MLB's most skilled player

Griff83 · Post #1 » by **Griff83** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:30 pm

who do you think would be ranked as the #1 overall skilled player in the league? So youd taken all the different aspects into account.

hitting, Power, speed, fielding, arm.

TR50 · Post #2 » by **TR50** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:15 pm

I'd think Albert Pujols, Jose Reyes or Hanley Ramirez

vaff87 · Post #3 » by **vaff87** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:32 pm

A-Rod

His 162 game averages

.306 avg 44 HR 128 RBI 128 R 191 H 23 Stl .389 OBP .578 SLG .967 OPS

He's:
-hit more than 50 HR 3 time, hit more than 40 8 times, and led the AL in HR 5 times
- driven in more than 150 runs and the led the league in RBI twice
- led the league in runs 5 times
- led the league in total bases 4 times
- hit 50 doubles, which led the league
- had a 40-40 season
- won a batting title
- gotten 200 hits 3 times, and led the league once
- slugged over .600 7 times
- finished with an OPS over 1.000 6 times
- won multiple gold gloves at the toughest defensive position
- a 3 time MVP winner(finsihed 2nd twice as well)
- and a 10 time all star
- a 9 time silver slugger winner.

He's done pretty much every thing statistically, there may not be one single thing where A-Rod hasn't had at least one huge season.

The_Hater · Post #4 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:32 pm

Puhols is a great hitter but pretty one-dimensional in the field and not especially fast.

ARod is the first person that jumps to mind. He was a gold-glove caliber shortstop with a great arm, hits for average and power and could always run. He might have the best package of skills ever seen on an MLB player.

Barry in his prime was that type of player too. He could have played CF if he wanted too.

And people always talk about how Ichiro could hit for power if he wanted too and hits balls out for fun during BP. He shows everything else on a daily basis.

Griff83 · Post #5 » by **Griff83** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:39 pm

heres how MLB scouts have ranked the players in skill categories

Batting
Category First place Second place
Best hitter Ichiro Suzuki/Alex Rodriguez
Best clutch hitter David Ortiz/Albert Pujols
Best power hitter Ryan Howard/Alex Rodriguez
Best bunter Juan Pierre/Ichiro Suzuki
Best bat control Ichiro Suzuki/Placido Polanco

Category First place Second place
Best fastball Justin Verlander Joba Chamberlain
Best curve Josh Beckett Four players tied
Best splitter Jonathan Papelbon John Smoltz
Best command Greg Maddux Tom Glavine
Best competitor Jake Peavy Tie: Josh Beckett/Roy Oswalt

Category First place Second place
Best infielder Jose Reyes/Yuniesky Betancourt
Best outfielder Ichiro Suzuki/Torii Hunter
Best arm Ichiro Suzuki/Jeff Francoeur
Best at turning DP Orlando Hudson Tie: Placido Polanco/Luis Castillo
Best picker at first base Tie: Derrek Lee/Todd Helton
Best at defending bunt Tie: Adrian Beltre/Ryan Zimmerman

Category First place Second place
Fastest runner Carl Crawford/Ichiro Suzuki
Best basestealer Jose Reyes/Ichiro Suzuki
Best baserunner Ichiro Suzuki/Jose Reyes
Best picker at first base Derrek Lee/Todd Helton
Best at breaking up DP Tie: Gary Sheffield/Carl Crawford

so overall they had Ichiro as the most all around skilled player.

stro4swift · Post #6 » by **stro4swift** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:57 pm

Interesting stuff right there Griff, the only category in which Ichiro isn't great is the homers but I often hear that if he wanted he could hit 30+ every season but that it's just not his game. Whether it's true or not Ichiro is a beast!

A-Rod is the most skilled player IMO. Even though young players like Reyes, Ramirez and Wright are up there too, being great all-around athletes.

Holmes · Post #7 » by **Holmes** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:50 pm

Vladimir Guerrero was one of the best all-around skilled players.

Guerrero may not come close to Rodriguez's production (the meat and potatoes of HR, RBIs and Runs) but he actually is 20 points ahead of Rodriguez in career .AVG and ahead of Rodriguez in career .OBP, .SLG, and .OPS.

Guerrero was a monster back in those Expos days and was the epitome of "five-tool".

stro4swift · Post #8 » by **stro4swift** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:07 pm

Holmes wrote:Guerrero was a monster back in those Expos days and was the epitome of "five-tool".

Agreed, when I saw this topic I immediately thought about Vlad. But since he doesn't steal bases anymore I thought it wouldn't be right to pick him. He sure still is a great hitter and has a cannon arm.

The season he came 1 HR short of the 40/40 club, he was the best in the league. But nobody would care since he was playing for the Expos...

Post #9 » by **OldNo7** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:39 pm

Right now its A-Rod.

Bonds in his thinner prime was likely THE most all around skilled player, perhaps close to ever.

I have a soft spot for Griffey, especially the Seattle version.

In the coming years, I wouldnt be surprised to see David Wright get some votes.

I am really surprised that we have this many posts, and there havent been any homers saying Rios. Ahhh, the lovely difference between the Jays and Raps boards.

TR50 · Post #10 » by **TR50** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:54 am

whosthebosh? wrote:Right now its A-Rod.

Bonds in his thinner prime was likely THE most all around skilled player, perhaps close to ever.

I have a soft spot for Griffey, especially the Seattle version.

In the coming years, I wouldnt be surprised to see David Wright get some votes.

I am really surprised that we have this many posts, and there havent been any homers saying Rios. Ahhh, the lovely difference between the Jays and Raps boards.

just wait til we get that pennant

if we ever do...... :wink:

PopAGat · Post #11 » by **PopAGat** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:08 pm

Alex Rodriguez.