Theriot sucks.. Soriano is leading off tomorrow

treyZz · Post #1 » by **treyZz** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:02 pm

From Lou's mouth.

Soriano back to leadoff & Theriot moves to the 2 hole.

Move Theriot to the bench, imo. Guy sucks. Me and GYBE have been saying it for a while.. I'm ready to see Cedeno everyday.

SportsWorld · Post #2 » by **SportsWorld** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:03 pm

I'm ready to see Roberts.

The Sheik · Post #3 » by **The Sheik** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:31 pm

treyZz wrote:From Lou's mouth.

Soriano back to leadoff & Theriot moves to the 2 hole.

Move Theriot to the bench, imo. Guy sucks. Me, The Sheik and GYBE have been saying it for a while.. I'm ready to see Cedeno everyday.

fixed.

FRKMSTR · Post #4 » by **FRKMSTR** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:00 pm

Well Soriano hasn't been tearing it up either!!

We are already seeing the affect of not having a true leadoff hitter, they need to call the Orioles and let them have anyone from the minor league club they want for Roberts.

Post #5 » by **GYBE** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:13 pm

What in God's name is the point of this? Both Soriano and Theriot are terrible choices to have at the top of the order, switching them around accomplishes nothing. Instead of doing this pointless little switch, why not implement some actual change?

Put Fukudome up top to show these tools how to approach an at-bat. The contrast between how Fukudome and Soriano work a pitcher is startling, especially when you consider it's Fukudome's first series ever.

The Sheik · Post #6 » by **The Sheik** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 11:34 pm

GYBE wrote:What in God's name is the point of this? Both Soriano and Theriot are terrible choices to have at the top of the order, switching them around accomplishes nothing. Instead of doing this pointless little switch, why not implement some actual change?

Put Fukudome up top to show these tools how to approach an at-bat. The contrast between how Fukudome and Soriano work a pitcher is startling, especially when you consider it's Fukudome's first series ever.

I agree, but if it really does make that much of a difference for Soriano to lead off(mentally) then I rather have Soriano bat lead off and deal with his high K mark.

The problem is Pie and Theriot both have to bat 8th, but only one of them can. If Soriano is leading off then Theriot needs to be batting 8th.

I personally want:

Soriano
Fukudome
Lee
Ramierez
DeRosa
Soto
Pie
Theriot

Jakespeare · Post #7 » by **Jakespeare** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:57 am

SW, Roberts won't be a Cub. As for Theriot, move him to the eight hole. He can't hit a lick.

Posey H8er · Post #8 » by **Posey H8er** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:48 am

GYBE wrote:What in God's name is the point of this? Both Soriano and Theriot are terrible choices to have at the top of the order, switching them around accomplishes nothing. Instead of doing this pointless little switch, why not implement some actual change?

Put Fukudome up top to show these tools how to approach an at-bat. The contrast between how Fukudome and Soriano work a pitcher is startling, especially when you consider it's Fukudome's first series ever.

Apparently Soriano is doing bad becuase he is not "comfortable" at the two spot. So Lou is starting to play musical chairs with the lineup to hopefully get his bat going.

And I have also been calling for Theriot's head.

My lineup would be either...

Soriano
Fukudome
Lee
Ramierez
DeRosa
Soto
Pie
Cedeno

...or some combination with Fukudome leading off.

Jo Jo English · Post #9 » by **Jo Jo English** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 3:48 am

I know I haven't been saying that Theriot shouldn't be hitting lead-off here on the board, but you haven't been around me in real life for the last few days.

In other words, add me to the list of people who want an actual lead-off hitter.

(with Fuku #2)

Posey H8er · Post #10 » by **Posey H8er** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 4:39 am

Against lefties I want to see what Reed Johnson can do at the leadoff spot.

Post #11 » by **GYBE** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 4:47 am

Posey H8er wrote:Apparently Soriano is doing bad becuase he is not "comfortable" at the two spot. So Lou is starting to play musical chairs with the lineup to hopefully get his bat going.

I get that, but here's my point. We cannot watch Soriano leadoff for the next 6 years. A precedent needs to be set or we'll be stuck with his inefficient play destroying our offense.

He's making $17 million. If he can't bat anywhere but leadoff (where he's a liability), I'd rather not play him out of spite. The organization needs to show that they understand how to score runs, moving Fukudome up at least points out the proper way for a 1-2 hitter to approach an AB.

What a terrible, terrible signing this will be. We couldn't come up with money for Beltran, but they were happy to give one of the worst contracts in baseball to Alfonso. For the next six years, he'll be one of the highest paid players. And for that money, you get a low OBP along with declining power and speed. Oh, and he can only bat leadoff. And if the contract looks bad now...I mean, imagine how it looks 5 years from now.

Posey H8er · Post #12 » by **Posey H8er** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 5:07 am

I don't know how this would look but if you put Soriano in the 4 hole he could see better pitches with Ramirez protecting him if he hits fifth. Still that spot is technically an RBI spot, where Ramirez fits well.

Despite Soriano's low OBP, he is a power hitter with some speed. The main phrase there being power hitter. The Cubs need to learn that and place him in the order accordingly.

IbreakNeckZ101 · Post #13 » by **IbreakNeckZ101** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:50 pm

god.. soriano was the biggest mistake..

#1TKfan · Post #14 » by **#1TKfan** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:30 pm

Mr. Wonderful wrote:SW, Roberts won't be a Cub. As for Theriot, move him to the eight hole. He can't hit a lick.

yet, he gets on base yesterday and soriano doesnt. yeah, that makes sense.

#1TKfan · Post #15 » by **#1TKfan** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:37 pm

if theriot is not going to be the lead off i say try fuku at the 1 and put Dlee at the 2.

fuku
lee
ramirez
sori