Curry and his nonsense again....

Cliff Levingston · Post #21 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:28 pm

What "shot" did Eddy really take?

- Skiles fired on Christmas eve? Yea, a lot of other people criticized that too.
- Skiles is hard on his players? No sh*t.

Keep in mind that responses like this are baited by reporters who are asking questions. It's not like Eddy called a press conference to slander Pax or Skiles' names. As said, Eddy's just a big kid who answered a question honestly; it's hard to hold that against him.

ATRAIN53 · Post #22 » by **ATRAIN53** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:31 pm

hey eddie - putting up a double double aginst Pax would sting even worse than anything the press quotes from you.

think about that for a minute.

Post #23 » by **emperorjones** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:45 pm

myboyz12 wrote:eddy needs to shut it and focus on his own loser team! pax didn't want him dropping dead on the court, what a jerk!

Its not like Eddy is calling press conferences to discuss Pax and Skiles. Every time the Bulls & Knicks play, some reporter asks him a question & he gives his honest opinion. What would you guys rather have, the Crash Davis boilerplate speech?

Eddy was correct about both statements - Anyone actually disagree that 1) Firing someone of Christmas eve is just about unbelievable and 2) Skiles is really tough on his players and it eventually wears on them? How these two quotes even get people back into a discussion about DNA I don't know.

Its like eddy is an ex-girlfriend (albeit a big chubby ex-girlfriend with a post game) that dumped us and some of us just can't get over she liked the ugly dude from NY better than us.

MrSparkle · Post #24 » by **MrSparkle** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:25 pm

All these recent statements concerning the Bulls have been so fair and true. There's nothing wrong with what Curry said, how did he take a shot at the Bulls? Skiles IS a tough mother, and that DOES only last so long at the professional level. Maybe in the Soviet Union or high school setting, the boot camp/ass-kicking teaching mentality works to produce results, but it's not going to fly very long in the NBA. You need to balance it with a more laid-back approach occasionally.

Post #25 » by **DuckIII** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:35 pm

bullzman23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Can you verify these two things?

I can verify that I read the same 2 stories back in the day. Although I'm not sure if he "passed out" in a practice or simply had a prior happening of an irregular heartbeat accompanied by dizziness. Point being, his heart flutter in Charlotte that led to him sitting out was the second incident that season.

Post #26 » by **DuckIII** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:40 pm

For the record, I have no problem with the Christmas Eve timing of the firing. I'm surprised you guys are mentioning.

The Bulls were playing the next night and had played a mere 2 nights before. The Bulls got whipped on back to backs on Friday and Saturday, took Sunday to consider their options, and fired him Monday morning before the next game happened.

Perfectly reasonable, especially when the terminated person is still going to get millions in a buy out. Both Skiles and Glass expressly laughed off any criticism of the timing of the firing.

ChicagoChris · Post #27 » by **ChicagoChris** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:47 pm

I sometimes wonder if skiles was really that overly demanding/harsh. seems like Riley and others fit the mold of drill sergeant coaches and have flourished. saying nba players won't stand for it sounds simplistic, maybe an over generalization. not saying skiles should still be here, but I suspect it was more nuanced than him over pushing his players.

Post #28 » by **emperorjones** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:09 pm

DuckIII wrote:For the record, I have no problem with the Christmas Eve timing of the firing. I'm surprised you guys are mentioning.
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Hey Duck, when is your birthday...I'm gonna go talk to your boss.

Betta Bulleavit · Post #29 » by **Betta Bulleavit** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:12 pm

DuckIII wrote:For the record, I have no problem with the Christmas Eve timing of the firing. I'm surprised you guys are mentioning.

The Bulls were playing the next night and had played a mere 2 nights before. The Bulls got whipped on back to backs on Friday and Saturday, took Sunday to consider their options, and fired him Monday morning before the next game happened.

Perfectly reasonable, especially when the terminated person is still going to get millions in a buy out. Both Skiles and Glass expressly laughed off any criticism of the timing of the firing.

Thank you Duck. I still (to this day) cannot understand why anyone would have an issue with the timing. "Oh...Christmas is supposed to be a time of celebration an giving". Well we (as fans) wernt doing a whole lot of celebrating nor was Skiles giving a whole lot. So he sort of had it coming. Whether it was December 24th or January 10th is of little consequence to me. The guy is still going to get paid the remaining balance of his contract and got to spend the holidays with his family.

Im sure Skiles was sitting at home with his entire family in a depressed state figuring out how in the hell he was going to manage that measly 7 million dollars that he got as a parting gift.

Betta Bulleavit · Post #30 » by **Betta Bulleavit** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:14 pm

emperorjones wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Hey Duck, when is your birthday...I'm gonna go talk to your boss.

My birthday is 2/6. Give my boss a call tell him to fire me. Beg him to fire me. Just as long as I can get the same 7 MILLION DOLLARS THAT SKILES WALKED AWAY WITH!!!!!!!!!!

kyrv · Post #31 » by **kyrv** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:14 pm

DuckIII wrote:For the record, I have no problem with the Christmas Eve timing of the firing. I'm surprised you guys are mentioning.

The Bulls were playing the next night and had played a mere 2 nights before. The Bulls got whipped on back to backs on Friday and Saturday, took Sunday to consider their options, and fired him Monday morning before the next game happened.

Perfectly reasonable, especially when the terminated person is still going to get millions in a buy out. Both Skiles and Glass expressly laughed off any criticism of the timing of the firing.

I'm going to guess that the people complaining about the 'christmas eve' thing fall qualify to one or both of the below:

1) Do not fully understand the business of pro sports and the NBA. Paxson, Glass, Skiles, and posters here have tried to explain this (with limited success).

2) People want to complain in general and/or complain about Paxson in particular.

Eddy probably falls in both categories.

On the other hand, I don't really care about what he said, it's just more reason for athletes to try and help the reporters do their jobs. I do think what Eddy considers 100% is probably not the same as most people - not news.

mysteryfan · Post #32 » by **mysteryfan** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:18 pm

DuckIII wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I can verify that I read the same 2 stories back in the day. Although I'm not sure if he "passed out" in a practice or simply had a prior happening of an irregular heartbeat accompanied by dizziness. Point being, his heart flutter in Charlotte that led to him sitting out was the second incident that season.

Paxson mentioned the fainting incident in practice when he talked after the trade. They took Eddy to the hospital but the doctors then found nothing.

And I read the mother having a heart attack story, too.

bullzman23 · Post #33 » by **bullzman23** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:55 pm

Okay thanks for the explanation guys, I couldn't remember that.

TB#1 · Post #34 » by **TB#1** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:01 pm

emperorjones wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Hey Duck, when is your birthday...I'm gonna go talk to your boss.

Talk to MY boss. If you can convince management to pay me $6M without my needing to provide them any further services, I'm all for it. In fact, do it on Christmas DAY, and I'll consider it the best present Santa ever gave me.

Dieselbound&Down · Post #35 » by **Dieselbound&Down** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:09 pm

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Post #36 » by **dougthonus** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:10 pm

For those saying: 'I wish my boss would fire me and give me 7 million'. It's not the same thing unless you were going to make 7 million in the next year and a half for working. A more accurate example would be if your boss fired you and gave you a year and a half severance package.

Most people would probably not be happy for getting fired in this scenario. They'd be able to look at the bright side, but it still wouldn't be considered good news.

This isn't to say that I think we should have waited on firing Skiles for a different day to make him feel better. I was all for firing him ASAP, and if we hadn't fired him yet, and were willing to on Christmas Eve then I was darn glad we did instead of waiting until the 26th.

Dieselbound&Down · Post #37 » by **Dieselbound&Down** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:12 pm

I just wanted to make my 2000 post in an Eddy Curry thread. It will represent all of the wasted thought and words I have put into the guy and the wasted years the organization put into him as well.

Does RealGM mail out a token key chain or something like that to congratulate me on the accomplishment? Do I talk to our mods or go straight to one of the real big dogs?

Post #38 » by **dougthonus** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:14 pm

You get to shake hands with a mod once you get 2000 posts.

Since you've met myself, DuckIII, and Slim (at the very least), you are already paid up for the big milestones of 2000, 5000, and 10000.

At 20000, you can hang out with Ben B or Coldfish.

kyrv · Post #39 » by **kyrv** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:14 pm

dougthonus wrote:For those saying: 'I wish my boss would fire me and give me 7 million'. It's not the same thing unless you were going to make 7 million in the next year and a half for working. A more accurate example would be if your boss fired you and gave you a year and a half severance package.

Most people would probably not be happy for getting fired in this scenario. They'd be able to look at the bright side, but it still wouldn't be considered good news.

This isn't to say that I think we should have waited on firing Skiles for a different day to make him feel better. I was all for firing him ASAP, and if we hadn't fired him yet, and were willing to on Christmas Eve then I was darn glad we did instead of waiting until the 26th.

I agree that it's different, but, not quite the same as you mention. Skiles has enough for him, his children, and his granchildren, to be set for life.

So for me that satisfactory amount would be less than 7 million, but more than 1 1/2 years of salary.

Post #40 » by **dougthonus** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:15 pm

I agree that it's different, but, not quite the same as you mention. Skiles has enough for him, his children, and his granchildren, to be set for life.

So for me that satisfactory amount would be less than 7 million, but more than 1 1/2 years of salary.

He had that before he got fired.

I suppose it would be more like if you were already set for life, and then you got fired from your job with a year and a half severance package.

Still, it's quite a bit different when people make it sound like we upped his salary by 7 million to get rid of him.