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Phoenix Suns @ Utah Jazz [Game 36]

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Post#221 » by skatesb16 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:05 am

Honestly, Diaw needs to be traded tomorrow for whoever we can get. He just sucks and is a waste of a rotation spot. At the very least, he needs to be out of the starting lineup. Go with Nash, Bell, Marion, Stoudemire, and Skinner.
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Post#222 » by nashill » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:06 am

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Marks: ~10 minutes to have 3 points, 5 rebounds, 1 assist

OR

Diaw: ~21 minutes to have 5 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists.


im not sure if we have to compare their stats since Marks playing garbage time BUT maybe its worth trying to give him some playing time at the expense of Diaw. This will also challenge Diaw to try and get his PT.
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Post#223 » by impulsenine » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:07 am

Saddest part? The 4th-quarter scrubs scored more than twice as many points (albeit against lesser scrubs, though Boozer and Brewer stayed in the whole time).
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Post#224 » by nashill » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:08 am

skatesb16 wrote:Honestly, Diaw needs to be traded tomorrow for whoever we can get. He just sucks and is a waste of a rotation spot. At the very least, he needs to be out of the starting lineup. Go with Nash, Bell, Marion, Stoudemire, and Skinner.


hmm...nice idea but no one will trade for him..so the choice is to play Marks. I doubt if this will happen though knowing dantoni...
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Post#225 » by impulsenine » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:09 am

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im not sure if we have to compare their stats since Marks playing garbage time BUT maybe its worth trying to give him some playing time at the expense of Diaw. This will also challenge Diaw to try and get his PT.


Boozer was still in; it's not a totally fair cop, but still - it shouldn't even be possible for me to make a case.
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Post#226 » by nashill » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:11 am

impulsenine wrote:Saddest part? The 4th-quarter scrubs scored more than twice as many points (albeit against lesser scrubs, though Boozer and Brewer stayed in the whole time).


We all expected this loss. The saddest thing is DIAW didnt help...
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Post#227 » by skatesb16 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:15 am

first loss when Amare has 20/10 after 18 straight wins
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Post#228 » by Suns_fan_2007 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:16 am

It felt kind of like watching a Twilight Zone NBA game, very different from the Suns we're used to, but good to see what the reserves are like nevertheless.

I guess we won't take Nash / Hill / Matrix for granted as much any more.
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Post#229 » by ma_falaa_50 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:42 am

Well I dont know what Diaw does with Dantoni behind close doors but he doesnt deserve more Pt than banks or Skinner. If the suns lose again this year. I think he is good as gone. Im glad he is willing to put his trust on Diaw who is garbage. the reason he isnt giving up on Diaw is because He is the guy that signed him long term. He doesnt want to look like a fool which I think that boat has sailed. Pride is come before the fall. I would love to see him get fired.


As for the Jazz. They really didnt prove anything. Injuries are part of the game but they should have dominated since the get go. Phx didnt have 3 regular starters and played into overtime the night before.

I thought the more I watch Dj the more I see him having a better understanding as to making PG plays. Dj may not be the best right now but I dont think he would do a behind the back pass to no one like Lb does. Dantoni lack of foresight and concept of the big picture is the main reason why Lb is still getting minutes as a PG.
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Post#230 » by nashill » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:57 am

ma_falaa_50 wrote:I thought the more I watch Dj the more I see him having a better understanding as to making PG plays. Dj may not be the best right now but I dont think he would do a behind the back pass to no one like Lb does.



one game doesnt prove anything but its really worth trying...but still i doubt it dantoni will do this..

ma_falaa_50 wrote:Dantoni lack of foresight and concept of the big picture is the main reason why Lb is still getting minutes as a PG.


I really dont understand why SDU and mkot defend antoni so much.. his shortcomings will really cost this team the championship...
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Post#231 » by -SDU- » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:06 am

ma_falaa_50 wrote:Well I dont know what Diaw does with Dantoni behind close doors but he doesnt deserve more Pt than banks or Skinner. If the suns lose again this year. I think he is good as gone. Im glad he is willing to put his trust on Diaw who is garbage. the reason he isnt giving up on Diaw is because He is the guy that signed him long term. He doesnt want to look like a fool which I think that boat has sailed. Pride is come before the fall. I would love to see him get fired.
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what a crock of ****

if that was the case then he would play banks also :crazy:

you guys are all fools, bloody hell, a win is "whatever" a loss is "sack the entire city"

just enjoy the **** ride and quit bitching

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Post#232 » by rsavaj » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:43 am

rsavaj wrote:http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0110sunsupdate.html

Nash/Hill out for sure, Marion is a game-time decision. We called up Strawberry for the D-League, giving us 10 players if Marion plays.

lol can you imagine if he doesn't play? What kind of lineup would we roll out?

Barbosa
Bell
Diaw
Amare
Skinner

Banks
Strawberry
Tucker
Marks

Hahahahaha....oh man, we're going to get destroyed.


Can't say I'm too upset about this one....
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Post#233 » by BringinDaRuckus » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:28 am

It's tought for me to day this, but I am honestly glad I missed watching a Suns game this evening. I was already expecting a Loss with three key players out. But by reading and closely looking at the box score and play-by-play, it looked like a painful loss.

DJ was the only player with + on box score? Granted I am sure it was against scrubs, but it looked like he played with effort. What happened to Tucker? Didn't he play this week and not at all tonight? I guess we would have had to place another player on injure reserve, and they have to miss a certain number of games before coming back...

Anyways, glad to see Mike D use his bench and not run Amare, Bell, and LB for 48 mins. We all know he is capable of doing such a thing.

And who is B. Diaw? Did we just pick this guy up from the street? 34 mins with 2 rebs/2assts/5pts? 3-D indeed.... Congrats Diaw. A chance to shine and show some skills and you blow AND suck. Dind't think a person can do those two things at once, but you managed to do it.
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Post#234 » by GoDogGo » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:11 am

BringinDaRuckus wrote:It's tought for me to day this, but I am honestly glad I missed watching a Suns game this evening. I was already expecting a Loss with three key players out. But by reading and closely looking at the box score and play-by-play, it looked like a painful loss.

DJ was the only player with + on box score? Granted I am sure it was against scrubs, but it looked like he played with effort. What happened to Tucker? Didn't he play this week and not at all tonight? I guess we would have had to place another player on injure reserve, and they have to miss a certain number of games before coming back...

Anyways, glad to see Mike D use his bench and not run Amare, Bell, and LB for 48 mins. We all know he is capable of doing such a thing.

And who is B. Diaw? Did we just pick this guy up from the street? 34 mins with 2 rebs/2assts/5pts? 3-D indeed.... Congrats Diaw. A chance to shine and show some skills and you blow AND suck. Dind't think a person can do those two things at once, but you managed to do it.


Nice Buckwheat impression on that first sentence. :rofl:
Tucker didn't travel with the team, and Diaw was having back spasms and probably shouldn't have played.
Marks played well for the mins he had.
For the starters, only Barbs and Amare had good games.
Piat's time on the floor just shows that some people get paid to do nothing. Man I want that job!
The good news is that everyone that suited up played 12 mins or more. Can't complain about that.
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Post#235 » by impulsenine » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:39 pm

I'm worried that we played Diaw if he really was injured.

I mean -- Nash, Marion, and Hill are all out, so why bother?
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Post#236 » by ma_falaa_50 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:50 pm

doesnt matter really diaw has to tough it out. Amare played with stiffness on his right knee for the first month of the season and he still did 20 and 8. Diaw rebounding or should I say lack their off is caused by his lack of effort. I know Boozer was held to 1 rebound but I dont think Diaw was any part of that.

whatver the reason Diaw's play is inexcusable. Im glad I saw Kenny Smith finally speak up vs Dantoni's coaching style because this is he knows what he is talking about. He won a championship vs the spurs and he wa coached by Rudy T. He has been around great players and great coaches which provides a bigger insight than any fan can bring.
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Post#237 » by BringinDaRuckus » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:01 pm

GoDogGo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Nice Buckwheat impression on that first sentence. :rofl:
Tucker didn't travel with the team, and Diaw was having back spasms and probably shouldn't have played.
Marks played well for the mins he had.
For the starters, only Barbs and Amare had good games.
Piat's time on the floor just shows that some people get paid to do nothing. Man I want that job!
The good news is that everyone that suited up played 12 mins or more. Can't complain about that.


LOL thank you. That's what happens when I get home from being out late. D'oh!
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Post#238 » by GoDogGo » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:44 pm

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LOL thank you. That's what happens when I get home from being out late. D'oh!

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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Post#239 » by whambamslam » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:17 pm

Ok I don't rant very often, but this has just got on my nerves. What is with the National media? I can't understand it on multiple national media shows and during the TNT broadcast last night you'd think they were in denial that 3 of our 5 starters were out last night. They talked about the game as if we we're at full strength. I mean we were played Pike 18 minutes and they act like we were suppose to win.
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Post#240 » by PHXfan85 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:46 pm

ma_falaa_50 wrote:doesnt matter really diaw has to tough it out. Amare played with stiffness on his right knee for the first month of the season and he still did 20 and 8. Diaw rebounding or should I say lack their off is caused by his lack of effort. I know Boozer was held to 1 rebound but I dont think Diaw was any part of that.

whatver the reason Diaw's play is inexcusable. Im glad I saw Kenny Smith finally speak up vs Dantoni's coaching style because this is he knows what he is talking about. He won a championship vs the spurs and he wa coached by Rudy T. He has been around great players and great coaches which provides a bigger insight than any fan can bring.


What'd he say? I missed it.
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