Franchise player vs franchise player

[I-AM-A-BEAST]

I think it's time I put Contender on ignore for the 15th time.

[Calderoni_8]

i want rudy gay on our team...
NOT BARGNANI... why do we need 2 bigs guys taht cant win us games in the clutch

[Nia]

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Again he was not doubled at first his constent hesitation is what gets him in trouble, if he recieved the ball and went hard the moment he got the ball there would be no double team. The help only comes when Bosh stands there and waits five seconds before he makes up his mind.

It is a serious flaw in his game and one he hasnt corrected through 5 years of playing in the NBA

You really need to watch the game again. When ever Bosh was Double/Triple he was passing it out, but he couldn't find one single player. When he was going one on one he went to the Hoop. I don't even think he took a jumpshot (don't remember), For him to be able take 6/6 shots in till 4th should tell you something. He finished the game going for 9-11. If I remember correctly Him and Delfino were the only ones on the floor going for the hustle plays, awhile the rest were watch around from the 3 point line.

[jlsca]

Even if he was as good as KG, which he is CLEARLY NOT, we're still not going anywhere until we get a real CLUTCH, GO-TO tough minded All Star calibre sg/f....you can't win with a soft power forward as your go to guy. That is a FACT you f*cktards.

All the excuses for the mediocrity in Toronto is just pathetic....

as long as they're "nice"....

It's up to management to face the fact that he is not going to carry the team....not his fault...

[Darrick Martin]

Even if he was as good as KG, which he is CLEARLY NOT, we're still not going anywhere until we get a real CLUTCH, GO-TO tough minded All Star calibre sg/f....you can't win with a soft power forward as your go to guy. That is a FACT you f*cktards.

All the excuses for the mediocrity in Toronto is just pathetic....

as long as they're "nice"....

It's up to management to face the fact that he is not going to carry the team....not his fault...

Even KG needs help.. cuz how many championships OR playoff series has he won?

[The_Hater]

As a raptor fan i am really disappointed in Bosh this season, he continues to disappear when it matters most to this team and when we face the teams with superstars like Lebron it always seems like their star rises up and destroys us while Bosh drifts away and does nothing in crunch time.

This season I thought I would get to see Bosh begin to peak as a player and show that he is on their level but what has happened this season has been the exact opposite with Bosh actually regressing and vanishing even more when the games are on the line.

Today once again we were shown that our #1 is not a true #1 and im getting so sick of seeing this occur im thinking of no longer watching this team until changes are made.

We will never win a title with Chris Bosh as our #1 option, never!

Yes Contender, Bosh isn't as good as LeBron who just happens to be the best player in the league. We're all well aware of that. But at least he showed up to play today, unlike a certain 7-foot softy with bad hands.

So is the solution to get rid of our best player simply because other teams have better top dogs? Or should be realize that we're still trying to build and continue to add more good players to the puzzle? Hmmm...

[Tommy Gun]

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Yes Contender, Bosh isn't as good as LeBron who just happens to be the best player in the league. We're all well aware of that. But at least he showed up to play today, unlike a certain 7-foot softy with bad hands.

So is the solution to get rid of our best player simply because other teams have better top dogs? Or should be realize that we're still trying to build and continue to add more good players to the puzzle? Hmmm...

This is what I keep saying and am amazed that more dont see it this way. It was the same thing I was saying when we were turning on VC because he couldnt turn chicken **** into chicken salad. Of course, I wish VC would have stuck around for another few years because a Bosh/VC combo would have been lethal

[elephunk]

I didn't realize Curryfries, was contender, so long sucka. IP match (Ban).

Should have figured it was him, only took a few days if that, to attack bosh, like he does on bosh's website. lol

lol, if you don't mind me helping you, he also posts under the following nicknames:

bill russell
thecc
jlsca


EDIT: He'll keep coming back though (in spite of his official retirement)
Having a mod just to keep an eye on him will do wonders for this board.

[djsunyc]

ok, is bosh and true blue elite superstar that can just carry a team to deep playoff runs? NO, NOT YET.

but HE'S VERY CLOSE.

there's a reason he was taken 4th and not 1st.

and there's a difference with a guy like bosh as opposed to lebron, lebron can bring hte ball up, call his own # and do whatever he wants. bosh has to get the ball delivered to him in the post where there's less room to operate.

remember, he's only 23. he needs to become a little more aggressive, he has his flaws. but he has time. he may never get there but c'est la vie.

without bosh, the raptors are probably contracted or moved to another US city.

[ImissJordan]

I hate you all.

I mean, Bosh carries us on his back to a win in New Orleans, and he's a true franchise player, our heart and soul, etc.

He gets outplayed by LeBron f*cking James, and he's a p*ssy posing as a leader.

Why do I still come here?

[Death Knight]

Bosh is a ball stopper.

[djsunyc]

Bosh is a ball stopper.

it seems like everytime i read these anti-bosh threads, i can't help but think of guys like barkley and ewing. great players but underappreciated by their fanbase and think he's the cause of all the problems. like they are better off without them.

ask philly how it looked without barkley (until they had to be bad enough to get the #1 pick for iverson).

then ask the knicks.

without bosh, the raptors barely win 20 games.

i'm shocked, especially after guys like vince & tmac say they dogged it that so many people are upset with bosh.

[deknow]

I hate you all.

I mean, Bosh carries us on his back to a win in New Orleans, and he's a true franchise player, our heart and soul, etc.

He gets outplayed by LeBron f*cking James, and he's a p*ssy posing as a leader.

Why do I still come here?

The problem is we know he's capable. He just doesn't bring it consistently and his end of game mind set is all wrong.

[Nia]

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This is what I keep saying and am amazed that more dont see it this way. It was the same thing I was saying when we were turning on VC because he couldnt turn chicken **** into chicken salad. Of course, I wish VC would have stuck around for another few years because a Bosh/VC combo would have been lethal

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Yes Contender, Bosh isn't as good as LeBron who just happens to be the best player in the league. We're all well aware of that. But at least he showed up to play today, unlike a certain 7-foot softy with bad hands.

So is the solution to get rid of our best player simply because other teams have better top dogs? Or should be realize that we're still trying to build and continue to add more good players to the puzzle? Hmmm...

The Problem with Raps fans is that they are thinking we are an Elite team, that we are going to win a Champtionship this year. What they don't realize is that LBJ, Wade and Melo even TJ have all been to the Playoffs every time at least 2 to 3 times since their Rookie year. CB is just getting a taste off having a successful season and trying to work off that, from Playing on a team that Sucked for all his career since he came in. They are Expecting to much off him, (we all get it, he's not the same as last season, you made their point, but at some point he's going to learn from this and I doubt he's going to stay the same). All I'm saying is this is the first time in a long time this team is coming off of a success season, but to think that we are going to the Finals and win Ring Now with a Young Core it's crazy. This team hasen't even finish building yet and we are 2 to 3 years away from Contending. We will make the playoffs because we play for the East, but to think others wise this year people are going crazy.

[curryfries]

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Yes Contender, Bosh isn't as good as LeBron who just happens to be the best player in the league. We're all well aware of that. But at least he showed up to play today, unlike a certain 7-foot softy with bad hands.

So is the solution to get rid of our best player simply because other teams have better top dogs? Or should be realize that we're still trying to build and continue to add more good players to the puzzle? Hmmm...

The solution is to get a better playeer and make Bosh what he truly is which is a 2nd or 3rd option on a great team

And if you think Bosh showed up today then you are a blind ignorant fool who hasnt got the slighest clue.

[vaff87]

I don't know how anyone can expect Bosh or anyone for that matter to be as good as LeBron. Lebron is just a freak of nature, absolutely amazingly talented and virtually impossible to stop.

[Death Knight]

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it seems like everytime i read these anti-bosh threads, i can't help but think of guys like barkley and ewing. great players but underappreciated by their fanbase and think he's the cause of all the problems. like they are better off without them.

ask philly how it looked without barkley (until they had to be bad enough to get the #1 pick for iverson).

then ask the knicks.

without bosh, the raptors barely win 20 games.

i'm shocked, especially after guys like vince & tmac say they dogged it that so many people are upset with bosh.

What does this have anything to do with what I said?

I pointed out a flaw in Bosh's game, and that's it. I didn't blame him for anything. Don't you think Bosh hurts himself by taking too much time holding the ball in the post? He is more successful when he makes quicker decisions, either going after his defender in the post or making quick passes out of double teams.

[deknow]

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The solution is to get a better playeer and make Bosh what he truly is which is a 2nd or 3rd option on a great team

And if you think Bosh showed up today then you are a blind ignorant fool who hasnt got the slighest clue.

Have to agree Bosh was nowhere to be found in the 4th.

[wade2bosh]

Bosh is not KG. And will never be. So don't expect that. And maybe you won't be as disappointed.

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The solution is to get a better playeer and make Bosh what he truly is which is a 2nd or 3rd option on a great team

And if you think Bosh showed up today then you are a blind ignorant fool who hasnt got the slighest clue.

who are we gonna trade from this team to land a player better than bosh?