Game Thread Blazers at Bulls TNT 7:00ct

[Polynice4Pippen]

Duhon needs to sit.

[theanimal23]

ben wallace putting in points for us? wow, i'm at a loss for words for the 2nd night in a row.

He's not playing bad or great. He's playing solid I would say. Still needs to hit open layups that he was missing in the 1st half.

[Bull Shak]

Gordon is so going to come in for the kill in a few minutes.

[umfan83]

Please win this game by 30, and call it a statement game that the Bulls are back.


But more likely, the Bulls will go on a really cold stretch, fall behind by 5 and lose in the final minutes

[JeremyB0001]

How convenient of you to leave off his "close" precentage that year. It was .333, btw. Or his inside OR close percentage this year.

You know who's a better finisher this year? Joe Smith, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, and likely more, his stats THIS season are beyond awful in the paint.

No, it's .489 according to 82 games.

http://www.82games.com/0708/07CHI11A.HTM

I "left off" last year because I'll look to the 967 sample size over the 426 minute sample size every single time. Also, I don't know precisely how 82 games charts their shots but I think the inside figure includes something like a hook shot from eight feet out which is different than finishing IMO. Obviously scouting observations play an important role here and while Tyrus hasn't always taken the ball up as hard as I'd like this season, in his NBA career I've seen him take the ball up hard most of the time which usually results in a basket or a dunk. In contrast, I've seen Joe Smith and Noah miss dunks on more than one occasion. Even if they are better, I still don't see how your description of Tyrus as a "terrible finisher" when he's in fact one of the best on the team - a team with a finisher who actually is terrible - makes any kind of sense whatsoever.

If we're going ot overanalyses Tyrus's every fleeting moment of PT, let's at least do it properly.

Tyrus did 5 things, in this order:

I appreciate your attempt to take a straightforward look at what actually happened but some of the plays didn't look the way you've described them to me.

b) Undermined his own good work by going straight back up versus 3 players when not near the basket[/quote]

What constitutes near the basket? I think he was in the paint.

c) Ddn't get within 20 feet of his man Outlaw on an open jumpshot

The play-by-play shows Outlaw hitting two jumpers while Tyrus was in the game. For the only one I remember Tyrus doubled off the screen - I suspect he was instructed to do this since he did it every time Outlaw set a screen and I've never seen him do it before - closed out and was about three or four feet away from Outlaw as he released and made a jumper from the top key, a few feet in front of the three point line. Are you talking about this other jumper Outlaw hit? Was Tyrus supposed to be guarding him? Where was Tyrus on the floor and what was he doing?

One note on c.. there was a defensive switch on that play. Tyrus had to run inside with somebody else's guy who was running open to the hoop.

Nevermind, sk33 has cleared it up.

5) Ran into Outlaw for no real reason

Of course there was a reason. He went for the steal and almost had it but the ball didn't quite come out of Outlaw's hands and Tyrus' momentum carried him into Outlaw for a foul.

[Doofer]

A bit quick there Duhon....

[newskoolbulls]

Cdoo finally lol

[theanimal23]

Please win this game by 30, and call it a statement game that the Bulls are back.


But more likely, the Bulls will go on a really cold stretch, fall behind by 5 and lose in the final minutes

If beating Portland is a statement game, we have fallen off the map as a good basketball team. I want the win, but it wont be a statement victory.

I like the way Outlaw is developing. He's becoming a solid player.

[Shill]

Damn, Aldridge has 0 points???

[JeremyB0001]

By the way, if you don't think Wallace did anything, watch again. Aldridge can't get the ball in the post with Wallace on him, and so he's standing outside clanking. He hasn't scored a point and Wallace factors in that.

Smith did the same thing. Let's play him at center and give the young guys some burn.

[newskoolbulls]

Man it really is dead quiet in the UC, damn.

[Ben]

Aldridge is legit, no doubt. But Joe Smith is killing him tonight.

Haven't read the whole game thread, so maybe this has been covered already.

But if WE had a talented 2nd year player who was 0-6 with 2 turnovers and who was getting burned by his counterpart, we would have yanked him LONG before he had the chance to rack up those stats-- and long before he had a chance to redeem himself, as I'm betting that Aldridge will do before the game's over.

[BrooklynBulls]

Attention posters. Jeremy's excuses for Tyrus have leaked everywhere. Please don't step in them. And thank you for foruming with us.

[NLK]

WE NEED NOAH!

[Doofer]

Damn, Aldridge has 0 points???

I see no problem with that...

[theanimal23]

Wallace is having a good game for those in question. But his 'good' now is what used to be average in Detroit.

[girlygirl]

Halftime at the Orange Bowl:

Kansas 17 Virginia Tech 7

[umfan83]

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If beating Portland is a statement game, we have fallen off the map as a good basketball team. I want the win, but it wont be a statement victory.

I like the way Outlaw is developing. He's becoming a solid player.

Well blowing out the current media darlings and the "new Bulls" would turn some heads and announce to the rest of the NBA that the Bulls are back.

[kulaz3000]

Duhon followed up a good performance on Roy by bad defense on him early in the second half. Roy is starting to play more aggressively and now Portland are riding on his back and getting back in the game.

[NLK]

we need to stop turning the ball over, and get some points in transition.