What teams can Portland beat in the playoffs out West.

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Post#61 » by yunggunz » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:35 pm

Fitz303 wrote:The blazers dont have a prayer against a team like SA, or PHX.. They play Dallas very well and they play Denver and NO very tough as well. But this is regular season, and this team is young. Do I think Portland can beat any of them in the playoffs? MAYBE Denver, but thats about it, and theres virtually no chance of that being a 1st rd matchup. They could take MAYBE 2 games from Dallas and NO, and would probably be swept by SA and PHX.


The 2-1 record they have against Denver is definitely deceiving. Both wins were on the second night of back to backs for Denver, and both were when the nuggets had serious injury problems (which seriously, seriously exacerbates the fact its the back end of a back to back). In the first win Denver only had 2 bench players, and in the 2nd Denver started Jelani mccoy and Linas Kleiza, and still almost stole it.
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Post#62 » by Fitz303 » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:46 pm

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The 2-1 record they have against Denver is definitely deceiving. Both wins were on the second night of back to backs for Denver, and both were when the nuggets had serious injury problems (which seriously, seriously exacerbates the fact its the back end of a back to back). In the first win Denver only had 2 bench players, and in the 2nd Denver started Jelani mccoy and Linas Kleiza, and still almost stole it.


Yeah but then you could say the same for the Blazers.. the loss the Blazers had was on a second of a back to back after just beating Detroit at home and not getting into Denver until 3AM, and played without the best 3pt shooter in the league this year and a major part of this teams success in James Jones

And the Game that we won IN Denver we played without LaMarcus Aldridge who was out for 5 games, and Denver was at FULL HEALTH, but we still took care of business.. Both teams have played eachother very well so far this season, and thats why I said that they MIGHT have a shot at being able to beat Denver in a 7 game series, though its almost impossible that those 2 teams match up against eachother in the 1st round
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Post#63 » by yunggunz » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:52 pm

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And the Game that we won IN Denver we played without LaMarcus Aldridge who was out for 5 games, and Denver was at FULL HEALTH, but we still took care of business.


As you know, you hardly missed LMA because Frye was on fire and played far and away his best game of the season. And you can say the Nuggets were healthy, except they were missing two starters and only had 2 rotation players available to come off the bench.....wait, thats not healthy at all!

Anyways, everyone can have their own opinion. I dont see them competing with any team in the top 7 in the west right now. They just dont have the experience, the ability to steal a game on the road, nor the low post scoring needed to be succesful in the playoffs.
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Post#64 » by Fitz303 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:04 am

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As you know, you hardly missed LMA because Frye was on fire and played far and away his best game of the season. And you can say the Nuggets were healthy, except they were missing two starters and only had 2 rotation players available to come off the bench.....wait, thats not healthy at all!

Anyways, everyone can have their own opinion. I dont see them competing with any team in the top 7 in the west right now. They just dont have the experience, the ability to steal a game on the road, nor the low post scoring needed to be succesful in the playoffs.


That was the last game.. That one was in Portland.. The game IN DENVER is the one that we won by 9 and played without LMA and Denver was at full health.. Frye did what good teams' role players do. They step in and fill the void. Injuries happen, and its how you deal with them that is a pretty good test to how good your team is
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Post#65 » by yunggunz » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:13 am

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That was the last game.. That one was in Portland.. The game IN DENVER is the one that we won by 9 and played without LMA and Denver was at full health.. Frye did what good teams' role players do. They step in and fill the void. Injuries happen, and its how you deal with them that is a pretty good test to how good your team is


No. Nene and Atkins were out in the game in denver. Both were slated to start in the pre season. Hunter was also out. Its funny that you consider it full health for the Nuggets when they only miss 2 or 3 rotation players.
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Post#66 » by Fitz303 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:21 am

Please... Nenes played 10 games and Atkins has played 8 games.. Thats like saying Greg Oden has been out so we've been playing hurt.. The most that Nene has even played this year is 25 minutes. and his best output has been 12 and 6.. Hes been a non factor for that team and who would he start over? I dont see Camby or KMart sitting down for Nene.. But anyways, this is getting way off subject.. I dont see these 2 teams playing eachother in the playoffs. Im only 50/50 on if the Blazers will even make the playoffs... If they do, they will be bounced out quickly by SA or PHX and they'll regroup with Oden for the next year
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Post#67 » by yunggunz » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:24 am

Fitz303 wrote:Please... Nenes played 10 games and Atkins has played 8 games..



Ok. So are you more impressed with the Nuggets record then, or what? And its nothing like saying you were missing Oden. Its also not off topic, because we are talking about teams portland can beat in a 7 game series.
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Post#68 » by dalekjazz » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:30 am

They may have a chance against the Minnesota Timberwolves.
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Post#69 » by OJmayo4mvp » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:34 am

Nobody in this thread predicted the Blazers would win 13 straight, so if they win big in the playoffs I don't think it will be predicted either. That doesn't make it unlikely though :evil:
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Post#70 » by Fitz303 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:52 am

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Ok. So are you more impressed with the Nuggets record then, or what? And its nothing like saying you were missing Oden. Its also not off topic, because we are talking about teams portland can beat in a 7 game series.


I keep wanting to drop this subject but you keep pulling me back it.. Youre killing me buddy

I am impressed by the Nuggets record because Nene has hardly played, and when he has, hes been nearly non existant. Chucky is also a nice veteran that adds stability and pretty good shooting (although not this year at all) on that team. But at the same time, I guess I still expected to see a better record from a team with AI, Melo, KMart, and Camby. Not to mention a decent group of role players in Kleiza, Najera, Smith (although he only gets sporatic PT)

I am more impressed with the Blazers simply because of the low expectations. Both have beaten very good teams (the blazers have beaten the Mavs, Pistons, NOH, Jazz, GSW, and so have the Nuggets in beating the Mavs, NOH, GSW, SA. The Nuggets have a more veteran team and are a better rebounding team so I would give the edge to the Nuggets, but as I had said in the previous posts, I think the Blazers MIGHT be able to beat the Nuggets. It would be an upset for sure, and in no way am I saying that they should, but im saying they've played well against them and it would be a good matchup
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Post#71 » by Charlie78 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:01 am

Blazer Fan Says: Yeah blazers dont really have any chance but maybe if hell freezes over we might have a shot against the likes of DEN.

Crazed Denver fan hears: You suck and we would beat you down right now in a 20 game series.

Blazers Fan says: We played you guys well this year and one game on the road we were without our second best player.

Crazed Denver fan hears: Your team is a bunch of losers and they are no where near the ability of ours. Only one guy on your team would even start on ours.

Seriously has one blazers fan said that we can even for sure take down HOU who isnt even in the playoffs right now. I think most blazers fans recognize that we have the slimmest of chances to beat anyone in the playoffs, but if there is a chance it is likely to be against ateam we have had success against.
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Post#72 » by BlzrsExplosion » Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:03 am

OJmayo4mvp wrote:Nobody in this thread predicted the Blazers would win 13 straight, so if they win big in the playoffs I don't think it will be predicted either. That doesn't make it unlikely though.


Seriously. The Blazers have to be the least predictable team in the league. We are talking about the third youngest team in NBA history here. The players are still improving and coming together as a team. If Roy can keep up his level of play (and stay healthy, please stay healthy) and guys like LaMarcus Aldridge and Travis Outlaw keep growing as players there's really no telling what this time might do in the playoffs if they make it. The fact is, this team is out hustling, hearting and playing teams no one thought they had any business beating before the season began. I'm not sure I'd put money on the Blazers even making the playoffs at this point but I sure as heck wouldn't put money against it.

If we play Golden State, New Orleans, Utah, Denver or Houston in the first round I could see an upset (assuming it's even considered an upset at that point, again, no telling right now) happening. Those teams just don't seem to have the stability that the top teams in the West show.
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Post#73 » by Craig McDermott » Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:03 am

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Post#74 » by DaVoiceMaster » Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:36 am

I'm still trying to figure out why in the world people are talking about the Blazers and the playoffs when we still have nearly 2/3's of the season to go. I'm even more dumbfounded why people are arguing one way or the other about the Blazers and the playoffs.

Who cares!!!!!!! The Blazer's aren't going to win the championship this year. If they make the playoff's, I'll be totally stoked. I had them pegged for winning around 32 games this year. Then they go on the 13 game winning streak, which is now something like 15 out of the last 16 games. Can't we all just be happy for these guys???

Let's have this conversation again next year around this time when Oden and Fernandez have joined the team. Maybe the question will be the other way around.... which of these Western Conference teams can beat the Blazers in the playoffs!!!!!!!!!

Portland most likely will not win a playoff series this season. They don't have much of an inside game, which you really need during the playoffs... unless you play Dallas, Phoenix, or Golden State.
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Post#75 » by RJM » Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:34 am

Well....the Blazers have to be a PLAYOFF TEAM first.
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Post#76 » by Iggyemu » Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:07 am

I doubt they can beat any of those teams in a 7 game series. But if I had to pick I would say Utah. But then I thought the Rockets would handle Utah in last years 7 game series and we know how that turned out.
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Post#77 » by TBpup » Sun Jan 6, 2008 6:39 am

All this talk about the Blazer and the playoff is (I agree) premature. They are the 3rd youngest team of all time and take off Raef who is just collecting dust at the end of the bench an their average age is about 22. Add to that they are not a good rebounding team and don't have any playoff experience.

However, they have won 16 or 17 after moving Roy to PG and adding James Jones off of injury so somthing must be working. Opinions are great but the fact are the facts....whether in a teams favor or not.

As a Blazer fan, of course I am glad they are playing well if for no other reason than the experience of playing without their big man in the middle and learning how to win without him (and against the Jazz tonight, without their star player Roy). That doesn't mean they will have playoff success but it does mean they are developing and will be a serious threat probably as soon as next year.


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Post#78 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:19 am

Charlie78 wrote:To me it depends on how the season progresses. If the blazers go back to playing .500 and barely squeak in then they are done in 4. If this good play is more than just a lucky stretch and we get a 345 seed then Im not afraid of anyone outside of SA.

As for DEN, you can make all the excuses you want corona, but we came into your house and beat you good without aldridge. I suppose the fire in the locker room was the problem that game huh? The second win is more questionable but I think we win anyways even with you guys healthy. But Im a homer of course. In the playoffs who knows. If we have homecourt over you though I take the blazers everyday.


i dont get how winning one game in denver can justify that.

all i know is if we got portland in the first round, it would be great.
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Post#79 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:20 am

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As you know, you hardly missed LMA because Frye was on fire and played far and away his best game of the season. And you can say the Nuggets were healthy, except they were missing two starters and only had 2 rotation players available to come off the bench.....wait, thats not healthy at all!


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Post#80 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:21 am

Charlie78 wrote:Blazer Fan Says: Yeah blazers dont really have any chance but maybe if hell freezes over we might have a shot against the likes of DEN.

Crazed Denver fan hears: You suck and we would beat you down right now in a 20 game series.

Blazers Fan says: We played you guys well this year and one game on the road we were without our second best player.

Crazed Denver fan hears: Your team is a bunch of losers and they are no where near the ability of ours. Only one guy on your team would even start on ours.

Seriously has one blazers fan said that we can even for sure take down HOU who isnt even in the playoffs right now. I think most blazers fans recognize that we have the slimmest of chances to beat anyone in the playoffs, but if there is a chance it is likely to be against ateam we have had success against.


nice paraphrazing. :nonono:

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