who's better in NBA history than Antawn?

malan331 · Post #1 » by **malan331** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:41 pm

there's no one even close to AJ in one single facet of the game. when he launches that floating, off balance scoop shot from the baseline, it's the only wizard that wouldn't make me cringe. who's been better at the floating scoop?? only two i can think of are wilt the stilt and ice man gervin. who am i missing?

MJG · Post #2 » by **MJG** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:51 pm

Kwame Brown.

daSwami · Post #3 » by **daSwami** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:51 pm

Adrian Dantley and magic johnson come to mind as guys who threw up (and made) some garbage shots from time to time.

malan331 · Post #4 » by **malan331** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:58 pm

MJG wrote:Kwame Brown.

lmao......how could i omit him!!!

Post #5 » by **pineappleheadindc** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:01 pm

Bernard King had some wild off-balance shots that you just knew were money when it left his hand.

Post #6 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:26 pm

pineappleheadindc wrote:Bernard King had some wild off-balance shots that you just knew were money when it left his hand.

Not to mention that King would get the nod over Jamison in the "Best Smile" contest.

Post #7 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:37 pm

King and also Alex English. English was also just an uncanny inside scorer.

kblack · Post #8 » by **kblack** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 5:31 pm

pineappleheadindc wrote:Bernard King had some wild off-balance shots that you just knew were money when it left his hand.

Antawn is the modern day Bernard King. King perfected that game.

fishercob · Post #9 » by **fishercob** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:06 pm

dandridge10, do you care to weigh in on this?

dobrojim · Post #10 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:21 pm

fishercob wrote:dandridge10, do you care to weigh in on this?

Good call fishercob, Bobby D was great at those wrong foot shots

he only played here a few years but was key to the championship
run through the playoffs particularly how well he defended Doc J.

one wonders if the case for his jersey going up isn't worthy...
maybe after Chenier?

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #11 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:10 pm

dobrojim wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Good call fishercob, Bobby D was great at those wrong foot shots

he only played here a few years but was key to the championship
run through the playoffs particularly how well he defended Doc J.

one wonders if the case for his jersey going up isn't worthy...
maybe after Chenier?

No doubt... Bobby D was the most unconventional, lethal scorer I've ever seen.

go'stags · Post #12 » by **go'stags** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:56 pm

You all need to show Ruffin a little more respect ...

hands11 · Post #13 » by **hands11** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:03 pm

You'll nailed everyone I could think of.

The original AD and his incredible butt power. That guy couldn't get 2 inches off the floor but would pound the rock and get you off balance with a series of moves and pump fakes then he would flip some AJ shot on you or get fouled doing it.

Bernard King was a favorite of mine when he came to Washington. After he had lost like 80% of the cartilage in I think it was his left knee, he couldn't get off the ground anymore so he had to be creative in getting his shot off. That is an amazing story. A man with so little cartilage in his knee and at his age was still a top NBA player. The young NBA players need to study these legends.

Bobby D was actually the first to come to mind though it's hard to remember all his moves since that was back in the 70's. I mostly remember him for the move he would do right down the middle with the ball over his head going from side to side as he floated to the hoop. I can remember being a kid on the black top coping his moves and yelling Bobby D as I went to the hoop.

Bullet Fever. Got to love it. Happens to me every year.

malan331 · Post #14 » by **malan331** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:23 pm

i'm showing my age also, but in '64-66, if wilt caught the ball in the post and somehow the fadeaway bank was not there, he would wheel into the paint and if he was too far away for the dunk, he had this sweet little finger roll/baby hook that he got to fall more times than not. he was fun to watch in the civic center. all 4400 fans per game!! :clap:

WaltCulver · Post #15 » by **WaltCulver** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:29 am

George McGinnis, who played alongside Julius Erving for 1975-78 76ers, was very much like Jamison as an unorthodox inside shooter. Like Jamison he often shot off the wrong foot, and often shot a little one-handed push shot from within 10 feet as he was coming DOWN. Also like Jamison, he was 6'-8", maybe a little more muscular, was a great rebounder, and not a great defender.
Unlike Jamison, he didn't have much of an outside shot, and was not seen as a team leader. The 76ers never went very far in the playoffs until he left and they got Moses Malone and Bobby Jones as the two frontcourt men to complement Erving.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #16 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:07 am

McGinnis was a bigger version of Super John Williamson with that one-handed shot. Strictly an offensive player. I think Jamison's way quicker that George was. I like the Bernard King comparison but he was just a much better slasher.

King was like a cross between Carmelo Anthony and Jamison. He had the funky off balance shots and floaters, but prior to his injury he would throw down quickly and even in traffic like Anthony can. Bernard in his prime had more quickness (but nowhere near the rebounding ability) and more powerful finishes than Jamison.

Jamison right now is probably the most unique scorer in the NBA. NOBODY has the flip shots and the mini-hook shots as smooth as his. He's also a very quick leaper on the second bound.

I hope the Wizards can really start winning games over this next 3-5 years, and if Jamison stays with them he can get some deserved recognition.

hands11 · Post #17 » by **hands11** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:52 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:McGinnis was a bigger version of Super John Williamson with that one-handed shot. Strictly an offensive player. I think Jamison's way quicker that George was. I like the Bernard King comparison but he was just a much better slasher.

King was like a cross between Carmelo Anthony and Jamison. He had the funky off balance shots and floaters, but prior to his injury he would throw down quickly and even in traffic like Anthony can. Bernard in his prime had more quickness (but nowhere near the rebounding ability) and more powerful finishes than Jamison.

Jamison right now is probably the most unique scorer in the NBA. NOBODY has the flip shots and the mini-hook shots as smooth as his. He's also a very quick leaper on the second bound.

I hope the Wizards can really start winning games over this next 3-5 years, and if Jamison stays with them he can get some deserved recognition.

Great review of the players.

It would be nice for the franchise if he does stick around and wins something of notice with this team. Then he can be the first star player in a while to retire a Wizard. He could end up being a player kids of today look back and remember just like some of us remember Bobby D, Phil or the Big E.

fishercob · Post #18 » by **fishercob** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:27 am

Wasn't McGinnis on that Pacer team that won an ABA title or two? Perhaps with Freddie Lewis as well?

cwb3 · Post #19 » by **cwb3** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:06 pm

Laron Profit.

I just wanted to type his name, its been awhile since he got any mention on the board.

Spence · Post #20 » by **Spence** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:57 pm

If you people knew anything about the Bullets or basketball, you would have mentioned The Secret Weapon -- Charles Jones -- by now. That cat was deadly from anywhere.