Isiah's legacy: super player or bad GM?
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Isiah's legacy: super player or bad GM?
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Isiah's legacy: super player or bad GM?
I really dig Isiah Thomas. He suffered a horrible childhood, was a Top 3 guard of a generation which featured Magic and MJ, and willed the Pistons to two rings. In the Stockton vs Isiah debate, I comfortably take Isiah.
But you know the never ending story about Isiah and the Knicks. He is running them into the ground, nothing he touches is working. FYI, he came in Dec 2003, and the Knicks won 37, 39, 33, 23 and 33 regular season games since then. I am not a Knicks fan, but my heart bled after the Blue and Orange were blown out back2back vs the Sixers, lost against the gimpy Kings (starting lineup: Miller/Garcia/Mikki/Salmons/Udrih), and got annihilated by the Celtics.
AT THIS MOMENT, when you think of Isiah, is he the greatest PG not named Magic and Oscar, or the guy who is destroying the Knicks? For me, he is still a Pistons legend first, but boy, he is quickly losing ground.
But you know the never ending story about Isiah and the Knicks. He is running them into the ground, nothing he touches is working. FYI, he came in Dec 2003, and the Knicks won 37, 39, 33, 23 and 33 regular season games since then. I am not a Knicks fan, but my heart bled after the Blue and Orange were blown out back2back vs the Sixers, lost against the gimpy Kings (starting lineup: Miller/Garcia/Mikki/Salmons/Udrih), and got annihilated by the Celtics.
AT THIS MOMENT, when you think of Isiah, is he the greatest PG not named Magic and Oscar, or the guy who is destroying the Knicks? For me, he is still a Pistons legend first, but boy, he is quickly losing ground.
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Point forward wrote:I really dig Isiah Thomas. He suffered a horrible childhood, was a Top 3 guard of a generation which featured Magic and MJ, and willed the Pistons to two rings. In the Stockton vs Isiah debate, I comfortably take Isiah.
But you know the never ending story about Isiah and the Knicks. He is running them into the ground, nothing he touches is working. FYI, he came in Dec 2003, and the Knicks won 37, 39, 33, 23 and 33 regular season games since then. I am not a Knicks fan, but my heart bled after the Blue and Orange were blown out back2back vs the Sixers, lost against the gimpy Kings (starting lineup: Miller/Garcia/Mikki/Salmons/Udrih), and got annihilated by the Celtics.
AT THIS MOMENT, when you think of Isiah, is he the greatest PG not named Magic and Oscar, or the guy who is destroying the Knicks? For me, he is still a Pistons legend first, but boy, he is quickly losing ground.
I tought you were talking about Thomas, not Frazier(who is IMO the 3rd best PG in history..I would go as far as call it a tie betwee him and Oscar).
Back on topic, as a player.He did bring his team 2 titles, during the best era for the NBA.
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I tought you were talking about Thomas, not Frazier(who is IMO the 3rd best PG in history..I would go as far as call it a tie betwee him and Oscar).
Back on topic, as a player.He did bring his team 2 titles, during the best era for the NBA.
Frazier was an insanely good PG, and I have no probs if ppl say he is the third best PG all-time. I just like Isiah -- the PLAYER -- very much. On topic, I just cannot believe Zeke is so effective in destroying his own legacy.
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"Destroyed the Knicks" ha ha.
People are acting like he destroyed some sort of championship dynasty team....newsflash, they were already pretty damn bad when he came and weren't going anywhere with that NY "now now, build later" mentality that everyone pushes.
Real basketball fans will remember Thomas for his fiery play.
People are acting like he destroyed some sort of championship dynasty team....newsflash, they were already pretty damn bad when he came and weren't going anywhere with that NY "now now, build later" mentality that everyone pushes.
Real basketball fans will remember Thomas for his fiery play.
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mudyez wrote:following the nba since 93...so he is the guy that killed one of the greatest nba-franchises
What did he kill? Am I mistaken or something.were we talking about a perennial contender or a powerhouse team when he got there?
He made it worse, but to suggest that he killed something that on the basketball court was barely alive..is absurd.
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