Sixers Future

[THFM]

After watching the game last night, and watching sportsnight I heard Iggy left the locker room before the media could talk to him. Yes he could have been rushing to there flight, but let's say he was mad which he clearly was by his body language on the court.

Iggy has the right to be mad. When I watch Evans make the stupidest pases or shots it pisses me off and I'm not on the court. Or when Daly thinks he has a passing game and is turning the ball over like crazy. I don't get mad at Thad or Lou because there still very young and these mistakes are going to happen.

I don't think Iggy wants to leave philly because he said in a interview that he wants to stay in Philly forever, but if he gets a better offer somewhere else he will leave. He won't be getting that offer so he will stay in Philly. I think were all jumping the gun on Iggy a lot and it's sad.

Kobe wanted to be traded and threw Andrew Bynum under the buss and there are playing great basketball right now. Jordan use to get pissed at his team all the time when they messed up. Iverson too, but I think Iverson's approach was horibble. I like Iggy's approach because he is not going to the media and keeping it in house. Let's look at stats for a moment:

PPG 19.0
RPG 5.70
APG 4.6
EFF + 19.17

He is putting up these numbers when he hasn't reached his full potential yet, and without another player on the team drawing double teams. Can you imagine if we had a nice PF who at least has to draw double team in the post this would leave Iggy open when cutting to the basket for easy points.

Not to mention his APG would go up when you have others who could finish around the hoop more. Coming to this conclusion I really think our anwser to PF is Okafor. Why you ask? Well here it is.

Some of you say Okafor shows no passion or effor on the floor and his offense isn't that great. Well did you ever think about if he got a nicer contract, a different change in scenery and coaching might change his attitude and passion?

Look at Rasheed when he got traded. He took his game to another level with Detroit. Alonzo Mourning played horrible in Toronto and New Jersey then in the playoffs with the Heat he was playing like he was when he was 26 years old.

Okafor need to anchor our defense with Daly and he is the only PF we can get right now who can do that. He is a great finisher around the rim and that's all we need. Plus he can run the floor and rebound better then Evans.

Plus he is young and has a lot of time to change. Any PF over the age of 27 is not the anwser for this team. We need to stop with the quick fix method aka Jameison, Smith, Marion.

Josh Smith and Marion aren't even TRUE PF and that is what this team needs and that's what people want more then Okafor? It makes no sense. Finally at last we need a WHOLE new coaching staff and new plays/method to playing the game of basketball with that group.

PG: Miller/Lou/Draft Pick or Lou/Draft Pick
SG: Iggy/Lou/Green
SF: Iggy/Thad
PF: Okafor/Smith/Evans or Okafor/Smith
C: Daly/Anybody not named Clavin Booth

[ankle420breaker]

Iguodala's frustration is justified, but he needs to show a little more self control in regards to his body language on the court. Blatant anger on the court coming from your leader is discouraging to a young team. I love his passion and desire to win, but he needs to understand that a team of this caliber is going to go through nasty stretches and will lose games that they are supposed to win.

I've been a supporter of the Okafor idea for a few reasons:

1. He's a defensive minded big who can solidify our front court on both ends and crash the boards about as well as anyone in the league.
2. Does compliment Dalembert
3. He's a realistic option for us... theres no guarantee Charlotte matches offers for him
4. He's still got the clock on his side... fits in long term

[The Sixer Fixer]

I'm not a supporter of Okafor because he's too slow IMO to defend at the 4 spot. In today's NBA, 4's are much more athletic and smaller than they were in the past. Many play a perimeter oriented game. It's well documented that Okafor does not play well when he's asked to defend from anywhere but under the basket. Charlotte actually tried to experiment with him and Mohammad playing together, but it wasn't working because Okafor was being pulled out from under the basket. His best position is C on the D end.

Now you may think that's OK casue Sam can defend the 4's since he's more athletic. I don't see that either. Every time Sam has a matcup with a guy who can play outside he gets abused. He could not defend guys like Bargnani and Okur since they have range out to 3 pt land. They pulled him out from under the basket and his one defensive asset (blockng shots) was taken away.

A front court of Okafor and Sam is VERY weak offensively too. Neither guy would be considered a goto guy. They get most their points from what others create for them (dunks) or from offensive reb putbacks.

We need a 4 who can score from the post...period! Guys like Brand, Gasol fit the profile. Marion is more a perimeter guy, but he does have some post skills as well so he's an OK option (helped cause he can play uptempo). For what you will have to pay Okafor and the fact that you will be committed to him for 5 years, I will pass on that unless all other FA/trade options fail

[THFM]

I'm not a supporter of Okafor because he's too slow IMO to defend at the 4 spot. In today's NBA, 4's are much more athletic and smaller than they were in the past. Many play a perimeter oriented game. It's well documented that Okafor does not play well when he's asked to defend from anywhere but under the basket. Charlotte actually tried to experiment with him and Mohammad playing together, but it wasn't working because Okafor was being pulled out from under the basket. His best position is C on the D end.

Now you may think that's OK casue Sam can defend the 4's since he's more athletic. I don't see that either. Every time Sam has a matcup with a guy who can play outside he gets abused. He could not defend guys like Bargnani and Okur since they have range out to 3 pt land. They pulled him out from under the basket and his one defensive asset (blockng shots) was taken away.

A front court of Okafor and Sam is VERY weak offensively too. Neither guy would be considered a goto guy. They get most their points from what others create for them (dunks) or from offensive reb putbacks.

We need a 4 who can score from the post...period! Guys like Brand, Gasol fit the profile. Marion is more a perimeter guy, but he does have some post skills as well so he's an OK option (helped cause he can play uptempo). For what you will have to pay Okafor and the fact that you will be committed to him for 5 years, I will pass on that unless all other FA/trade options fail

Gasol is very weak on defense. He is a littel better defensily then evans and that's not saying much. Remember defense wins championships and okafor is the key. okafor has way better o game then dayl ever will adn your talking about three bigs that can stretch out the d. Dirk, Jamison, and bargani are the best bigs taht hit long rane shots along with brad miller. so because of 4 players we shouldn't get okafor?

[SendEm]

Don't you all realize what a restricted free agent is? It means we have no shot at getting that player. Restricted.LOL

[ankle420breaker]

I'm not a supporter of Okafor because he's too slow IMO to defend at the 4 spot. In today's NBA, 4's are much more athletic and smaller than they were in the past. Many play a perimeter oriented game. It's well documented that Okafor does not play well when he's asked to defend from anywhere but under the basket. Charlotte actually tried to experiment with him and Mohammad playing together, but it wasn't working because Okafor was being pulled out from under the basket. His best position is C on the D end.

Now you may think that's OK casue Sam can defend the 4's since he's more athletic. I don't see that either. Every time Sam has a matcup with a guy who can play outside he gets abused. He could not defend guys like Bargnani and Okur since they have range out to 3 pt land. They pulled him out from under the basket and his one defensive asset (blockng shots) was taken away.

A front court of Okafor and Sam is VERY weak offensively too. Neither guy would be considered a goto guy. They get most their points from what others create for them (dunks) or from offensive reb putbacks.

We need a 4 who can score from the post...period! Guys like Brand, Gasol fit the profile. Marion is more a perimeter guy, but he does have some post skills as well so he's an OK option (helped cause he can play uptempo). For what you will have to pay Okafor and the fact that you will be committed to him for 5 years, I will pass on that unless all other FA/trade options fail

Okafor is known for his defense in the paint. I'd actually see Thad getting the majority of assignments on opposing 4's that hang out on the perimeter. Either way you look at it, I don't see an addition of Okafor hurting our defense.

I think Okafor could handle 14-16ppg if it were demanded from him. He's really not a bad offensive player, but I do agree that we need more of a threat from the post such as Gasol or Brand. Okafor doesn't provide this. Okafor doesn't top my list, but he's definitely on it and I think its a more realistic possibility than the likes of Brand, Josh Smith, Gasol.

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Dirk, Jamison, and bargani are the best bigs taht hit long rane shots along with brad miller. so because of 4 players we shouldn't get okafor?

Theres more than 4 PF's in the league that can hurt us from the perimeter.

Rasheed Wallace
Troy Murphy
David West
Okur
Villanueva
Yi
Tim Thomas

[Sixerscan]

Sam can cover most of those guys. He doesn't get beat off the dribble anymore than most PFs. It's just that we don't have anyone behind him to cover him when he gets beat. Okafor would change that.

[The Sixer Fixer]

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Gasol is very weak on defense. He is a littel better defensily then evans and that's not saying much. Remember defense wins championships and okafor is the key. okafor has way better o game then dayl ever will adn your talking about three bigs that can stretch out the d. Dirk, Jamison, and bargani are the best bigs taht hit long rane shots along with brad miller. so because of 4 players we shouldn't get okafor?

Compared to Okafor, I agree Gasol is weaker on D. Offensively there is no comparison between the 2. I don't think you need to have a great defensive PF AND C. If one is good and the other is adequate (Gasol is at least that) I think that's fine. I do think you must have some level of post offense to win just like you need to have good D.

As far as PF's who can stretch the floor, there's way more than what you stated. Bargnani, Jamison, Dirk, Marion, Garnett, Bosh, R. Wallace, Murphy, Yi, R. Lewis, G. Wallace (they play PF for Orlando/Charlotte so I have to include them, Josh Smith, Gasol, Aldridge, Boozer, Odom, Al Harrington....those are all guys who primarlily play PF and they all, at a minimum, have very good mid-range games. Many of them can play out to the 3 pt line. I actually think there's more perimeter based PF's in the league than there are post based ones right now. Some teams have moved those post based PF's to C just like Charlotte has done with Okafor. Other examples are Amare, D. Howard, J. O'Neal and Horford.

[THFM]

Don't you all realize what a restricted free agent is? It means we have no shot at getting that player. Restricted.LOL

We can still get him by offering him to the signging sheet...

[PhilasFinest]

Gasol is a stud down low with his post moves and is EXACTLY what we need...id love him here but then again...if we add him to this team are we a mid-seeded playoff team???

getting him would likely involve sending our 1st rounder to The Grizz which has me somewhat iffy.