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Post#1 » by DH34Phan » Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:13 pm

Milwaukee trades:

Michael Redd
and
Bobby Simmons

Miami trades:

Alonzo Mourning
Jason Williams
Ricky Davis
Dorell Wright
2009 1st rounder pick

Why for Milwaukee? Sheds Michael Redd's and Bobby Simmons' contract while receiving expiring contracts, and a future stud in Dorell Wright, in an area we need (SF). We also get a 1st round pick in 2009.

Why for Miami? They see what Boston is doing with their Big 3. Could Wade, Redd, and Shaq compete?
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Post#2 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:37 pm

Been discussed quite a bit in different variations but I would probably do this deal if we could somehow get Daequan Cook in the deal as well. Add Gadz and CV for Blount and Cook.

Us
Mo Williams/Jason Williams/Ivey
Daequan Cook/Charlie Bell
Dorell Wright/Ricky Davis
Yi Jianlian/Michael Ruffin
Andrew Bogut/Mark Blount

Them
Wade
Redd
Simmons
Haslem
Shaq

Tough for Miami since Wade becomes their primary PG, but still gives them a chance for one more run at it with the fire power Redd and CV bring. For us we clear tons of salary sooner, get two good young players, and another pick next year which I would try to use along with our own to move up and get Derrick Rose. Fantasy land I know, but thats what most trades on here are.
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Post#3 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:41 pm

Miami probably waits as long as possible to make this trade. I understand that the conference sucks and they have an outside shot at the playoffs but I think they are pretty much done there. They might as well tank and trade for Redd as late as possible and then add one of the top 5 prospects in this upcoming draft that is pretty deep.

EDIT: I've always been a fan of this or most other trades involving Redd so sign me up.
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Post#4 » by aaprigs311 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:53 pm

DUDE, the bucks don't need more SMALL FOWARDS. they need a force in the paint. no one seems to understand that. the bucks need a proven big man too, not a project guy.. we got enough of those kind. i could give two poops if they trade redd or whoever, but GET A BIG! i say go after brand, injured and all. give em' redd and whoever the hell they want, tank the rest of the season and hope eric gordon from IU declares.
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Post#5 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:59 pm

aaprigs311 wrote:DUDE, the bucks don't need more SMALL FOWARDS. they need a force in the paint. no one seems to understand that. the bucks need a proven big man too, not a project guy.. we got enough of those kind. i could give two poops if they trade redd or whoever, but GET A BIG! i say go after brand, injured and all. give em' redd and whoever the hell they want, tank the rest of the season and hope eric gordon from IU declares.


Ricky Davis plays the position of EC (Expiring Contract) not SF (Small Forward)

We have Bogut and Yi as bigs and CV is big but plays smaller. We can work on a big later when we have some flexibility financially(without Simmons/Redd)
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Post#6 » by Simulack » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:00 am

aaprigs311 wrote:they need a force in the paint. no one seems to understand that.


You are right. Harris should have traded Redd for Duncan a long time ago. This guy is clueless and needs to go go as the Bucks GM.
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Post#7 » by Buck You » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:03 am

aaprigs311 wrote:DUDE, the bucks don't need more SMALL FOWARDS. they need a force in the paint. no one seems to understand that. the bucks need a proven big man too, not a project guy.. we got enough of those kind. i could give two poops if they trade redd or whoever, but GET A BIG! i say go after brand, injured and all. give em' redd and whoever the hell they want, tank the rest of the season and hope eric gordon from IU declares.


Is that you MBBOT?
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Post#8 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:21 am

Here is my unrealistic but effective 3way deal with the Lakers gearing up for a playoff run as well.


Milwaukee Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
6-5 SG from Ohio State
9.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 21.4 minutes

Dorell Wright
6-8 SF from Leuzinger (HS)
7.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.2 minutes

Alonzo Mourning
6-10 C from Georgetown
5.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 15.6 minutes

Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
4.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 14.5 minutes

Jason Williams
6-1 PG from Florida
8.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 5.2 apg in 30.5 minutes

Javaris Crittenton
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
3.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 7.9 minutes

Kwame Brown
6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
5.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.3 minutes

2009 1st Rounder (Top 5 protected) from MIA
2008 1st Rounder (unprotected) from LAL


Outgoing Players

Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 20.4 minutes

Charlie Bell
6-3 PG from Michigan State
5.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes

Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
3.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.2 minutes

Bobby Simmons
6-6 SF from DePaul
6.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 21.7 minutes

Michael Redd
6-6 SG from Ohio State
23.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 38.1 minutes

Miami Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
3.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.2 minutes

Bobby Simmons
6-6 SF from DePaul
6.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 21.7 minutes

Michael Redd
6-6 SG from Ohio State
23.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 38.1 minutes

Jordan Farmar
6-2 PG from UCLA
9.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.7 apg in 20.4 minutes

Outgoing Players
Daequan Cook
6-5 SG from Ohio State
9.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 21.4 minutes

Dorell Wright
6-8 SF from Leuzinger (HS)
7.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.2 minutes

Alonzo Mourning
6-10 C from Georgetown
5.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 15.6 minutes

Ricky Davis
6-7 SG from Iowa
15.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.9 apg in 36.9 minutes

Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
4.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 14.5 minutes

Jason Williams
6-1 PG from Florida
8.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 5.2 apg in 30.5 minutes

2009 First Rounder (top 5 protected)

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.7 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 20.4 minutes

Charlie Bell
6-3 PG from Michigan State
5.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 20.8 minutes

Ricky Davis
6-7 SG from Iowa
15.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.9 apg in 36.9 minutes

Outgoing Players
Jordan Farmar
6-2 PG from UCLA
9.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.7 apg in 20.4 minutes

Javaris Crittenton
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
3.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 7.9 minutes

Kwame Brown
6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
5.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.3 minutes

2008 First Rounder (unprotected)

For Miami, they retool to make another run. They get the best player in the deal and a PG to prevent Wade from getting too much time at PG. This team could make a run in the East this year.

Jordan Farmar
D-Wade
Michael Redd
Udonis Haslem
Shaq

Their depth is admittingly lacking but so are the Celtics and it seems to be going pretty good for them.

For the Lakers, they turn Kwame and a few most likely lower level prospects into serious talent to make their own run this year and to keep Kobe happy. Bell is perfect for the triangle offense and both he and Charlie V are coming around as of late. They still keep financial flexibility as Ricky expires after this season as well.

Derek Fisher
Kobe
Ricky Davis
Lamar Odom
Andrew Bynum

with Charlie V, Charlie B, Walton, Ariza, and Turiaf, they have a deep squad.

For us, we dump a huge amount of salary after this year (about 18 million if I calculated correctly), get a pretty impressive haul of young players and picks, and start to restructure a franchise that is in dire need of it.

Mo Williams
Daequan Cook
Dorell Wright
Yi Jianlian
Andrew Bogut
is our core going into the future.

we also pick up a good combo guard prospect in Critt, and have our own pick, LA's this year, and Miami's next year, which again I would use in an attempt to move up and get Rose (even if it possibly meant giving up Mo, yes he's that good). We also have oogles of cap space and while Blount has a bigger deal than Gadz it is one year shorter.
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Post#9 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:42 am

Id love that trade but cant see LA doing it. Talent and value wise I see it like this
CV=Farmar
Bell<Critt
Kwame>Davis (bigger expiring)
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