Willie Green needs to go ASAP

Post #21 » by **tk76** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:49 am

Our team falling apart might not be the best thing for LW, young and Smith's game. not to mention Dala might have an aneurism from grimacing so badly.

Post #22 » by **The Guilty Party** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:56 am

tk76 wrote:Our team falling apart might not be the best thing for LW, young and Smith's game. not to mention Dala might have an aneurism from grimacing so badly.

Hey man, we tried that gimmick last year. Remember when everyone, myself included, thought the team should lose, Lose, LOSE so that we could get a higher pick but our team and front office thought that by winning it would help our young players develop? Well, it's a year later and now Billy King is gone, Kyle is gone, half of the people want Iguodala gone, Shav isn't even talked about and we're still in the same place.

I say we try the tanking thing this year and see where that gets us.

Post #23 » by **tk76** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:58 am

Last year with Oden and Durant out there I was on board. I'm not as sold by the talent level of this years draft- and I really though top five was out of reach when LW was playing well.

Now I may be back on board the crapwagon.

Post #24 » by **The Guilty Party** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:05 am

The top of this draft really doesn't get me all that excited but it's better than the middle of it. Also, the higher the pick, the more value the pick will have so that perhaps Ed can pull a "Danny Ainge" and trade the pick for a decent player and add another big name via free agency.

noone · Post #25 » by **noone** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:19 am

This may be one of the only threads that will not see an arguement of some sort.

I'm all for keeping Green until the end of the season. We aren't going to get anything of value for him (expiring, young player). At the very least he helps the team in the lottery standings by making us worse. I know it's hard to watch, but since the beginning of the season for me it's been hard to watch the Sixers winning any games.

we have the 10th worst record. What does this say of the 9 teams currently worse than us?

They play in the West? And we actually have the 8th worst record now. I think the Clippers and Memphis are better than us. The Bobcats are as good. That puts us in the bottom 5.

Despite losing a bit of faith in December, I am now back on board with the belief that we will finish in the bottom 7 for worst record.

I still think we finish in the bottom 5 especially after looking at the March schedule.

Last year with Oden and Durant out there I was on board. I'm not as sold by the talent level of this years draft-

This draft may not have as much talent as last but that still doesn't change the fact that the Sixers don't have close to enough talent on the roster to compete for a championship even if we were to hit big in FA this season AND keep Miller. The Sixers in the worst way NEED to get lucky in this draft if they have any hopes of competing for the championship any time in the near future. Assuming we get a big time player, with or without Miller this may be the last chance to get a top 10 pick, let alone a top 5 pick, in the near future.

PhilasFinest · Post #26 » by **PhilasFinest** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:24 am

We need a scorer BIG TIME...someone who can go off and be a go 2 guy on offense.whether it be in the post or a guard we need soemone badly...this team has 0 offensive identity.

hopefully we can address one of them via the draft and the other through FA.
im just hoping for a top 5 pick....
we'd be able to land either Rose Beasley Mayo Gordon or Jordan(assuming they all come out)....and if not id be happy with Arthur or Hibbert.

Post #27 » by **The Guilty Party** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:28 am

Memphis (10-24) and the Clippers (10-22) do not have worse records than us although you are right... we are now the 8th worst team in the league even though we have more wins than Chicago and Sacramento.

Of the 7 teams with worse records than us, 3 of them are in the East so it's not as though being in the East is any advantage. If anything, since the East is so unbalanced, it's actually a disadvantage as far as trying to remain at the bottom.

noone · Post #28 » by **noone** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:39 am

Memphis (10-24) and the Clippers (10-22) do not have worse records than us although you are right... we are now the 8th worst team in the league even though we have more wins than Chicago and Sacramento.

How do Memphis (.294) and the Clippers (.313) not have worse records than us (.389)?

Of the 7 teams with worse records than us, 3 of them are in the East so it's not as though being in the East is any advantage. If anything, since the East is so unbalanced, it's actually a disadvantage as far as trying to remain at the bottom.

If the Sixers were in the West they would have to face much tougher teams, hence their record would be worse than it is now. Because of easier competition, it's harder to remain at bottom in the East. But the only point I was trying to make was that even though a team has a worse record in the West, doesn't necessarily mean they're worse than us.

Post #29 » by **The Guilty Party** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:44 am

Wait... I mistyped that. I was trying to state that Memphis and the Clippers DO have worse records than us which is why I posted their W/L record.

The reason I posted their W/L record was due to yet another screw up in which I thought you were trying to say that Memphis and the Clippers have a better record than us. Now that I reread that, I see that all you were saying was that you believe Memphis and the Clippers have better teams (not records) than us.

noone wrote:They play in the West? And we actually have the 8th worst record now. I think the Clippers and Memphis are better than us. The Bobcats are as good. That puts us in the bottom 5.

It's late and my mind is screwing up way too much. I am out.

freshie2 · Post #30 » by **freshie2** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:21 am

They can't move Green until after the blood drive...he's here for at least a few more weeks.

LieCheatSteal · Post #31 » by **LieCheatSteal** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:23 pm

I never quite understood the Green signing in the first place. Why did he get the money and contract that he did? I didn't follow the Sixers closely when Iverson was here but it seems like he would be a bad compliment to Iverson ie a chucker. Unless the team's intention at that time was for Green to be a backup to AI and take all the shots that AI would take if he was on the court.

I think Green will be moved eventually. However, who's going to replace his offense? Korver's gone. Carney can't hack it. This team would be in trouble to score unless they do the rumoured Orlando deal that would bring back Redick maybe. Then, most of the people who complain about Green would probably just say the same thing about Redick.

Post #32 » by **dbodner** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:42 pm

I think Green will be moved eventually. However, who's going to replace his offense?

I'm sure we won't have to spend that many resources to replace a 40% shooting, sub 1 pps shooting guard.

Then, most of the people who complain about Green would probably just say the same thing about Redick.

Why is Redick's name coming up like people would actually want him?

PhillyRocks1 · Post #33 » by **PhillyRocks1** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:56 pm

I'll take Willie Green over 36% shooting Louis Williams for sure.

sec-106 · Post #34 » by **sec-106** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:16 pm

freshie2 wrote:They can't move Green until after the blood drive...he's here for at least a few more weeks.

I'll give a gallon if he goes NOW.

bigdavid · Post #35 » by **bigdavid** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:18 pm

Bring back Korver. Maybe we could trade Green for Korver. We haven't a player who can shoot a 3 or even a 2

freshie2 · Post #36 » by **freshie2** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:47 pm

dbodner wrote:
I think Green will be moved eventually. However, who's going to replace his offense?

I'm sure we won't have to spend that many resources to replace a 40% shooting, sub 1 pps shooting guard.

Then, most of the people who complain about Green would probably just say the same thing about Redick.

Why is Redick's name coming up like people would actually want him?

I think Redick comes up as Orlando has other expiring deals...I don't think a 1 for 1 deal for Redick works, or makes sense.

will · Post #37 » by **will** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:52 pm

Will be pretty tough to find someone to disagree with this thread :rofl:

dond · Post #38 » by **dond** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:08 am

Isn't it interesting to revisit some of these threads periodically ? Anyone ... feel free to adjust your comments ...

PhillyRocks1 · Post #39 » by **PhillyRocks1** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:27 am

The guy is shooting just under 50% since Dec. 1st. Well before WILL before you made that post. As I have stated not once, not twice and not 3x's. Green should be shooting the ball more and less minutes provided to Williams.

Bandwagon jumpers, gotta love em.

dond · Post #40 » by **dond** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:58 pm

PhillyRocks1 wrote:The guy is shooting just under 50% since Dec. 1st. Well before WILL before you made that post. As I have stated not once, not twice and not 3x's. Green should be shooting the ball more and less minutes provided to Williams.

Bandwagon jumpers, gotta love em.

LOL .... If you are suggesting that I am jumping on the Willie Green bandwagon you don't spend much time on this forum. I have been ... as they say ... DRINKING THE KOOL-AID about Willie Green since the beginning of time ... LOL ....