Trade Iguodala

[IndoorOutdoor]

Horrible deal. We could end up with nothing in FA.

and a top lottery pick

[76erinSJ]

Would not be a top pick because Iggy and Miller would bring that team up to the 8 to 12 range in the draft. Miller >>> then JWill and Iggy >>>>>>>>>>the Davis.

[UptownPhilly]

We're not interested in that trade. If we ever do decide to trade Iguodala he could bring back a lot more than that.

[dbodner]

Please don't turn this thread into discussing made up trade proposals.

[dond]

So ... you think they can get someone better than Andre Miller ?

Andre Miller has two very big deficiencies. His lack of range really (IMO) makes it harder for Iguodala to drive. And maybe one that could play defense would help.

That may be ... I don't necessarily agree with your analysis ... but back to my original question .... where is the point guard that is better than Andre Miller ? (that the Sixers can get)

[9th Wonder]

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That may be ... I don't necessarily agree with your analysis ... but back to my original question .... where is the point guard that is better than Andre Miller ? (that the Sixers can get)

It may very well be that we have to suffer over the short term to get the point guard we want a few years down the road. I'm certainly not denying Miller's talent, but his age is too big a question mark to me. If he were 27, I'd be all for keeping him, but he's 32 in two months. I think Ed's taking a risk here, let's hope it pays off.

[THFM]

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It may very well be that we have to suffer over the short term to get the point guard we want a few years down the road. I'm certainly not denying Miller's talent, but his age is too big a question mark to me. If he were 27, I'd be all for keeping him, but he's 32 in two months. I think Ed's taking a risk here, let's hope it pays off.

How is keeping Miller a risk? His contract expires next year it's not a long term marriage.

[9th Wonder]

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How is keeping Miller a risk? His contract expires next year it's not a long term marriage.

That's not my point. I have a problem with resigning him past next year. What I think Ed is doing is keeping him until next year and then evaluating whether or not he should be kept. My problem with this strategy is that if his skills decline he will be of little use to us beyond next year and his trade value will have diminished a great deal from what it is today.

Also, he may play great next year, but then sign a 3 year deal for $20M and start to fall off in the first year of his new deal. All I'm saying is that Ed needs to be extra cautious with Andre, as he will be 33 when he is set to resign.

[tk76]

I see Miller as a 33 year old MLE player after his copntract expires at the end of next season. It's hard to say whether he would sign here or elsewhere, it depends if ewe have a shot at being a winner by then- which seems less likely right now.

[dond]

I know I should wait until the Sixers have a better team to judge Igoudala, but .... I am not really very impressed with him. He makes a lot of mistakes and he seems to think he is a lot better than he really is.

Igoudala is not a bad player. He just got some bad advice ... turning down 57 million ... and that is going to haunt him for some time now. I don't see how he can ever end up signing with the Sixers because he will be embarassed about that when he sees what they are going to offer him. He will have to come up with some reason that he no longer wishes to play for the Sixers and then either leave as a free agent or get traded. I think he is gone.

If I am Stefanski and I get a good offer for him I think I take it before he gets any more exposed for what he really is.

[darius08]

If there's a team willing to give us a young power forward with potential for Iguodala we should consider it seriously.

[dbodner]

Iguodala's a very good #3 player, with the potential to be a #2 player. Unless trading him for a #1 player (or a player with potential to be a #1 player), it doesn't make sense to move him. This isn't the same as Andre Miller, who's going to be 32 and may not be here when the Sixers have rebuilt. He's 23. Sure, if you have a chance to get the #1 type player, then anyone's movable. But baring that offer, there's no reason to move Iguodala. When he gets a post player with some offense, some shooters, and a legit #1 option, he'll go back to being what he is. a 16-18 ppg scorer, with good defense, rebounding, and passing ability, who's a good all-around player, and we can stop focusing on what he's not (a player who can carry a team every single night offensively).

There's no reason to move him just to move him. There's no reason to take another step back just for the sake of it. Getting a player of Iguodala's caliber isn't easily replaceable, and moving him simply because he's not what you're currently asking him to be would be a huge mistake.

[darius08]

I think these two sentences nicely summarize the situation:

Unless trading him for a #1 player (or a player with potential to be a #1 player), it doesn't make sense to move him. .....

Getting a player of Iguodala's caliber isn't easily replaceable, and moving him simply because he's not what you're currently asking him to be would be a huge mistake.

No one's going to trade us a clear #1 for a clear #3 or #2 (depending on how you count). But I do think someone might trade us a player with the potential to be a #1. And that' ssomething (depending on how you value the potential) you have to look at. At the rate we're at, we've got to take the gambles needed to get a #1.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

And, if that player ISN'T what we thought(and hoped) he could be? Let's put all of our eggs in the basket of that Thaddeus Young kid. I like him

[darius08]

And, if that player ISN'T what we thought(and hoped) he could be?

There's a good chance he won't be. That's why it's a risk . But at this point we have to take risks. There's no other way to get a #1 player but to take a risk of some form. And you don't win in this league without one.

And besides we're in an ideal position to take risks. If Iguodala's traded for a potential #1 who turns out to be a washout, we go from a 33 win team to being a 25 win team. Hardly a big loss.

[freshie2]

Did the franchise give up on a 24 year old player who had this stat line?
FG=42% / 3FG%=34% / FT%=71% / REB=3.7 / A=4.6 / S = 2 / TO=3.2

Now we are giving up on a not yet 24 year old payer who currently has these averages??
FG=44% / 3FG%=32% / FT%=77% / REB=5.7 / A=4.5 / S = 2.1 / TO=3.1

[SendEm]

Did the franchise give up on a 24 year old player who had this stat line?
FG=42% / 3FG%=34% / FT%=71% / REB=3.7 / A=4.6 / S = 2 / TO=3.2

Now we are giving up on a not yet 24 year old payer who currently has these averages??
FG=44% / 3FG%=32% / FT%=77% / REB=5.7 / A=4.5 / S = 2.1 / TO=3.1

Where's the points, minutes, and field goal attempts?

[freshie2]

24+ FGA/Game leading to 28.9 PPG...40 mpg

15+ FGA/Game leading to 18.9 PPG...39 mpg

[SendEm]

24+ FGA/Game leading to 28.9 PPG...40 mpg

15+ FGA/Game leading to 18.9 PPG...39 mpg

Wow it's quite apparent why our team didn't "give up" on that player at 24 years of age. QUITE evident...

[freshie2]

So if Iguodala becomes a gunner, he becomes more valuable?