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Knicks @ Bulls Postgame Thread: Its a very sad day indeed..

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Post#41 » by NoSkyy » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am

Oh my god we lost to the Knicks?!...

Eh.

At least Tyrus played/had a nice block....
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Post#42 » by pduh01 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:13 am

Here we go again with this 'LETS TANK" talk crap again. I know we loss to the knicks is bad and how bad this season is so far this team. But tanking isn't a good idea. Never was and never will no matter who is on the draft class.
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Post#43 » by bullzman23 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:13 am

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Well, people cry about the lack of minutes and how we should give some of Noce's minutes to him (apart from those PF minutes). He was terrible.
He should have developed a mid range jumper at least, you cant live and die from dunks unless you play below the rim.
Basically we had two players capable of scoring during most of 4th quarter and one guy (wallace) that did the impossible to get rid of the ball when he was within 1 ft from the basket.


People are talking about Noce's minutes at PF not SF.
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Post#44 » by richard » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:13 am

bulls6 wrote:I discuss basketball with my boss every morning & he's a Golden State fan, of course.

He said the problems with the bulls is simple- the players are just not as good as people think they are. They are likeable but they really arent very good.


you know paxson isn't going to do anything about. how likely is it that he makes a trade to fill these holes and upgrade the talent? very unlikely.
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Post#45 » by For Da Team » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:14 am

Noah should have been in for TT, with all due respect! At home you have to find a way to win. BG sometimes is not a very good decision maker and forced shots tonight! I can take a loss but not to the Knicks!
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Post#46 » by Jordan45822 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:14 am

We lose to the Knicks = Season over? *ROLLEYES*
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Post#47 » by Mr. Tibbs » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:14 am

mmk i'm outta here..it's getting too depressing in here.
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Post#48 » by The ROY » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:14 am

I can't agree with ANYONE that think Kirk Hinrich needs to be the bulls starting PG.

This is probably the first season where he just doesn't have 'it' @ all.

Besides Ben and finding out what Thabo can do, I'd trade Du & Kirk. Neither are very talented @ all and it showed vs. Jamal.
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Post#49 » by Bluewaterheaven » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:14 am

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ahahhaha.


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Post#50 » by JCrossover#1 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:15 am

LIbullsfan wrote:Noc with 12 shots in 16 mins and only makes 3. with no other real sf option we were bound to lose


I think it was a questionable move from Boylan. He could have played Thabo or Griffin instead of Noce/Tyrus.
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Post#51 » by LIbullsfan » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:15 am

pduh01 wrote:Here we go again with this 'LETS TANK" talk crap again. I know we loss to the knicks is bad and how bad this season is so far this team. But tanking isn't a good idea. Never was and never will no matter who is on the draft class.


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Post#52 » by coldfish » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:15 am

This loss would have really ticked me off a month or so ago. Now, not so much.

The good:
Gray: Played very well in limited minutes and lead the biggest Bulls run.
Noah: Lots of energy, smart play and good results.
Joe Smith: Steady as a rock.

Mediocre:
Gordon: Scored well, but disappeared late.
Hinrich: Statistically a good game, but pretty bad defense.

Bad:
Duhon: Seemed to be the run maker in that his entry into the game lead to a Knicks run several times.
Tyrus: Not a small forward. It should be noted that things went well for him early when he came in. He was good next to Noah and Gray. However, the late game mistakes really hurt.
Wallace: He had a few points and 6 rebounds early in the game. He basically disappeared the rest of the game as Curry owned his ass. Beyond that, he kept passing up layups to the point where the crowd was booing him.

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The defense: Teams are just murdering the Bulls on the perimeter as EVERYONE continues to leave their man to help onto someone who doesn't need help. Its really painful to watch.
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Post#53 » by Jo Jo English » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:15 am

newera wrote:That's what happens when you get so use to gordon beating the knicks and have a dumb coach who allows him to go nut forgetting about everyone else on your team. The Knicks own you.


:rofl:


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Post#54 » by Rerisen » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:15 am

Just because its funny.

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Post#55 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:16 am

mr.ankle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The Warriors are Mediocre also


They beat San Antonio in overtime yesterday. It's their second win over SA this season.

Before we criticize the warriors, let's see if we can beat some LOSING teams first.

Warriors will not win the title but they are much much better than the Bulls.
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Post#56 » by bre9 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:17 am

The bulls are a weak team they don't know how to score or play defense now. Pax is going to have break em up this is going no where. Awful game by Gordon he rushed to many shots, he didn't act like he was in the game at all.BG needs to get it together if he wants to be an allstar he has to bring it every night.. Kirk made turnovers in key moments. Duhon suck as always. Tyrus is a weak player. Joe Smith is the only player who has been playing well. Noc should have stayed home with his flu, he didn't help at all. I see how this season going to be now up and down there going in a pattern now win..lose...win..lose. Everytime I hope this team is going to get on a winning streak it never happens.
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Post#57 » by JCrossover#1 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:17 am

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People are talking about Noce's minutes at PF not SF.


And they wanted Tyrus @ SF, as well. Heck, here they would play him at PG.
With the way Joe Smith is playing, he wont get too many minutes at PF.
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Post#58 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:17 am

richard wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



you know paxson isn't going to do anything about. how likely is it that he makes a trade to fill these holes and upgrade the talent? very unlikely.


That is why I am frustrated. The team has so many holes & needs - but Johnny apparently likes his players too much to trade any of them.

Of course, he may be willing to trade Ben W - but who wants him?
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Post#59 » by coldfish » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:17 am

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They beat San Antonio in overtime yesterday. It's their second win over SA this season.

Before we criticize the warriors, let's see if we can beat some LOSING teams first.

Warriors will not win the title but they are much much better than the Bulls.


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Post#60 » by girlygirl » Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:17 am

The Bulls stopped playing in the 4th quarter. The ball movement stopped and they forced a ton of bad shots. The defense was poor for much of the night, but the ball movement had been pretty good and they were hitting enough shots and grabbign a lot of offensive boards to stay ahead most of the night. But the execution just disappeared in the last 5 minutes or so.

Deng being hurt and Noc being sick didn't help, but that's a weak excuse. They still should have been able to hold onto a 10-point lead. I think tonight showed that Tyrus isn't ready to play major minutes at SF -- he needs to play solely at the PF spot until he develops a real offensive game. He also needs to STOP TRYING to block every shot. How many goaltendings was he called for? He cost the Bulls at least 6 points -- he has to learn when not to try and block shtos, as well as when he can do so.

As for tanking -- what for? There's no guarantee the Bulls would get a top 3 pick even if the DID tank. Besides that, I don't have any desire to watch a team that loses 70 games, thank you very much.

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