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Post#121 » by tk76 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:28 pm

He is not going to be a Max player. 5 year p[layers can be Maxed starting at 13.5M. he likely will get between 10-11M. Older vets get get larger max salaries- like the 20M/yr that Kidd, Shaq, Jermain Oneil, AI and other stars get.

Dala will end up with about 1/2 of what those players make. his salary will not destroy our future cap- and at worste he will be overpaid by 1-2M more per year than what some other starting good SF's make- which won't kill their cap.

Your cap worries are pretty much unfounded> If you think he is a mediocore player I can't help you.
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Post#122 » by 9th Wonder » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:41 pm

tk76 wrote:If Young turns out to be the answer at SF- and I hope he starts next week and continues to be our starter at SF for the next 12 years...

Do you think Dala is well suited to play SG?

Dala has improved his jumper, and has a good handle, but he may be bulked up to the point that he can't stay in front of some SG's (I'm asking your opinion, I honestly don't know.)

It will be good that with Young and Dala they can easily switch off on D (and even cover PF's on some switches if needed) but I do worry they are both to big to switch onto PG's and small SG's.

Its certainly worth a try. What do you all think? In a perfect world do you want Dala at the starting SG or SF?


That's actually one worry I've had with Iguodala/Young. I think Iggy is better suited at the 3. As you mentioned, his strength allows him to better defend small forwards and bigger guards, but it inhibits him from keeping up with guys like Wade. I know, not always a problem, but their are a few guys like that out there.

Also, on the offensive end, unless he can tighten up his handle and his jump shot, while improving his range, I'd prefer him at the 3.

With that said, I do really like the idea of Thad and Iggy playing the wings on defense. They're long and active with quick hands. I also fully expect to see Thaddeus put on some more weight, which should help him when he plays the 4 spot. I really enjoyed watching Thad on the defensive end last night, he really seemed to be everywhere at once.

I think these guys will be a good foundation for a strong perimeter defense, but the issue of smaller and quicker guards may come into play from time to time.
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Post#123 » by IggyTheBEaST » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:42 pm

Trading him now would be foolish. A sign and trade may be a good option. (Iggy for Gasol comes to mind.)
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Post#124 » by 9th Wonder » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:52 pm

IggyTheBEaST wrote:Trading him now would be foolish. A sign and trade may be a good option. (Iggy for Gasol comes to mind.)


I really don't understand the logic behind Memphis trading Gasol. He's still young (I'm not gonna go look it up, but I would guess 27) and they got some nice pieces around him in Gay, Miller, Conley, etc. I'm sure they could also get themselves some cap space if they tried.
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Post#125 » by 9th Wonder » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:58 pm

Ok, so I did a little research on Memphis. Gasol is 27.

Their salary situation isn't out of control, but man is that Brian Cardinal contract ever bad. It seems like he signed that thing years ago. What is it, a 10 year deal?

I guess they'd really need to get under the cap before Gay needs to be re-signed, or they'll have no chance of doing it. I think if they can do that, and start winning a little more, it would be enough to keep Gasol happy. I think this team could be quite good, if managed properly over the next few years.
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Post#126 » by tk76 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:34 pm

They think Gasol is a poor fit in an uptempo, Sun's style offense.
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Post#127 » by 9th Wonder » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:59 am

tk76 wrote:They think Gasol is a poor fit in an uptempo, Sun's style offense.


Eh, I really don't see why everyone is all over the Suns style of play. The furthest they've made it is the conference finals, and even that was a bit of a fluke, since the two best teams that season met in the conference semis. Not only that, but they are absolutely loaded with talent. If you're even thinking of playing like the Suns, you're gonna need a lot of atheltic, unselfish weapons that can shoot. And there are only so many of those in the league.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see why you would give up on a skilled 27 year old post player because you're trying to force a system upon a franchise.
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Post#128 » by orl1724 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:01 am

Id be whilling to give up Hedo and a young guy like....Evans or expirings like Arroyo Dooling Garrity then you guys can sign Arenas or some other big FA.
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Post#129 » by PhilasFinest » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:25 am

orl1724 wrote:Id be whilling to give up Hedo and a young guy like....Evans or expirings like Arroyo Dooling Garrity then you guys can sign Arenas or some other big FA.


If YOU were the Gm of Orlando and I was the GM of Philly id trade you Evans for any mixture of Expirings...

BUT we arent so we can only hope the 2 teams could come to a deal like this.it makes sense for both teams.
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Post#130 » by IndoorOutdoor » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:30 am

What could the Heat do to get Iggy
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Post#131 » by Mik317 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:20 am

your first pick(08) and maybe Cook?


so yeah.........or Wade if you want.
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Post#132 » by IndoorOutdoor » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:23 am

at the trade deadline--- Miami---Ricky, Jwill, Pick for Andre Miller, Igoudala, Willy Green

Gives the Sixers a great deal of cap room to make moves this summer + another great lottery pick and really puts Miami back on the map with Andre Miller at PG, and Iggy at SF.. Iggy could be a legit running mate next to Wade for the future
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Post#133 » by Mik317 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:25 am

if it's your first pick then hellz yeah........except I hate Ricky, so no.
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Post#134 » by IndoorOutdoor » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:31 am

Knux-Future wrote:if it's your first pick then hellz yeah........except I hate Ricky, so no.


First round draft pick.. Ricky's Expring so is Jwill.. Gives you guys an awesome amount of cap room and an awesome lottery pick in addition to yours.. So a lot of money and a top pick sounds like a good rebuilding plan to me.
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Post#135 » by tk76 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:37 am

So we give up our two best players (one age not even 24) for a first and cap space.

Yeah, that works for us on what planet?

We might unload a 32 y/o pg 1 year before his contract expires to get the cap space earlier, but I think your 2009 pick (with Miller, Iguodala and Wade on the team) might be worth crap.

So basically you think we should give you Iguodala for crap.

Thanks for your input, but I think maybe we will just sign him or sign and trade him for another of the big name RFA's.

Maybe you should go to ATL, Char or Chi boards and ask for Okafor, Smith or Deng for your 2009 first and a bucket of semi expiring refuse.
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Post#136 » by IndoorOutdoor » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:40 am

2008 Pick.. Lottery.. Right now it is the second pick in the draft
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Post#137 » by tk76 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:50 am

I don't think you can trade it away since it was already traded to Minny- Your pick is lottery protected- but I think you can only trade it after the season and only if you acquire a new 2009 #1 (since Minny will then get your #1 and you are not allowed to give up consecutive #1 picks.)

Sorry, but the pick is not yours to trade- only Minny could trade the right to that pick to us.
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Post#138 » by UptownPhilly » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:55 am

IndoorOutdoor wrote:2008 Pick.. Lottery.. Right now it is the second pick in the draft


It won't be once you get Iguodala and Miller :crazy:

Towards the end of the season it'll probably become 10th-12th.

You're basically cheating us out of our best two players.
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Post#139 » by IndoorOutdoor » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:01 am

Roletagg wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



It won't be once you get Iguodala and Miller :crazy:

Towards the end of the season it'll probably become 10th-12th.

You're basically cheating us out of our best two players.


We're pretty far out and making that deal at the deadline wouldn't be enough to propel us to the playoffs so why wouldn't we continue to tank/rest Wade/Shaq.. None the less you guys are getting tons of cap room for this off season + a lottery pick. We could even take on more salary by adding Reggie Evans
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Post#140 » by 76erinSJ » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:01 am

Horrible deal. We could end up with nothing in FA cause no one would want to come here without Iggy and Miller here. people need to stop putting so much faith into this cap space.

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