Bynum vs. Shaq
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Bynum vs. Shaq
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Bynum vs. Shaq
Who would you take right now? basing on the fact that your team would make the playoffs?
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This comparison would be more fair if you had replaced Shaq with Duncan. No, make it Howard. Bynum can already do everything that Duncan can(now it's just a matter of minutes, only reason he's not playing more is that Kwame is a very capable backup, and they're winning so easily, no need to risk injury by playing him more than necessary.)
People look at Bynum's numbers and think 13 and 10 is a lot more inferior than 19 and 11, but in truth, his EFF(which takes into account "subtle stats" like FG% and TOs) isn't very far from Duncan's. In fact, his EFF would surpass Duncan's, if he played the same number of minutes.
People look at Bynum's numbers and think 13 and 10 is a lot more inferior than 19 and 11, but in truth, his EFF(which takes into account "subtle stats" like FG% and TOs) isn't very far from Duncan's. In fact, his EFF would surpass Duncan's, if he played the same number of minutes.
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Are you seriously suggesting that Bynum is a Top 3 player in the game, considering that's what Duncan is, since his impact is far beyond the statistics in which he has a huge advantage in as well.
I mean I'd probably take Bynum over Shaq as well for the regular season just because he's more reliable, but let's not get out of hand.....There's nothing Bynum does better than Duncan.
I mean I'd probably take Bynum over Shaq as well for the regular season just because he's more reliable, but let's not get out of hand.....There's nothing Bynum does better than Duncan.
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Lakers05 wrote:This comparison would be more fair if you had replaced Shaq with Duncan. No, make it Howard. Bynum can already do everything that Duncan can(now it's just a matter of minutes, only reason he's not playing more is that Kwame is a very capable backup, and they're winning so easily, no need to risk injury by playing him more than necessary.)
People look at Bynum's numbers and think 13 and 10 is a lot more inferior than 19 and 11, but in truth, his EFF(which takes into account "subtle stats" like FG% and TOs) isn't very far from Duncan's. In fact, his EFF would surpass Duncan's, if he played the same number of minutes.
Alright first of all, your are serious, and this is just a disgrace to Duncan. In 1997 the San Antonio spurs drafted Tim Duncan with the the first pick in the NBA draft. Duncan automatically made in an impact averaging 21pts, close to 12 rebounds, and 2.5 block shots per game, and made the all star game. The 2nd year Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first NBA championship, beating out the league MVP Karl Malone and the favored Utah Jazz. Duncan is a career 21pt, 12reb, 2.5blks, 3ast, and on 50% shooting. Since Duncan's arrival the Spurs are also the winning est team up till now having won 71% of their games. Duncan is also a two time MVP, back to back may I add, and 3 time Finals MVP, with 4 championship rings. Duncan currently can lead a team to a championship scoring 21pts and 10reb. He is regarded by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as one of the greatest NBA PF to ever play the game. You even mentioning that is a disgrace, and Duncan and Bynum's name will never be used in the same context. And the fact that you said that makes me think that your post is one of the most stupidest posts I have ever seen. It is an outrage that you ever said that, Duncan is greater not better then Bynum, and Bynum can average what ever points he wants, and he will still be < Duncan, ALWAYS.
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TMACFORMVP wrote:Are you seriously suggesting that Bynum is a Top 3 player in the game, considering that's what Duncan is, since his impact is far beyond the statistics in which he has a huge advantage in as well.
I mean I'd probably take Bynum over Shaq as well for the regular season just because he's more reliable, but let's not get out of hand.....There's nothing Bynum does better than Duncan.
Duncan USED to be a top-3 player, he's not a top-3 player this season. Bynum is also improving every week. At the end of the year, I'll be surprised if Bynum doesn't just surpass Duncan outright.
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Alright first of all, your are serious, and this is just a disgrace to Duncan. In 1997 the San Antonio spurs drafted Tim Duncan with the the first pick in the NBA draft. Duncan automatically made in an impact averaging 21pts, close to 12 rebounds, and 2.5 block shots per game, and made the all star game. The 2nd year Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first NBA championship, beating out the league MVP Karl Malone and the favored Utah Jazz. Duncan is a career 21pt, 12reb, 2.5blks, 3ast, and on 50% shooting. Since Duncan's arrival the Spurs are also the winning est team up till now having won 71% of their games. Duncan is also a two time MVP, back to back may I add, and 3 time Finals MVP, with 4 championship rings. Duncan currently can lead a team to a championship scoring 21pts and 10reb. He is regarded by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as one of the greatest NBA PF to ever play the game. You even mentioning that is a disgrace, and Duncan and Bynum's name will never be used in the same context. And the fact that you said that makes me think that your post is one of the most stupidest posts I have ever seen. It is an outrage that you ever said that, Duncan is greater not better then Bynum, and Bynum can average what ever points he wants, and he will still be < Duncan, ALWAYS.
The guy said this year, not what Duncan's done in the past
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Umm alright even this year Duncan is leading a team to success and is averaging 21pts 11 reb 3 ast and over 2blks. Duncan yes is still considered a top 3 player, you can trade him to any team, and that team will see immediate results. Your basically indicating that Bynum givin more playing time can do the same?
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Lakers05 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Duncan USED to be a top-3 player, he's not a top-3 player this season. Bynum is also improving every week. At the end of the year, I'll be surprised if Bynum doesn't just surpass Duncan outright.
He was the best player in the NBA last season and considered no lower than #2 last season only behind possibly Kobe.
His intangibles are unmatched. He anchors year in and year out the best defensive team in the NBA, the best post player in the NBA, always near the top in the rebounding and his leadership and ability to dominate the game for a big man isn't matched in the league currently. Not to mention, he's the best player on the best team in the Western Conference and the defending NBA Champs.
Not to mention, since coming back from the injury, he's playing more like the Duncan last year who IMHO was the best player in the NBA. (Past 10 games.....)
20.5 points per game
14.2 points per game
4.1 assists per game
1.5 blocks per game
I really like Bynum and it seems like I'm hating on him from the Yao thread (even though I did say Bynum has more potential and will likely be the better player in the future) but comparing him to Duncan is a joke. There's nothing on the floor, Bynum does better than Duncan except dunk.
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Yea, Cmon I love Bynum. I mean I think he is already a good player who has all the potential in the world. But Tim Duncan? Duncan is arguably a top 10 player of all time and still putting up great numbers on a great team. Duncan and Shaq are the only players right now that I consider above Kobe in all time greatness.
Maybe. Maybe, Bynum surpasses Duncan eventually. But right now...NO!
Maybe. Maybe, Bynum surpasses Duncan eventually. But right now...NO!
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Lakers05 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Duncan USED to be a top-3 player, he's not a top-3 player this season. Bynum is also improving every week. At the end of the year, I'll be surprised if Bynum doesn't just surpass Duncan outright.
Holy christ you make Laker fans look stupid. Do us all a favor and take a long walk off a short cliff.
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Lakers05 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Duncan USED to be a top-3 player, he's not a top-3 player this season. Bynum is also improving every week. At the end of the year, I'll be surprised if Bynum doesn't just surpass Duncan outright.
Bynum will even surpass Kobe this season.
Seriously, lay off the crack pipe son
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comparing a bynum who knows how long has been playin ball
compared to duncan who only played ball when he was 13, correct me if im wrong...
hell i take a rookie tim duncan over todays bynum
rookie td was great to watch, the low post moves etc are vaporating from his arsenal of moves today....20 10 and coasting? yeh give me that
compared to duncan who only played ball when he was 13, correct me if im wrong...
hell i take a rookie tim duncan over todays bynum
rookie td was great to watch, the low post moves etc are vaporating from his arsenal of moves today....20 10 and coasting? yeh give me that
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