they still will. Still seems like Kyrie should end this season somewhere else for instance. Utah might get really reasonable on Lauri if this season goes poorly as I suspect it will.

[Apz]

You are already pushing some boundaries, but we are not going to have racist-tinged posts like this on this board. Probably an issue you can't handle politically, but definitely avoid it if you are going to generalize groups of people in this fashion.

No idea wtf u on about? U might want to explain what is racist in the post, cause there is clearly none. But its just the usual TC filling out the blanks with whatever comes to his mind to express his powers on the board, guess not gotten to use his banhammer much this summer so out trumping up charges.

Facts is facts. Shouting racist when nothing even is about race is the lowest form of self karenism. Now, if someone says black guys is more athletic then white guys, thats also a fact. I dont see u write long angry red posts about that, even tho that actually is about race while what i wrote were about culture. Two things that are very different things.

I seriously cant see how u can get the post to be about race. And I seriously cant understand why I wrote a reply this long, when we know what will happen: U delete this reply, gives a ban cause u dont like to be wrong, and i get an angry mail saying something like "You can not correct a moderator, moderators are above all you peasants. We are handing u an X amount ban. When the time is up u have to write a letter of apology to us to get your posting rights back". Oh there is another CULTURAL thing in america. A forced apology is meaningless, its not an apology at all, its just a powerplay from the one in power to showcase that they can force someone into doing something against their beliefs.

Since it was friday i choose to believe TC had one too many drinks and didnt think his reply thru, so I forgive him for calling it a racist post.

Take responsibility. For once.

You made a generalization about Arabs. You did. Not me.

Nobody banned you. Nobody gave you a timeout. Nobody even formally warned you. Just reminded you don't make racist posts. Seems reasonable, no?

You are not the victim.

This isn't hard. Don't post generalizations of groups you don't like. Asking you not to is is not me power tripping lol. That's me simply doing what a mod should do.

Its an historical fact. Man City, PSG, the list goes on. Since u are saying its historicly incorrect, where is your examples of the opposit? And I never said I dont like them, its u putting words in my mouth again. I bet 30% of the guys at my work is from the middleast, so not sure what u getting at. Its just the kind of owners they are, and the reason the other nba owners dont want them to own an nba franchise cause it would cause the others that want to compete have to spend a lot more thrn they are willing to. Just as every premier league fanbase knows that if u get american owners they will spend bare minimum and try take as much profits out of the club as possible, which is the reason most of those owners dont even dare to show their faces around the arenas. Its just how it is, different ownership cultures.

Whomever yells "murder" is what they say, right?

[jbk1234]

No idea wtf u on about? U might want to explain what is racist in the post, cause there is clearly none. But its just the usual TC filling out the blanks with whatever comes to his mind to express his powers on the board, guess not gotten to use his banhammer much this summer so out trumping up charges.

Facts is facts. Shouting racist when nothing even is about race is the lowest form of self karenism. Now, if someone says black guys is more athletic then white guys, thats also a fact. I dont see u write long angry red posts about that, even tho that actually is about race while what i wrote were about culture. Two things that are very different things.

I seriously cant see how u can get the post to be about race. And I seriously cant understand why I wrote a reply this long, when we know what will happen: U delete this reply, gives a ban cause u dont like to be wrong, and i get an angry mail saying something like "You can not correct a moderator, moderators are above all you peasants. We are handing u an X amount ban. When the time is up u have to write a letter of apology to us to get your posting rights back". Oh there is another CULTURAL thing in america. A forced apology is meaningless, its not an apology at all, its just a powerplay from the one in power to showcase that they can force someone into doing something against their beliefs.

Since it was friday i choose to believe TC had one too many drinks and didnt think his reply thru, so I forgive him for calling it a racist post.

Take responsibility. For once.

You made a generalization about Arabs. You did. Not me.

Nobody banned you. Nobody gave you a timeout. Nobody even formally warned you. Just reminded you don't make racist posts. Seems reasonable, no?

You are not the victim.

This isn't hard. Don't post generalizations of groups you don't like. Asking you not to is is not me power tripping lol. That's me simply doing what a mod should do.

Its an historical fact. Man City, PSG, the list goes on. Since u are saying its historicly incorrect, where is your examples of the opposit? And I never said I dont like them, its u putting words in my mouth again. I bet 30% of the guys at my work is from the middleast, so not sure what u getting at. Its just the kind of owners they are, and the reason the other nba owners dont want them to own an nba franchise cause it would cause the others that want to compete have to spend a lot more thrn they are willing to. Just as every premier league fanbase knows that if u get american owners they will spend bare minimum and try take as much profits out of the club as possible, which is the reason most of those owners dont even dare to show their faces around the arenas. Its just how it is, different ownership cultures.

Whomever yells "murder" is what they say, right?

There's a difference between sovereign wealth funds of ME countries attempting to diversify their portfolios and *Arabs.* The same way there's a difference between the current crop of tech billionaires and *white* people. You're attributing the actions of the few to a group based solely on race. The Saudi monarchy has about as much in common with the average Saudi citizen as the average white person has in common with Elon Musk.

[Texas Chuck]

Its an historical fact. Man City, PSG, the list goes on. Since u are saying its historicly incorrect, where is your examples of the opposit? And I never said I dont like them, its u putting words in my mouth again. I bet 30% of the guys at my work is from the middleast, so not sure what u getting at. Its just the kind of owners they are, and the reason the other nba owners dont want them to own an nba franchise cause it would cause the others that want to compete have to spend a lot more thrn they are willing to. Just as every premier league fanbase knows that if u get american owners they will spend bare minimum and try take as much profits out of the club as possible, which is the reason most of those owners dont even dare to show their faces around the arenas. Its just how it is, different ownership cultures.

Whomever yells "murder" is what they say, right?

Going to be super clear so you don't cry victim again. I already asked you not to do this. You are persisting. This is the last friendly "warning" not to do so. Understand if you persist, you might find yourself facing consequences. This will be a choice you have made. You know the rules, you have been reminded twice now. So if the board admins decide there is no place for a poster bound and determined to post in this fashion, I sure hope for once you take responsibility for your own choices.

Now if you want to talk about a specific governor of an NBA team in a way that is pertinent, feel free. But if you want to keep making racist broad generalizations, then live with any ramifications. There are plenty of places on the internet for you to not only spread this kind of nonsense, but be embraced for it. This board however strives to be an inclusive place.

PM me if any of this remains unclear. But none of it should be remotely unclear. Don't make negative broad sweeping generalizations. See how easy?

[shrink]

15-man rosters are coming, and today is the last day most teams would waive and stretch players, to waivers by the 31st.

Who’s on this list?

[shrink]

In a related note, it sounds like the Wolves may stretch Konchar today.

Anyone want to offer a smaller deal - maybe someone they were going to dump themselves?

[mademan]

I like Konchar. I think he finds a team, and might even surprise. Lakers should take him

[chrbal]

In a related note, it sounds like the Wolves may stretch Konchar today.

Anyone want to offer a smaller deal - maybe someone they were going to dump themselves?

Call Memphis, they have a bunch of random extra players

[shrink]

In a related note, it sounds like the Wolves may stretch Konchar today.

Anyone want to offer a smaller deal - maybe someone they were going to dump themselves?

Call Memphis, they have a bunch of random extra players

Good idea. On the MIN board, I suggested AJ Johnson and Olivier maxience Prosper - two guys they may cut anyway.

[babyjax13]

In a related note, it sounds like the Wolves may stretch Konchar today.

Anyone want to offer a smaller deal - maybe someone they were going to dump themselves?

Call Memphis, they have a bunch of random extra players

Good idea. On the MIN board, I suggested AJ Johnson and Olivier maxience Prosper - two guys they may cut anyway.

Don't think they are cutting OMP, he was really good for them last season.

[shrink]

Call Memphis, they have a bunch of random extra players

Good idea. On the MIN board, I suggested AJ Johnson and Olivier maxience Prosper - two guys they may cut anyway.

Don't think they are cutting OMP, he was really good for them last season.

When they sign Lopez, their #21 pick, I think they will have 20 guaranteed contracts

DLo, Kris Murray, AJ Johnson and Brandon Clark are all likely gone, and they have about 7 PF’s on the roster. I’m not sure who their last cut would be (Taj Gibson is unguaranteed, so he isn’t counted in the 20).

[Scoot McGroot]

Good idea. On the MIN board, I suggested AJ Johnson and Olivier maxience Prosper - two guys they may cut anyway.

Don't think they are cutting OMP, he was really good for them last season.

When they sign Lopez, their #21 pick, I think they will have 20 guaranteed contracts

DLo, Kris Murray, AJ Johnson and Brandon Clark are all likely gone, and they have about 7 PF’s on the roster. I’m not sure who their last cut would be (Taj Gibson is unguaranteed, so he isn’t counted in the 20).

You should probably sit down, because I have terrible news for you….

[shrink]

Don't think they are cutting OMP, he was really good for them last season.

When they sign Lopez, their #21 pick, I think they will have 20 guaranteed contracts

DLo, Kris Murray, AJ Johnson and Brandon Clark are all likely gone, and they have about 7 PF’s on the roster. I’m not sure who their last cut would be (Taj Gibson is unguaranteed, so he isn’t counted in the 20).

You should probably sit down, because I have terrible news for you….

Yeah, he was guaranteed contract, so he gets waived and doesn’t count towards the 20 roster spots? Am I missing something?

Ah. It’s my dangling “likely” for the four I predicted. I don’t really know who #5 is.

[babyjax13]

When they sign Lopez, their #21 pick, I think they will have 20 guaranteed contracts

DLo, Kris Murray, AJ Johnson and Brandon Clark are all likely gone, and they have about 7 PF’s on the roster. I’m not sure who their last cut would be (Taj Gibson is unguaranteed, so he isn’t counted in the 20).

You should probably sit down, because I have terrible news for you….

Yeah, he was guaranteed contract, so he gets waived and doesn’t count towards the 20 roster spots? Am I missing something?

Ah. It’s my dangling “likely” for the four I predicted. I don’t really know who #5 is.

I think they have enough small salaries they can move one for a 2nd; e.g., Cam Spencer. Someone should want him and they have a million guards, too.