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Post#1 » by Village Idiot » Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:48 pm

Chicago trades:

Ben Wallace
Salary: $15,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.5 REB: 8.9 AST: 2.0 PER: 12.07

Chris Duhon
Salary: $3,248,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 1.9 AST: 3.7 PER: 9.89

Viktor Khryapa
Salary: $1,928,598 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.0 REB: 4.5 AST: 1.0 PER: 10.09

1st round draft pick to Sacramento-lottery protected until 2013

Chicago receives:

Brad Miller
Salary: $10,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 13.6 REB: 8.8 AST: 3.2 PER: 15.93

John Salmons
Salary: $4,752,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.9 AST: 3.3 PER: 17.75

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Salary: $5,800,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 1.7 REB: 1.7 AST: 0.7 PER: 5.77

Alexander Johnson
Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.7 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.2 PER: 8.58

Chris Quinn
Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.6 REB: 1.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 12.75

The Bulls fill their two biggest needs in one fell swoop. Salmons is the bigger two guard with ball-handling skills to compliment Hinrich and Gordon. Miller gives them inside scoring and is a great compliment to youngsters Noah and TT. Abdur-Rahim and his ugly contract is the price to pay here.


Miami trades:

Dorell Wright
Salary: $2,040,746 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 7.0 REB: 4.7 AST: 1.1 PER: 15.03

Jason Williams
Salary: $8,937,500 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.7 REB: 2.3 AST: 5.4 PER: 11.99

Ricky Davis
Salary: $6,819,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 15.5 REB: 4.2 AST: 2.8 PER: 13.14

Smush Parker
Salary: $2,250,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.8 REB: 2.1 AST: 1.7 PER: 5.74

Alexander Johnson
Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 2.7 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.2 PER: 8.58

Chris Quinn
Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.6 REB: 1.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 12.75



Miami receives:

Ron Artest
Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.1 REB: 6.1 AST: 4.3 PER: 17.27

Ben Wallace
Salary: $15,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.5 REB: 8.9 AST: 2.0 PER: 12.07

Chris Duhon
Salary: $3,248,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 1.9 AST: 3.7 PER: 9.89

If the Heat can make it to the playoffs, they'd be a very scary team. Tough team to score on and lots of offensive talent as well.


Sacramento trades:

Ron Artest
Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.1 REB: 6.1 AST: 4.3 PER: 17.27

Brad Miller
Salary: $10,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 13.6 REB: 8.8 AST: 3.2 PER: 15.93

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Salary: $5,800,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 1.7 REB: 1.7 AST: 0.7 PER: 5.77

John Salmons
Salary: $4,752,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.9 AST: 3.3 PER: 17.75


Sacramento receives:

Viktor Khryapa
Salary: $1,928,598 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.0 REB: 4.5 AST: 1.0 PER: 10.09

Dorell Wright
Salary: $2,040,746 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 7.0 REB: 4.7 AST: 1.1 PER: 15.03

Ricky Davis
Salary: $6,819,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 15.5 REB: 4.2 AST: 2.8 PER: 13.14

Jason Williams
Salary: $8,937,500 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.7 REB: 2.3 AST: 5.4 PER: 11.99

Smush Parker
Salary: $2,250,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.8 REB: 2.1 AST: 1.7 PER: 5.74

1st round draft pick from Chicago-lottery protected until 2013


The Kings suck when you consider how much talent they have on their team. This deal accepts that they're officially rebuilding. Gone are a heck of a lot of contract burden and in come only ending contracts and a pick. The Kings will have a lot of cap-space already next year. Assuming they can get some decent value for Bibby this team looks forward rather than back.
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Post#2 » by rpa » Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:56 pm

1) The Kings aren't trading Salmons and Artest in the same deal as Salmons is the intended replacement

2) This is awful anyways for the Kings. They trade 3 good players but get back basically nothing but a useless player that probably won't make their roster next year (Wright) and a 1st round pick that they may not get for years.
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Post#3 » by Rugged Ron Ron » Sun Jan 6, 2008 6:53 pm

Village Idiot wrote:The Kings suck when you consider how much talent they have on their team. This deal accepts that they're officially rebuilding. Gone are a heck of a lot of contract burden and in come only ending contracts and a pick. The Kings will have a lot of cap-space already next year. Assuming they can get some decent value for Bibby this team looks forward rather than back.
I'll admit this team isnt playing great this year. But when was the last time they have all their talent on the court at the same time? Artest already missed 10+plus games, Bibby havent play a single game, and Martin has been out for a month. Im not saying this team will do major damage once everyone is back, but Petrie isnt gonna blow up the team without seeing the team's full potential. Ok. Im done ranting. :P

As for the trade, Sac denied. At least keep the pick unprotected. They gave up 3 desire players who are playing great this year and they take back just expirings. Im aware Dwight is young but he didnt improve much this year. As for Davis I wouldnt even trade Salmons for him. Not saying one another better, but Salmons is signed to a very good long term contract. Davis is going to look for a big contract this offseason.
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Post#4 » by Paxson » Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:09 pm

The kings don't give up miller, salmons and artest for that crap.
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Post#5 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:10 pm

No thank you.

The Kings are playing with their youth right now and they are making too many mistakes but they'll learn and will start winning some of these close ones that they are losing

Its funny people say they suck but its not like they are getting blowout

And there giving up probably the three best players in the deal, although that is debatable on how you look at it
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Post#6 » by Darkstar » Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:54 pm

Chigao massacres the other teams. They shed an albatross and only geve up Duhon and gain to useful players and the only negative is them getting back SAR? Nuh uh, not gonna happen. Chi needs to make the trade a little more palatable for Sacto.

For Miami I probably wouldn't do this because no matter what we have no reason to take on Wallaces contract when the reward is a player that will more then likely leave in the off season. Then there is the fact that Shaq is still there in Miami and there is no way this ever happens.
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Post#7 » by hermes » Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:13 pm

Paxson wrote:The kings don't give up miller, salmons and artest for that crap.
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Post#8 » by KF10 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:30 pm

Kings decline...for stated reasons...
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Post#9 » by sackings916 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:39 pm

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Post#10 » by old rem » Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:35 pm

Only if the Kings are into a full tilt salary dump,and even then-they'd want to hang onto Salmons and/or get better value back.
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Post#11 » by bullzman23 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:42 pm

I love this from a Bulls perspective obviously. Heat should give up more. Sac, definitely should at least receive picks from both Chicago and Miami.
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Post#12 » by Bac2Basics » Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:48 pm

I think we can go ahead and lock this one now.
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Post#13 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:51 pm

This is laughable. Chicago just destroys the other teams in the trade. Lotto protected till 2013? Thats funny. No way Sacramento does this.
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Post#14 » by DanTown8587 » Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:55 am

1) Why does everyone protect the picks they trade? Sacramento gets at best a #14 in trading three starters?
2) Salmons plays the three without Artest, so why trade him
3) Where do the Heat play Wallace? Why do they trade so much in expiring contracts for basically Artest?
4) Sacramento gets ZERO players who they really want in trading three of their top six.
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Post#15 » by Flash is the Future » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:04 am

Because Bibby+Artest aren't worth a lotto pick, even if they're combined together and most GMs aren't stupid.
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Post#16 » by Bac2Basics » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:11 am

DanTown8587 wrote:1) Why does everyone protect the picks they trade? Sacramento gets at best a #14 in trading three starters?
2) Salmons plays the three without Artest, so why trade him
3) Where do the Heat play Wallace? Why do they trade so much in expiring contracts for basically Artest?
4) Sacramento gets ZERO players who they really want in trading three of their top six.


It's exactly these kind of points that are lost on most non-Kings fans for reasons unknown.
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Post#17 » by LPKingsFan » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:25 am

Flash is the Future wrote:Because Bibby+Artest aren't worth a lotto pick, even if they're combined together and most GMs aren't stupid.


Wow, really? Even lotto picks are risky.

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