Trade Rumor?? Redd, CV, 1st for TMac+Bonzi

[75totheMACCfund]

What about Yi and bad contracts for Tmac? Does Houston seize that opportunity to become China's second national team? Our offense would be ridiculous with Mo/Redd/McGrady/Villanueva/Bogut. Perhaps #1 in the league. We wouldn't contend, but we would be extremely fun to watch.

we'd be turning Houston into a conglomerate for chinese business opportunities. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the Senator is business savy enough to see the increase of value that Houston has experienced with Yao being there and will not trade the excess business profits for a team that "would be extremely fun to watch"

[ReasonablySober]

Redd and Charlie for McGrady and Wells. I'd do that one. I wouldn't consider that same deal with our pick thrown in.

We're headed for the lotto in a draft that's loaded at the wing positions.

[75totheMACCfund]

I don't like the trade as reported for many of the same reasons as others. TMac's inability to stay healthy, inability to win in the playoffs, and his general sulking that seems to occur at multiple destinations now (TOR, ORL, and now HOU)


Save for last year Redd is the picture of health and being positive (or so we think?)

But Redd has not led us anywhere and TMac is a superior talent. One that actually makes free agents listen to us.

If they want a first I the only way I'd do the deal is Redd/Gadz/1st (protected) for TMac and Battier. They probably balk and hang up. But I refuse to give up Redd and a first without also making them take a bad deal off our hands and giving us a starting SF

Mo/Bell
TMac/Bell/Mase
Battier/Simmons/Mase
Yi/CV
Bogut/JV

That would be a playoff team if TMac doesn't miss half the year. But I'd doubt they'd do this deal.

I'd throw in CV to get this deal done.


Mo/Bell
TMac/Bell/Mase
Battier/Simmons/Mase
Yi/Whatever
Bogut/JV

[75totheMACCfund]

i don't think they trade Battier though.

[Dags]

Only if the pick is lotto protected. No way I'd give up an unprotected pick for such an injury-prone player.

[MikeIsGood]

No way in hell do I want to give up an unprotected first when we suck so bad. We need that pick.

[carmelbrownqueen]

This deal is terrible. I'd rather have Artest then Fat Wells and Tracy McInjured. Also, TMac would make a huge fuss about coming here.

I don't want Artest and his issues, Fat Wells or Tracy McInjured. If Tracy Mcgrady wasn't so injury prone then maybe I would jump at the idea of getting him.. but if fans on this board don't like Michael Redd's effort on D, then when in the hell would we ever even think about Tracy?

[THE DINJ]

Another player that can't get us out of the first round, only this time with an attitude?

No thx.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Listen... TMac is one of my favorite players in the NBA and he is CLEARLY a much, much better player than Redd.

I don't do this deal though, especially with the first thrown in. T-Mac is an amazing player when healthy, but he just will never be healthy for a long stretch of time.... And even with a healthy T-Mac I doubt this team can make it to the playoffs regardless with all of the crap (Simmons, Bell, Mason, Gadzuric) still on the team.

I honestly wouldn't even do Redd for T-Mac straight up anymore, because T-Mac is just never healthy... Ever. He is a great player, he can be a superstar and is (like I said) clearly a better player than Michael Redd... But he is just way, way too injury prone.

Not to mention this takes away our draft pick from next season, which we desperately need to add depth to this team and hopefully get a starting callibur SF rather than the 15 million dollars worth of junk.

[rocket_zoom]

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You mean move the ball as in shoots 2+ more times then Redd a game and averages less points per game and shoots a lower percentage in every category?

Gotcha!

If you watch enough Rockets games (and take my word of advice because I watch more Rockets games than you), TMac does 2 things that Michael Redd wouldn't in Houston's offense:

1) TMac shares the ball with his teammates.

2) TMac defers shots to Yao.

Redd will do neither of these with the Rockets. Thus, Alderman would never accept the trade with Redd. Alderman's offense is about ball movement. Nice rumour, but it is just that ... a rumour that will never materialize as long as Alderman is the coach.

BTW, I'm not dissing Redd's ability - it's just that he is a bad fit with Alderman's offense and he isn't an Alderman type player.

[europa]

Two things:

1. Redd has done a much better job of sharing and distributing the ball this season than ever before. He's clearly improved in terms of being more willing to share the ball.

2. Redd has never played with a player anywhere close to Yao in terms of talent. So one can't say Redd won't defer to Yao because he hasn't deferred to Bogut, for example. Yao happens to be A LOT better than Bogut. There's nothing to indicate Redd won't defer shots if he's finally teamed with a player as good or better than him - something that has never happened since he became a starter with the Bucks.

[dedned]

anyone who wont do this trade because of the 1st round pick is just plain stupid. I wont do it cause ive still banned she-mac from milfwaukee. Honestly if u have a chance to get a superstar, especially in the NBA, you do it.

[BuckFan25226]

Two things:

1. Redd has done a much better job of sharing and distributing the ball this season than ever before. He's clearly improved in terms of being more willing to share the ball.

2. Redd has never played with a player anywhere close to Yao in terms of talent. So one can't say Redd won't defer to Yao because he hasn't deferred to Bogut, for example. Yao happens to be A LOT better than Bogut. There's nothing to indicate Redd won't defer shots if he's finally teamed with a player as good or better than him - something that has never happened since he became a starter with the Bucks.

RocketZoom, what he said.

[BrewersGM]

Some guy in the Rockets forum said Yi for Tmac! Wow! I thoght we had some......

[75totheMACCfund]

Redd will never be able to take a team to the next level being the star. Look at him on Team USA, he flourished. Put him back as the alpha dog and he'll eventually revert back to head down chucking. I think he'd do quite well with another star like Yao.

[worthlessBucks]

Interesting, but a few thoughts. I agree that the first is a real killer, especially since I believe this team isn't going to recover to the playoffs (even with a McGrady). Second, anybody else remember those ramblings about how McGrady wants to play baseball once his contract is over with? Maybe once he hears about a deal to Milwaukee, he'll move those plans to the forefront.

But I like this, Redd rumors. May the highest bidder step forward.

[Yao_noodle]

Yao needs TMAC's play making skills.
Given Redd, Yao will be a stiff shooting under 40%.

Why would Rockets do this trade?

[Sigra]

Sure. But only if pick is top 10 protected

[Newz]

Two things:

1. Redd has done a much better job of sharing and distributing the ball this season than ever before. He's clearly improved in terms of being more willing to share the ball.

2. Redd has never played with a player anywhere close to Yao in terms of talent. So one can't say Redd won't defer to Yao because he hasn't deferred to Bogut, for example. Yao happens to be A LOT better than Bogut. There's nothing to indicate Redd won't defer shots if he's finally teamed with a player as good or better than him - something that has never happened since he became a starter with the Bucks.

To add to that, Redd has never played under a great coach since he has been relied on as a star. Yes, he played under George Karl, but that's when he was still coming off of the bench.

I think Adelman would demand that Redd defer to Yao... He has already had a very Redd like player in Peja and he played team ball just fine.

I agree completely with your points Europa... Just thought I'd tack that one on to the end.

[europa]

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To add to that, Redd has never played under a great coach since he has been relied on as a star. Yes, he played under George Karl, but that's when he was still coming off of the bench.

I think Adelman would demand that Redd defer to Yao... He has already had a very Redd like player in Peja and he played team ball just fine.

I agree completely with your points Europa... Just thought I'd tack that one on to the end.

And it's an excellent point. I've always said that Redd would not only benefit from having more talent on the team with him but a proven head coach as well. Unfortunately, he's had neither with the Bucks.