Bulls/Grizzlies/Rockets - TMAC 2 the Bluff City/Gasol to CHI

pardon_my_interruption · Post #1 » by **pardon_my_interruption** » Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:06 pm

Chicago Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Players
Kirk Hinrich
Joe Smith
Tyrus Thomas
Viktor Khryapa
Chris Duhon
2008 1st (lottery protected)

Incoming Players
Pau Gasol
Juan Carlos Navarro
Damon Stoudamire
Steve Novak

PG - Ben Gordon/Damon Stoudamire
SG - Thabo Sefolosha/Juan Carlos Navarro
SF - Luol Deng/Adrian Griffin/Novak
PF - Pau Gasol/Andres Nocioni
C - Ben Wallace/Joakim Noah/Aaron Gray

Memphis Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Players
Pau Gasol
Mike Miller
Juan Carlos Navarro
Damon Stoudamire

Incoming Players
Tracy McGrady
Rafer Alston
Chris Duhon
Tyrus Thomas
Viktor Khryapa

PG - Mike Conley, Jr./Kyle Lowry/Alston
SG - Tracy McGrady/Chris Duhon/Jeremy Richardson
SF - Rudy Gay/Viktor Khryapa/Casey Jacobsen
PF - Tyrus Thomas/Hakim Warrick/Brian Cardinal
C - Darko Milicic/Stromile Swift/Brown

Houston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Players
Tracy McGrady
Rafer Alston
Steve Novak

Incoming Players
Kirk Hinrich
Mike Miller
Joe Smith
2008 1st (lottery protected) via Chicago

PG - Kirk Hinrich/Mike James/Brooks
SG - Bonzi Wells/Luther Head/Francis
SF - Shane Battier/Mike Miller
PF - Chuck Hayes/Luis Scola
C - Yao Ming/Joe Smith/Dikembe Mutombo

Cliff Levingston · Post #2 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:10 pm

Not bad, for how big it is.

pardon_my_interruption · Post #3 » by **pardon_my_interruption** » Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:12 pm

I'm surprised myself it worked with Hinrich's BYC coming into play.

But Hinrich has a nice sized contract which makes it a bit easier to come within the mandated salary range.

RoxFan08 · Post #4 » by **RoxFan08** » Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:31 pm

As a Houston fan, I don't want to trade Mac until he gets back on the court. I need to see what he can do (if he can do anything at all) before he gets traded. If he does well, his value will inflate, and we probably won't be trading him anyway. If he doesn't, its not like his value is going to get a lot worse.

And I'm really not impressed with Hinrich this season. We all know he's better than Rafer, but he's playing even worse. Not much of an incentive to trade for him.

Edit: I'd rather just deal with Memphis directly and try to get Miller/Conley from you guys in a Tmac trade. With the above trade, I think it would be fair to insist on a lower protection (top 5 maybe) as well.

pardon_my_interruption · Post #5 » by **pardon_my_interruption** » Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:31 pm

Houston? Rockets fans?

Post #6 » by **boogiesdad** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:10 am

PMI i think you have winner here

GREAT JOB

rowdystylz · Post #7 » by **rowdystylz** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:43 am

What exactly is Houston's incentive here to take a massive downgrade from TMac to Miller? Hinrich hasn't been much better than Alston this year so his trade value is crap right now, especially with his new contract. Joe Smith would be our 2nd highest payed big through next year but 4th on the depth chart at best, not good value. And the first is even lotto protected. Nothing here that makes us better or will even help us rebuild. We'd just be mediocre which we can do anyway while TMac gets his knee rested.

IPC075009 · Post #8 » by **IPC075009** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:06 am

i hate it as a bulls fan. I think we give up way too much for Gasol basically. Take Thomas out and put in Noah, and i like it a little more tho.

pardon_my_interruption · Post #9 » by **pardon_my_interruption** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:18 pm

IPC075009 wrote:i hate it as a bulls fan. I think we give up way too much for Gasol basically. Take Thomas out and put in Noah, and i like it a little more tho.

That's doable from Memphis' end.

I thought the Bulls would prefer to keep Noah. Personally I'd rather have Noah over Thomas. Noah's a smarter player.

pardon_my_interruption · Post #10 » by **pardon_my_interruption** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:19 pm

rowdystylz wrote: We'd just be mediocre which we can do anyway while TMac gets his knee rested.

For the 10th time in the past 3 seasons.

You're not getting top dollar for McGrady.

This is good return for the Rockets in my opinion. Probably one of the better packages that a GM would realistically help Houston get in a deal for Mac.

rowdystylz · Post #11 » by **rowdystylz** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:19 pm

pardon_my_interruption wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

For the 10th time in the past 3 seasons.

You're not getting top dollar for McGrady.

This is good return for the Rockets in my opinion. Probably one of the better packages that a GM would realistically help Houston get in a deal for Mac.

Then why trade him when his value is so low? And who says we are trying to trade him anyway? He'll be back in 7-10 days and the reports that he's unhappy are total BS- Sam Smith is full of it. There is absolutely 0 incentive for Houston to make this deal.

dark-child · Post #12 » by **dark-child** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:05 pm

PMI you obviously are not a Michael Heisley fan but do you think he could be convinced to trade for McGrady after his experiences with Bryan Reeves and Michael Dickerson? It may be a very hard sale even if his injuries are not as severe as those other guys, but even the possibility may cause a lot of apprehension.

pardon_my_interruption · Post #13 » by **pardon_my_interruption** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:13 pm

True. That could be a factor.