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YogiStewart wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
all of the girls look so ghetto. the sequined hats? hoods on their heads?
there also is little that's appealing about the girls. they either look like men, look like men in drag or they clearly have 15-year-old girl bodies.[/b]
so what part is it that you like. no matter what, you lose.
or you gain herpes.
HERPES!
BURN
bychai wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Look "ghetto"? Hoods on their heads?
That's some ignorant sh** right there.
bychai wrote:Yes, because people that wear hats with sequins and hoodies are considered ghetto. No apology coming from me that's for sure.
If you think girls don't look cute in hoodies, something is wrong with YOU.
And the fact that you think "ghetto is used frequently to describe hiphop culture" just shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about... at all.
pierrot wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
That's overly simplistic. The analogy isn't so good because the bartender is subject to the duties and liabilities laid out in the bar's liquor license. Also, the bartender won't be charged under the criminal law, he'll be charged under the liquor control act, so the burden of proof is much lower.
The bartender can be liable even where he honestly believed that the person in question was over age ... all that matters is that he served a minor.
On the other hand, in the criminal law an honestly held mistake is usually a defence. Even a completely unreasonable mistake about someone's age could be a defence if the judge/jury believed that the defendant was honestly mistaken.
The judge/jury might say that the defendant should have investigated further, but on the other hand they might not. The outcome still very much depends on the circumstances of the case, the persuasiveness of the lawyers, and of course the sentiments of judge or jury.
It also really varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction ... the law in Florida is different from the law in Canada. In some jurisdictions there is no mistake of fact available for statutory rape, but in Canada there is (which I assume we're talking about since that's where most of us are from), and I'm pretty sure there is in most American jurisdictions (the criminal law varies state by state in America).
Actually the bartender will be convicted with much greater ease, for a number of reasons ... but on the other hand, the bartender is facing a fine, not jailtime.
from24ft wrote:Yogi wasn't there some sort of controversy with our Premier's office referring to someone as a "ghetto" guy?
I think in these circumstances one needs to look at the comment and see if it is meant to disparage or insult.
YogiStewart wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
correct.
if i pointed to someone and said "you are a ghetto person", that would be racist.
if i said that a look is "ghetto", i think its understood that its meant to describe an urban look.
end of discussion.