^That's a pretty strong statement.
With Bosh, the same limitations could have been said about Brand for his first couple of years in the NBA.
With Bargs, I think he needs a lot more structure. His development is way behind the rest of his class because of the appendix and the makeup of this team.
It would have been better if him and Bosh had played together in the 27 win season. Chris would have cursed him up and down the court until he manned up. Having Rasho to fall back on has made the evaluation take a lot longer.
To offer a comparison, I wonder if we'd still have CV if we could have subbed in Garbo during Charlie's disappearing acts.
I never expected a 20-8 guy because #1 picks just aren't that kind of guarantee. If we can get him to 15-6, I'll be happy. The only way to find out is to play him.
Sam has a tough job re: Bargnani
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Read this (interview at italian coach, Carlo Recalcati, today, on Bargnani)
"The relative disappointment on Andrea stems from the fact that not has become more continuous, but have the same ups and downs of his first season Nba, very positive. That what wants his coach is good to us: that is more aggressive, take more rebounds and able to defend on a true C"
"The relative disappointment on Andrea stems from the fact that not has become more continuous, but have the same ups and downs of his first season Nba, very positive. That what wants his coach is good to us: that is more aggressive, take more rebounds and able to defend on a true C"
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Yosemite Dan wrote:What is really the point of these threads. Let's just bring it down to the lowest common denominator. If Toronto expects to have a front court of Bosh and Bargs to propel them to an eventual title, they might as well transfer to the WNBA because it ain't happening. How many times were we hoping Bosh would gain some weight and toughen up and eventually become a physical force in the paint. Well it ain't happening. He is what he is. A great player but will never be among the elite and a body type that only allows him to be a finesse type player with range. Nothing wrong with that but he needs some type of physical centre beside him to give him room.
Like the wishful thinking with Bosh so goes it with Bargs. He is and will never be the type of centre, at least on this team, that will propel us to great playoff success as a perfect complement to Bosh. He will never average 10 rebounds a game no matter how hard you wish for it and will never be a force in the paint. He is what he is. A jump shooter who likes to hang around the perimeter, that's never gonna change. It's pretty black and white, BC had visions of international granduer but he screwed up. Case closed, no one's perfect and sooner rather than later it will be time to learn from it and move on. Bargs may eventually become some kind valuable asset on a team that needs his type of ability but not here no matter how we try to rationalize it.
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