Lakers, most likely in 6.
Denver needs to prove that it can win in the playoffs before I take them seriously.
LOL at the guy who said the Spurs were a good matchup for Denver. Didn't the Spurs eliminate Denver in the 1st round like every year since Melo was drafted?
Denver nuggets vs Los angeles lakers 7 game series
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realfung wrote:I think the Denver will win......forget about the Lakers' recent bubble....
Denver is better.......when you come to playoffs series...
1. Ai + Melo = 60 pts, 15 assists, 15 boards
2. Bynum will be schooled by Camby and Martin
3. Kobe will be selfish again.
Ha Ha HAAAHHAAA HAA HAAA ................ NO
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The play of the Lakers on both ends can't be dismissed. Specifically defensively. What actually happened isn't a ridiculous claim. If it was so ridiculous, there'd be more of a balance in the feelings of people who saw that game. From what I remember in threads relating to that game (there were at least two), and from this thread, the consensus doesn't side with what you're saying.
Need to realize the full perspective, rather than mostly one side of things that happened.
Keep in mind the "consensus" is that mcgrady deserves to start the all-star game.
That says a lot about the "consensus" opinion.
I also know and I think most honest folks would agree that there is a huge contingent of laker/kobe fans on realgm that heavily biases opinions. After a while a lot of folks just develop group-think or let "peer" pressure or the consensus opinion shape their perception of things. I mean how do folks get away with ranking joe johnson higher than AI and still have credibility.
Couple that with a slant against certain players like a melo or AI and you have all kinds of outlandish claims being made in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Just yesterday a LA fan tried to argue me down about whether Kobe was in foul trouble. He even went as far as to say, Kobe only got one foul guarding AI. When the game play by play transcript is right there on espn for all to see. And when I posted the play by play transcript which clearly recorded Kobe having three fouls in five minutes guarding AI, suddenly the guy dissappeared and everybody acted like they didnt see the post.
but hey it is what it is. I think that's the way fans of a team or player should be. it makes the game that much more interesting. I mean here we have two opinions that are completely different and come playoffs I have a sneaking suspicion it really will be LA versus Denver in the first round. And we'll see who's really correct. LA fans deserve props for their confidence, optimism and loyalty. No matter what Kobe does or how subpar he plays, they still believe he's the best player on the planet. No matter what other players are doing elsewhere that is clearly better, they still find a way to overrate him and the lakers through something subjective like defense or "making other players better."
thats the way fans should be. I do wonder what his rep would be in another city with more critical fans like a denver or philly or new york.
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Tom Baker wrote:Lakers, most likely in 6.
Denver needs to prove that it can win in the playoffs before I take them seriously.
LOL at the guy who said the Spurs were a good matchup for Denver. Didn't the Spurs eliminate Denver in the 1st round like every year since Melo was drafted?
Denvers made a lot of changes in style and roster. They played san antonio as tough as anybody last year with an AI playing like garbage. Don't see lightning striking twice in that regard... either way im sure denver would rather folks underestimate them, just make it easier to get the upset.
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It looks to me like you're just copying the game log verbatim. You could make Jason Kidd look like he belongs in the euro league by just listing who takes the shots, because the guy doesn't shoot much.
What I saw in that game was Kobe and Ariza applying pressure to AI as soon as he touched the ball in the 4th. He wasn't taking the shots because he couldn't get them. I have already conceded that AI was less aggressive in that quarter, but I think the Lakers' defense had something to do with that (and coaching as well). The Lakers changed up their defense in that quarter and did something they didn't do the entire first 3 quarters.
You mention Kobe fouling AI 3 times, but as I already mentioned earlier, the guy was just untouchable that night. He got blessed with a foul call on one play where he tripped, pushed his defender down just so he could keep his balance, and the defender got called for a foul (can't remember who it was). Another play he tripped on his own feet, fell down and it was a foul (like the famous phantom foul Wade got against the Blazers a while back). It was a complete joke.
It looks to me like you're just copying the game log verbatim. You could make Jason Kidd look like he belongs in the euro league by just listing who takes the shots, because the guy doesn't shoot much.
What I saw in that game was Kobe and Ariza applying pressure to AI as soon as he touched the ball in the 4th. He wasn't taking the shots because he couldn't get them. I have already conceded that AI was less aggressive in that quarter, but I think the Lakers' defense had something to do with that (and coaching as well). The Lakers changed up their defense in that quarter and did something they didn't do the entire first 3 quarters.
You mention Kobe fouling AI 3 times, but as I already mentioned earlier, the guy was just untouchable that night. He got blessed with a foul call on one play where he tripped, pushed his defender down just so he could keep his balance, and the defender got called for a foul (can't remember who it was). Another play he tripped on his own feet, fell down and it was a foul (like the famous phantom foul Wade got against the Blazers a while back). It was a complete joke.
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ROFL at the people saying the Nuggets would win. Lakers could probably beat the Suns in a 7 game series...yet they can't beat a poor man's version of the Suns?
nuggets have what the suns don't. interior defense, and defense in general. bynum would likely destroy phoenix in a series right now because amare is an atrocious defender, and skinner's not gonna see a lot of minutes....but the combo of camby/nene/martin make it very tough on the best player in the league to get his (duncan). they wouldn't struggle much shutting down a 20 year old kid that hasn't seen substantial playoff minutes before. plus melo/iverson/nene wouldn't have trouble getting bynum in foul trouble every game. and outside of fisher's leadership...bynum's the only true difference in the lakers this season as compared to the previous two.
Denver needs to prove that it can win in the playoffs before I take them seriously.
because the shaq-less lakers have been impressive in that regard, and you take them seriously because of all their recent playoff success?
and the 4 teams that denver took to the playoffs in previous years (and lost with) all had a lineup including allen iverson?
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obviously i've sounded like i'm arguing for the nuggets winning the series, but i'm not really. i think the lakers would take it, and i think many nuggets fans would agree. the issue i have with posters (and lakers homers) in this thread is that they're pointing out all the wrong reasons.
its not because denver doesn't play defense (they're 4th in defensive efficiency). its not because iverson would be shut down by trevor ariza. its not because of denver's record at staples center. its not because kobe would score 60 a game on carter.
its because jackson would coach the balls off george karl.
he gets maturity, consistency, poise & production out of all his role players (farmar, walton, turiaf, ariza)....and karl gives his role players (smith, diawara, kleiza) random DNP-CDs throughout the season, has their confidence wavering, has them questioning themselves and their decisions...and if things start to go south he'll scapegoat them in the media.
jackson would come up with some sort of strategy to make denver beat him from the perimeter with role players, and karl's game plan for the whole series would be to tell his 7 man rotation to "be aggressive"
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floris_ wrote:There are way too many delusional Nuget fans on this forum.
L.A is loaded with talent and Lakers got Bryant. Bynum will dominate at the end of the season like the stud he is. Fisher is propably the 2nd best roleplayer other than horry who will be shooting 50% come playoff time. Odom will be able to bring like he always does in April.
L.A is such a great team. If it wasnt for the Suns last year they could have gone to the finals just like the Jazz did.
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