Denver nuggets vs Los angeles lakers 7 game series

[That Nicka]

Martin and Nene are good man on man defenders... They arent great rebounders or shot blockers... Camby is an elite rebounder and an elite shot blocker...

Bynum is a good defender, good shot blocker, good rebounder... Odom is a good rebounder, below average post defender... Kwame is a good man on man defender, decent shot blocker, below average rebounder... Turiaf is below average man defender, good shot blocker, below average rebounder...

That said I dont have a problem stating that: Denver's interior defense is better than the Lakers.. Like many others have said in this thread (Denver fans included), the Lakers offense and coaching is so much better than Denvers that it more than makes up for the difference

Diawara and Carter are decent defenders and could be lethal when coupled with Nene, Martin, and Camby however this lineup would be so bad offensively that they would never see the court together... The Lakers are good because they have several lineups they can go to that provide great combinations of offense AND defense...

[Bgil]

And now Im convinced you havent even seen the Spurs play. You think you can stop Duncan by packing the lane? ****, you are out of it.

Yes, you pack the lane and dare Tony Parker too shoot. Then you hope the other outside shooters go cold. Thats exactly why they went out and got Van Excel, Finley, and Barry.

With the combo of Manu, TP, and Duncan... every team packs the lane on them or gets killed by penetration. That's been the Spurs MO for years now.

[yunggunz]

And now Im convinced you havent even seen the Spurs play. You think you can stop Duncan by packing the lane? ****, you are out of it.

With the combo of Manu, TP, and Duncan... every team packs the lane on them or gets killed by penetration. That's been the Spurs MO for years now.

Oh wow. So you dare one of the best 3 point shooting teams in the league to beat you by shooting. Now I have heard it all.

[black06eclipse]

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Our defense down low is a hell of a lot better than their perimeter D. Look at our rebounding. Look at Bynum anchoring the paint. Kwame usually plays good positional D. Even Turiaf is good for some solid D and shotblocking at the 4 spot.

you guys are definitely top 15 at defense downlow but don't be a homer. Your perimeter defense is much better than how your big men defend.

Camby is the DPOY, and Nene and Kmart are huge bodies that defend very well. most of the time i think its these 2 defending the best bigman downlow and not Camby.

Bynum and Kwame have the ability to be up to par with them (give Bynum 5 years and he'll probably pass them) but they aren't.

Camby, Nene, and Kmart are probably one of the best defensive trios in the league.

[Bgil]

Diawara and Carter are decent defenders and could be lethal when coupled with Nene, Martin, and Camby however this lineup would be so bad offensively that they would never see the court together... The Lakers are good because they have several lineups they can go to that provide great combinations of offense AND defense...

Which is what I said. We have guys in the rotation (unlike Diawara and Nene) that play good D and we can actually put a good defensive lineup on the floor whereas the Nuggets really can't.

Kenyon is an overrated defender. Carter, playing defensively out of position is an overrated defender. Nene barely plays and when he does he's a foul machine.

[yunggunz]

Camby, Nene, and Kmart are probably one of the best defensive trios in the league.

I would go as far as to say those 3 are better than LA's best post defender.

[candy for lunch]

George Karl does stupid **** like isolate Martin and Canby on Brandon Roy, so I think the Lakers would definitely have an advantage

[black06eclipse]

like i said its simple...

perimeter D = Lakers
inside D = Nuggets

[Bgil]

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Camby, Nene, and Kmart are probably one of the best defensive trios in the league.

you know they have a negative rebounding diff, right?
Last season, Nene gave up an average PER of 19.8 at the 4 spot. 14 at PF is good but nowhere near "superb".
Kenyon's opp per was 22 last season. This season it's still at 17.4. That's what Odom gives up at the 4. Considering he's playing next to Camby that's pretty sad.

Statistically they aren't good defenders. so far this year they haven't stopped anyone from walking all over them either.

How in the world are you guys coming up with this "superb defender" idea?

[yunggunz]

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How in the world are you guys coming up with this "superb defender" idea?

Well you see, some people on this board watch basketball and actually have a clue.

[Bgil]

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I would go as far as to say those 3 are better than LA's best post defender.

weaksauce, at best. Nene can't even keep his gimpy ass on the floor long enough to be considered a THAT defender. 3 fouls in 20 minutes is also proof you're wrong. you could make the case for those guys a few years back but they not now. If they didn't suck then Denver's D wouldn't be so average. Martin is by all means an average post defender.

[semi-sentient]

Lakers in -1.

[Bgil]

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Well you see, some people on this board watch basketball and actually have a clue.

The same games where the mythical Carter/Diawara/KMart/Nene/Camby lineup is blowing the Lakers out of the water? Or the games where "there's no evidence Ariza is a good defender"? You remember he shut down AI, right? What about those games in which you didn't pack the lane against Duncan and the Spurs penetration but still managed to let Finley bomb away freely from the outside? those games?

[Charlie78]

Dont you know the lakers have a young Bill Russell and the GOAT, everyone should quit now because they have played the toughest schedule in the history of all sports men and women and there is no team this side of andromeda with a chance against the Lakers.

[farzi]

Dont you know the lakers have a young Bill Russell and the GOAT, everyone should quit now because they have played the toughest schedule in the history of all sports men and women and there is no team this side of andromeda with a chance against the Lakers.

[That Nicka]

Dont you know the lakers have a young Bill Russell and the GOAT, everyone should quit now because they have played the toughest schedule in the history of all sports men and women and there is no team this side of andromeda with a chance against the Lakers.

[Nuggets_Talk]

meh. regular season matchups (would you pick new orleans over the lakers right now because they beat LA at home?).

Yes, the Hornets are the only team in the West besides the Spurs that the Lakers have no chance of beating in the playoffs. Just bad matchups all around. LO can shut down tweeners and players who like to drive but shooters have their way with him.... and this team has Peja. We can't stop Chris Paul in any way shape or form and David West owns our PF's.

OTOH we will beat the Nuggets with ease. They have zero defensive stoppers on the perimeter to do anything to Kobe, LO, RadMan, or even Fisher and Farmar. Their best defensive guy on the perimeter is who? Anthony Carter?
They don't have anyone that can expose LO on the block or really exploit any of our other weaknesses.
Their bench sucks and every time they come in the game they're going to get dominated by our bench.

They can't outrun us because we can run now too. They can't slow it down and beat us because they have no low post scoring. They can't dominate the boards and they play no defense.

Denver stands no chance against the Lakers. Every team in the West hopes they get Denver in the first round.

wow.

glad that was sarcastic because if you were serious it would have sounded so stupid.

[Nuggets_Talk]

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only on RealGM will you see 2 fantastic posts like these.. back to back

dude. it gets funnier - hope you kept reading...

[yunggunz]

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wow.

glad that was sarcastic because if you were serious it would have sounded so stupid.

Do yourself a favor and ignore this guy. I dont think he has ever seen an NBA game.

[Nuggets_Talk]

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Do yourself a favor and ignore this guy. I dont think he has ever seen an NBA game.

he wasnt actually serious, was he? no one is that dumb...i just assumed it was a joke. had to be...

anyways, if we got the lakers, id be happy - they aren the spurs.

ive also learned from reading this thread that laker fans arent the smartest among nba fans. not trying to hate, just callin em like i see it - hard to disagree if you read this thread. maybe in other threads laker fans are better. im not sure.