My First Redd Trade Proposal

Bernman · Post #61 » by **Bernman** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:52 pm

Thanks for the feedback, PP. I have no idea what kind of value a player like Noah has to Chicago. He's been a disappointment thus far and is a redundant player for their team. They have a lot of redundant surplus. Offenseless, interior defenders. Noah could be exchanged for Tyrus Thomas in this trade. There are a lot of minor tweaks which could be made. I might consider Gordon instead of Nocioni, if Andres has more valuable to them. Heck, I might even consider Sefolosha. He's struggled early in his career somewhat, but he can defend, and he has immense potential. Just get Hinrich on this ballclub and watch the dramatic improvement.

Neapolitan Buck · Post #62 » by **Neapolitan Buck** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:56 pm

A Clippers' trade would necessarily involve Maggette, that is a free agent this summer, and I don't believe anyway the Clips are gonna give us Brand.

Post #63 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 9:58 pm

Bernman wrote:. I have no idea what kind of value a player like Noah has to Chicago.

I can only go by what I read in the Chicago media and what Bulls fans here say, but most are really sky high on Noah. We saw the other night where he can really play well in certain instances. I'd love to have the guy on the Bucks despite his personality issues.

When I've floated trade proposals on the Bulls board, they seem more inclined to give up Tyrus Thomas. We've talked here about CV + a #1 for TT but as the season has progressed, I'd view CV for TT an even up trade. Thomas has had all sorts of issues supposedly of motivation and brainpower. Maybe things will change with Skiles out.

I'd like to see a swap of Mo for Hinrich.....that would be one of my 435 acceptable trade proposals to break up the backcourt. But if we could swing a Hinrich/Noc/Noah for Redd/CV deal, I'd be very happy.

Nowak008 · Post #64 » by **Nowak008** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:21 pm

I know everyone wants to break up the back court, but Hinrich has been horrendous .

Mo has been much better, and its not even close. He has a PER of 18.7 compared to Hinrichs 11.9. Defensive PER is somewhat of a dubious stat (at least what I'm told) even so, Hinrich barely edges Mo 17.5 to 17.2. The reason why defensive PER is usually useless (I think?) is because it doesn't factor in team defense. Since the Bucks D is worse then the Bulls it should sway that stat much in Mo's favor too much.

InsideOut · Post #65 » by **InsideOut** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 10:23 pm

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Well, Brand >>> Redd, Maggette >>> CV, 1st >>> Gadz. This would be highway robbery by the Bucks. Even if Brand walks from the Bucks they still don't make out all that badly especially given the fact that the Clippers pick is no question top 10.

From the Clippers standpoint, I don't think they'd be looking to add a player like Redd. If they are going to lose Brand and Maggette they would be looking to rebuild.

This is all that needs to be said.

The Clippers aren't going to be looking to rebuild with a max Redd, unimpressive CV and a crappy contract in Gadz. The Clippers wouldn't win now and Redd's and Gadz contracts don't help them get better anytime soon. And then they give us a lottery pick on top of all that? This is horrible for the Clippers. And as was mentioned, it could blow up in the Buck's face when Brand and CM don't resign. It's just bad for everyone involved unless Brand would agree to an extension with the Bucks (like that