Knicks @ Bulls Postgame Thread: Its a very sad day indeed..

BigUps · Post #21 » by **BigUps** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:08 am

Were bad, really bad.

Our defense is awful. We over rotate in the post and leave shooters wide open. We are lazy in transition defense and have 2 midgets for guards that get shot over.

Our coaching is flat awful too. I don't care if the other team goes to a 3 guard lineup. You don't counter that until they show its going to work. A 3 guard lineup is for teams that have either has quality guards or crappy big men. We have a plethora of big men and a guard named Duhon who sucks. Why go to the 3 guard lineup?

Ben Wallace is awful. Just awful. I'd cut him. Flat out cut him. He brings nothing to this team that our young players don't have to some extent. I don't care about his championships and veteran presence. He's so bad on the offensive end that it ruins our spacing. He's not even particularly good at rebounding the ball.

bullzman23 · Post #22 » by **bullzman23** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:08 am

JCrossover#1 wrote:Can we trade Gordon, Deng and a first rounder for Mike Miller? Please.

On another note, terrible display by Tyrus. Only positives was one blocked shot in the 4th quarter and one rebound. Then he had like 3 goaltendings, one stupid inboud pass that ended with 2 Knicks' points and he hurt the Bulls on O.

He was forced to play out of position. We're vulnerable right now with no healthy SFs.

mr.ankle · Post #23 » by **mr.ankle** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:08 am

Bluewaterheaven wrote:Guys Noc was sick and Deng was out... All will be ok

People have been saying that for a while . I'm not even sure this a playoff team

Post #24 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:08 am

Next loss - philadelphia. They have beaten up on us earlier too

Paxson just seems to love his players - but they only seem ordinary at best...

Angry Jimmy · Post #25 » by **Angry Jimmy** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:08 am

Curry with the all-staresque stat line, 29 points 11-14FG, 7-10FT. 8 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 blocks, 1 turnover.

Not as good as Ben Wallace's 4 points 2-6FG, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 0 turnover game, but it's respectable.

#1TKfan · Post #26 » by **#1TKfan** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:08 am

Bluewaterheaven wrote:Guys Noc was sick and Deng was out... All will be ok

ahahhaha.

Jo Jo English · Post #27 » by **Jo Jo English** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:09 am

That was definitely one of the more pathetic losses I have witnessed during the past few seasons.

Awful.

Bullsmaniac · Post #28 » by **Bullsmaniac** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:09 am

This game just prove it to me. The Bulls will not reach .500 this season.
When the schedule got softer, the inury bug hit one of our major players.
Noce with the flu didn't help either.
I blame this on Boylan though. No Gray or Noah in the 4th when they did well in the 3rd? WTF, is he blind? SIT WALLACE when you need offense.

ElMatatan · Post #29 » by **ElMatatan** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:09 am

Good Game guys...

LIbullsfan · Post #30 » by **LIbullsfan** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:10 am

Noc with 12 shots in 16 mins and only makes 3. with no other real sf option we were bound to lose

SportsWorld · Post #31 » by **SportsWorld** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:10 am

Bluewaterheaven wrote:Guys Noc was sick and Deng was out... All will be ok

Okay, can you please explain our 20 other losses?

Post #32 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:10 am

I discuss basketball with my boss every morning & he's a Golden State fan, of course.

He said the problems with the bulls is simple- the players are just not as good as people think they are. They are likeable but they really arent very good.

Mr. Tibbs · Post #33 » by **Mr. Tibbs** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:11 am

that wallace for kwame/vladrad thread looks sweet every second.

Angry Jimmy · Post #34 » by **Angry Jimmy** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:11 am

LIbullsfan wrote:Noc with 12 shots in 16 mins and only makes 3. with no other real sf option we were bound to lose

Like I said in the game thread, Noc never met a shot he didn't like.

NewEra · Post #35 » by **NewEra** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

That's what happens when you get so use to gordon beating the knicks and have a dumb coach who allows him to go nut forgetting about everyone else on your team. The Knicks own you.

:rofl:

mr.ankle · Post #36 » by **mr.ankle** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

bulls6 wrote:I discuss basketball with my boss every morning & he's a Golden State fan, of course.

He said the problems with the bulls is simple- the players are just not as good as people think they are. They are likeable but they really arent very good.

The Warriors are Mediocre also

bullzman23 · Post #37 » by **bullzman23** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

To add salt to the wounds, Nate Robinson had a career high 10 assists against us.

JCrossover#1 · Post #38 » by **JCrossover#1** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

bullzman23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He was forced to play out of position. We're vulnerable right now with no healthy SFs.

Well, people cry about the lack of minutes and how we should give some of Noce's minutes to him (apart from those PF minutes). He was terrible.
He should have developed a mid range jumper at least, you cant live and die from dunks unless you play below the rim.
Basically we had two players capable of scoring during most of 4th quarter and one guy (wallace) that did the impossible to get rid of the ball when he was within 1 ft from the basket.

Post #39 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

It was just their night. It was easy to see that. The calls were ridiculous this game and everything they were throwing up was just going in. Even the last play with Marbury, what are the chances of that. After Curry nearly blows the play, Marbury is wide open and actually hits the shot. And our offense was crap that whole 4th.

It doesnt make sense crying a river. We were basically without Noce and Deng.

This isnt one of those tank moments.

Jo Jo English · Post #40 » by **Jo Jo English** » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

With Deng hurt and Noc under the weather, I hate to say I wish we would have seen some more minutes out of Thabo at the three.