K.G/Kobe (West)>K.G/P2/Ray (East)?

[Man_Up]

Pierce & Allen> Kobe
2 stars are better than 1.

Pierce, Allen, and Garnett> Kobe & Garnett
3 stars are better than 2, and the Celtics complement each other better (even outside of the big 3).

[Basti]

put those big three in the west and that 27-3 is a dream for them..
KG and Kobe means bling bling..
AND MCHALE HELPED HIS CELTICS, our offer was waaaay better than the celtics offer!!!

even if it was better it wasn't waaaay better... and to me it wasn't better

BOS offer > LAL offer

get over it...

[JordansBulls]

The Boston trio compliments one another much better. All 3 of the superstars are hungry and they don't care he gets the ball.

[celticfan42487]

Man I forgot about Kwame beign included.

LA would need a beef Center to go along side Garnett since he doesn't guard centers on a regular basis.

Mihm and Pollard aren't the answer, Kwame would have been.

[G35]

We'll see. Playing in the regular season is one thing. But stars are made in the playoff's and superstars take over in the playoff's. When the Celtics play the Pistons or Spurs and they need to make baskets we'll see if they don't care who gets the ball. The Celtics have sacrificed a lot to get this trio together so they have all the pressure........

[wezbo]

i believe the deal was

Bynum Odom Kwame Critt 2 1st Rd picks for liek KG and Madsen

which leaves l.a with

Turiaf/Mihm
Garnett/Radmanovic
Ariza/Walton
Kobe/Sasha
Fisher/Farmar

that team could get it done, turiaf and kg would be a thin, but very beaslty PF/C, Ariza dn Kobe would [play air tight defence, and you got propbly the best veteran (non star) pg in fisher, and the lakers bench, which is top 3 in the league, would be the same, minus turiaf who would start

[JellosJigglin]

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Possible that the Lakers would have 24-27 wins.

But, your reasoning is flawed: you can't compare the current Lakers to the Lakers with Garnett because if the Lakers had gotten Garnett they would have given up some key components for why they are playing well- namely Odom, Bynum, and Kwame (though he hasn't done much this season).

With Garnett they would be a completely different team- very likely much better- but you can't gauge how many wins they might have had, by looking at the current Lakers.

Kwame has been out almost the entire season and Odom has been playing the worst basketball of his Laker career. The reason the Lakers are playing better this season is because of their bench and Bynum. Also consider the Lakers had one of the toughest schedules to open the season while Boston had a much easier schedule.

Replacing those 3 players you named with KG would have made the Lakers scary good. They'd have a record close to, or equal to Boston's but with a tougher schedule.

[bballcool34]

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Kwame has been out almost the entire season and Odom has been playing the worst basketball of his Laker career. The reason the Lakers are playing better this season is because of their bench and Bynum. Also consider the Lakers had one of the toughest schedules to open the season while Boston had a much easier schedule.

Replacing those 3 players you named with KG would have made the Lakers scary good. They'd have a record close to, or equal to Boston's but with a tougher schedule.

Like I said, they'd be a completely different team. Could they win 27 games? Definitely. But is it fair to use the current Laker's record as a benchmark? No, because players responsible for that success- Odom and Bynum- would be gone, as well as Kwame, which does hurt the Lakers in terms of depth at the C position.

And I know Odom's been having a bad season- relative to his past seasons- but compared to the other guys on the team besides Kobe, his impact his definitely still important.

[Mindflayer]

^ Exactly.

[Kobay]

Heres what the current celtics have:

Size (when you see their defense they completely clog the arc witht heir size)

Allstars(create mismatches all the time. And they have the leverage to play allstar against opposing team's crap second unit.)

Defense (Once again, their size and their ability to play zone defense so well makes a difficult time for opposing team driving and if outside shots aren't falling it ends up in a blow out.)
Offense (they are stacked with guys that can drain shots with hands in their face and guys who can hit the open three at high percentage.)

Clutchnes (ray ray need i say more?)

Blance (see above)


Now kobe may have some intangibles but in reality, teams that are stacked and balanced usually wins championships (pistons, spurs, bulls, lakers, etc infact probably every champ up to today) And with that kg/kobe you wouldn't have depth. It depends on who you could add to the kg/kobe roster, but realistically Celtcs are wayyyy better.

[PPAW4Life]

You already have an idea how Kobe and KG would be like.

You have Kobe and Odom who is KG ultra lite.

It wouldn't be that good....chemistry issues would always arise with Kobe and him jacking up shots all over the league with KG there would make it a disaster.

They'd probably 2 or 3 games better than they are now but that's about it.

[Kobay]

You already have an idea how Kobe and KG would be like.

You have Kobe and Odom who is KG ultra lite.

It wouldn't be that good....chemistry issues would always arise with Kobe and him jacking up shots all over the league with KG there would make it a disaster.

They'd probably 2 or 3 games better than they are now but that's about it.

If kg had problem with people jacking up shots he would have crushed paul periece's balls by now.

[NetsForce]

Heres what the current celtics have:

Size (when you see their defense they completely clog the arc witht heir size)

Allstars(create mismatches all the time. And they have the leverage to play allstar against opposing team's crap second unit.)

Defense (Once again, their size and their ability to play zone defense so well makes a difficult time for opposing team driving and if outside shots aren't falling it ends up in a blow out.)
Offense (they are stacked with guys that can drain shots with hands in their face and guys who can hit the open three at high percentage.)

Clutchnes (ray ray need i say more?)

Blance (see above)


Now kobe may have some intangibles but in reality, teams that are stacked and balanced usually wins championships (pistons, spurs, bulls, lakers, etc infact probably every champ up to today) And with that kg/kobe you wouldn't have depth. It depends on who you could add to the kg/kobe roster, but realistically Celtcs are wayyyy better.

I really don't see how you can argue that this hypothetical Kobe-KG combo would have any worse depth than what the Celtics have now, for starters that Lakers team would be without Pollard and Scalabrine which has to count for something.

[wezbo]

ur wrong , if kg was there instead of odom, kobe wouldnt hesitate to pass to kg, and kg isnt inconsistant like odom is

[Bucs80]

3 better than 2 in my opinion

Than the fact the Lakers team would be completely gutted after the deal.

I don't think they reach the championship. Especially in the western conference.

[tnayrbrocks]

funny how everyones saying that the lakers would be depleted...the same was said for the celtics. If you disect the deals the BOS deal doesn't even come close to what LA was offering.

If the wolves are truly rebuilding Bynum should be more valuable than Jefferson and Odom is clearly better than the crap Boston sent over. Ryan Gomes? are u effing kidding

I think the lakers would have been better on the defensive end of the court compared to the current celtics team. there real only defensive liability on the other end would have been mihm/turiaf. I still think the celtics would be better than lakers overall.

[Man_Up]

Jefferson is averaging 20 and 12 I don't know how you figure Bynum is more valuable.

[BillessuR6]

Ray Allen + Paul Pierce >>>>>>> Kobe Bryant

[dm17415]

I think that KG and Kobe would have a less impressive record because the Lakers do have a tougher schedule this year. But come playoff time they would be a better team simply because of coaching and bench production.

Umm every team plays the same opponent and Lakers schedule won't be different from the Suns, Spurs, Mavs etc.

[Kobay]

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Umm every team plays the same opponent and Lakers schedule won't be different from the Suns, Spurs, Mavs etc.

On top of that we faced teams that were supposed to be tough but all of them were missing their key player when we won.

Except for Suns.