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0-7; worst start since 2003 when we went 0-9.

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0-7; worst start since 2003 when we went 0-9. 

Post#1 » by m23uza1hem36 » Fri Apr 4, 2008 9:39 pm

It's really bothering me knowing that we are 0-6, we're not hitting, we're not pitching, are bullpen is just straight up terrible thus far. Rodney is going to be out loner, Zumaya gets hurt playing playstation and picking up boxes. I still believe we are in contention, I was wrong when I said earlier I think we won't. I do think we will I just don't know what is happening, we've lost 6 straight HOME games, It's terrible especially since I went to 3/6 and I did not yell in joy or get "into" the game in any of them.

ANYWAY...

What is really wrong with this team right now?

Upcoming schedule, 12/14 games away, meeting with the Red Sox's, the Indians, and the Blue Ray's, I hope we can pick up a lot of those games and maybe get some momentum entering next month.

Bad loss to Boston, we had a ton LOB and a ton of chances with good counts. Now I'm "panicking" about this team.
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Post#2 » by ajaX82 » Sat Apr 5, 2008 3:34 pm

Its still very early to overreact quite yet.

But it is still disconcerting to the say the least.
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Post#3 » by chrbal » Sat Apr 5, 2008 5:13 pm

4 games in and we're out of contention???? well thats it, lets start trading these guys for future prospects.
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Post#4 » by Snakebites » Sat Apr 5, 2008 11:43 pm

Just to expand on what others have said, there are 162 games in a season.

Would you post something like this if the Pistons had lost the first 2 or 3 games of the season (actually, I guess many would)? Thats roughly what we are looking at here.

Even good teams have 4-5 game stretches were they look like they can't do anything in this sport. No reason to freak just because it happened to us in the first 5 games.

Nonetheless, each loss worries me a little more than the previous one, and its not like were losing to juggernauts here, either. These are teams that we'll be playing a lot throughout the season and SHOULD be able to beat at a solid clip.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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Post#5 » by pistons773 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 2:43 am

The offense part of our struggles can't last too long. We are so stacked that statistically this won't last. Many of the Tiger players that are struggling are doing some really uncharacteristic things (Magglio with serial ground out double plays, Guillen with fielding errors). The concerning issue for me is pitching. I just worry that we still don't have a bullpen and I think there needs to be moves to fix that or we are going to struggle much more. 0-6 is definitely disappointing, but it's hard to get down on this team looking at the potential we have for this season.
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Post#6 » by ajaX82 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:07 am

Well the White Sox beat the piss out of us tonite....super
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Post#7 » by A.J. » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:20 am

Injuries is a problem. Hopefully when everone gets healthy you guys will play better.
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Post#8 » by srt4b » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:38 pm

Something like only 2 teams have ever went 0-5 and made the playoffs. None have ever won the pennant.
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Post#9 » by Snakebites » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:01 pm

^I recall hearing the same thing.

We'll be going up against history from here on out.
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Post#10 » by HeroicKennedy » Tue Apr 8, 2008 9:10 pm

Get ready to change that to 0-7.
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Post#11 » by m23uza1hem36 » Tue Apr 8, 2008 11:47 pm

Yeah, it's actually 0-6, two team's have gone to the playoffs just NOT the world series. I don't care really of "winning it all" this year because we have a future a head of us, though I believe this is our best year since our payroll is so high and we have the lineup and basically the starting pitching...no bull pen still bothers me.

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Post#12 » by pistons773 » Wed Apr 9, 2008 5:36 pm

Pistons#1 wrote:^I recall hearing the same thing.

We'll be going up against history from here on out.


For some reason, this stat about no team making the World Series after 0-7 start doesn't bother me at all. History is the least of our concerns. I wonder if there was ever a more stacked line-up in the Majors to go 0-7. Doubtful the other underachievers in history were as strong as this team.

Our pitching is definitely bothering me. It seems like other things are just accumulating on top of the woes as well--errors, injuries, etc. If our batting turns around and we develop some semblence of a bullpen that doesn't involve Jason f-ing Grilli, I think we can go all the way still.
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Post#13 » by Snakebites » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:46 pm

^Perhaps.

The fact that the Yankees, Red Sox, and Indians aren't off to great starts either helps our cause as well, one of those will be the team anyone in the Central or East will have to beat out for a playoff spot (I can only hope we'll recover enough to be in a position to do so).

I said it on the general board, I'll say it here. Its not the hole were in that worries me, but the fact that we're still digging and there hasn't been any indication we'll stop digging.

We shall see, though.
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Post#14 » by m23uza1hem36 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:33 am

Looking good right now,
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Post#15 » by el loco » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:17 am

Congrats on getting off of the snide. The Tigers will go on a good run. There is way to much talent on the club for them not to. I still think you can take the division, but your pitching has got to pick up the pace for that to happen.
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Post#16 » by Snakebites » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:51 am

^Well, we lost another one today.

Our lineup will get going. I am absolutely certain on that point.

But there are too many questions with our pitching for me to be sold on our chances. The Rangers of the 90's had some terrific hitters, too. But they never went anywhere, and it was mostly because of pitching.

I pray that isn't the case this year.

Ironic, I remember a few years back when our pitching was mowing everyone down and our offense was the liability. Odd the way things can shift, but unfortunate.

I'd take a great, balanced pitching staff over a great lineup anyday.
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Post#17 » by el loco » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:02 am

Pistons#1 wrote:^Well, we lost another one today.

Our lineup will get going. I am absolutely certain on that point.

But there are too many questions with our pitching for me to be sold on our chances. The Rangers of the 90's had some terrific hitters, too. But they never went anywhere, and it was mostly because of pitching.

I pray that isn't the case this year.

Ironic, I remember a few years back when our pitching was mowing everyone down and our offense was the liability. Odd the way things can shift, but unfortunate.

I'd take a great, balanced pitching staff over a great lineup anyday.


I don't know. The reds have been getting excellent pitching so far this year, and absolutley zero run support, which is strange for the Reds because it is usually the other way around. I know the losses don't feel any better.

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