Magic @ Nuggets

magicman123 · Post #421 » by **magicman123** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:30 am

nelson, arroyo, hedo, stan :banghead:

TooNice00 · Post #422 » by **TooNice00** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:31 am

i want hedo gone. he is our biggest trading piece. he chucks up the most shots on our team. he makes rashard play out of position. and he always has to have a game every so often where he just sucks. and sucks bad.

goflyakite · Post #423 » by **goflyakite** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:32 am

WE didn't play well regardless of those cowardly pieces of crap who officiated tonight and the Houston cheat.

richnba · Post #424 » by **richnba** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:32 am

As they say trade high, Hedo is still very inconsitent, we can get a decent big for him.

theTHIEF · Post #425 » by **theTHIEF** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:32 am

we DO need some changes...not a huge roster overhaul...but a trade is probably necessary, just one to do SOMETHING...a shot in the arm...and Stan is going to have to break it down to these guys...Dwight gets so frustrated, he really needs to control himself...he's going Rasheed Wallace out there now...

Post #426 » by **FFBlitzace** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:32 am

Can't blame Jameer for this. At least not solely him. 8 assists 1 turnover. He did a decent job.

It was the continued break downs on defense that lost it. And Jameer's part of that, no doubt.

And we still had a shot at this game, but the refs just absolutely took control in the final minutes. The fact that 2 of them officiated that Houston game obviously leads to some raised eyebrows.

Optimus_Steel · Post #427 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:32 am

TooNice00 wrote:i want hedo gone. he is our biggest trading piece. he chucks up the most shots on our team. he makes rashard play out of position. and he always has to have a game every so often where he just sucks. and sucks bad.

Thats ridiculous. Hedo has been fantastic. He had a bad game today it happens.

magicman123 · Post #428 » by **magicman123** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:32 am

TooNice00 wrote:i want hedo gone. he is our biggest trading piece. he chucks up the most shots on our team. he makes rashard play out of position. and he always has to have a game every so often where he just sucks. and sucks bad.

if we can get a real good pf, sg, or pg..

zuppafly · Post #429 » by **zuppafly** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:33 am

TooNice00 wrote:i want hedo gone. he is our biggest trading piece. he chucks up the most shots on our team. he makes rashard play out of position. and he always has to have a game every so often where he just sucks. and sucks bad.

Yeah, he plays all-star level for 20 games, has 1 bad game... trade him... he kills this team. :crazy:

TooNice00 · Post #430 » by **TooNice00** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:33 am

and get arroyo and dooling off our team along with hedo. package them all together.

MagicFan3 · Post #431 » by **MagicFan3** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:34 am

marcin061786 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

WTF are you talkin about?? Your crazy if you really think this current roster is actually going anywhere. I doubt anyone else would even agree with you. Your the idiot my friend

Wrong, I agree with him.

npiper17 · Post #432 » by **npiper17** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:34 am

marcin061786 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

WTF are you talkin about?? Your crazy if you really think this current roster is actually going anywhere. I doubt anyone else would even agree with you. Your the idiot my friend

Well let's see shall we..

Last year we were 42-40. Currently we stand at 23-15. Therefore we have already "gone somewhere" with this roster...

You clearly expect is to win 82 games and when we lose you demand a trade. You live in fantasy land. Will we win a championship with the roster as it is....no...Can we put a loss to one of the best team's in the West on the road in perspective please?

Optimus_Steel · Post #433 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:34 am

PG play was atrocious on both ends.

magicman123 · Post #434 » by **magicman123** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:35 am

arroyo and nelsons play in the 4th basically cost us the game..how many pts did carter have on nelson in the 4th..no leader and no ball movement tonight in the 4th..if someone got the ball, all dribble and they took it themselves...

Cammo101 · Post #435 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:37 am

We need to make a deal for Andre Miller.

taruky1 · Post #436 » by **taruky1** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:37 am

TooNice00 wrote:i want hedo gone. he is our biggest trading piece. he chucks up the most shots on our team. he makes rashard play out of position. and he always has to have a game every so often where he just sucks. and sucks bad.

Will you STFU for once? Get off your fricking Hedo hating obsession. So every bad game he has for the rest of the season you're going to make some point? Then if he has a good game "Oh, we rely on him too much". The guy had a bad shooting game, it happens. He's been struggling with the three for a few games now, Rashard went through the same thing. When it comes again (which it always does) things will be fine. Tonight he missed wide open shots for the most part, missed an easy layup...I wouldn't say he was chucking.

Optimus_Steel · Post #437 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:37 am

magicman123 wrote:arroyo and nelsons play in the 4th basically cost us the game..how many pts did carter have on nelson in the 4th..no leader and no ball movement tonight in the 4th..if someone got the ball, all dribble and they took it themselves...

Pretty much. On offense and defense PG play was just incredibly bad. And with Hedo having an unusual bad game we didnt have much of a chance.

npiper17 · Post #438 » by **npiper17** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:38 am

We talk a lot about our pg's play but at the end of the day, offensively you have to say that we score enough points pretty much every game to have a chance to win (103 tonight)..

Frankly I think Jameer and Carlos are the worst DEFENSIVE point guard duo in the league. Jameer's height and poor decision making costs him whereas Carlos thinks every pg in the league can't shoot and stands a mile off them directing everyone else where to go..

Our problem is that we don't have a defensive point guard consistent enough to start and play big minutes. Dooling is the cloest to this but Adonal's ball handling is better than Keyon's hence we plays the off-guard more..

Hairy Midget · Post #439 » by **Hairy Midget** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:38 am

We made some mistakes, and that's usually alright, but the problem was that they were mistakes that we do over and over and anyone could see them coming.

In the 4th quarter, I think with about 5 minutes left, Arroyo was running the point and he looks over and sees Nelson walking baseline to check in at the next dead ball.

Immediately in my head I thought "Please Arroyo don't chuck up a bad shot before you go back to the bench."

He immediately takes one bad jumper, the Magic get the ball back later and he takes another even worse jumper which allows his man to run back and get an uncontested layup.

Otherwise though I don't think that Magic played that bad, we just got jobbed by the refs in the final 3 minutes and that changed the tide of the game.

Hedo's not gonna shoot that bad again probably all year, and Anthony Carter is not gonna shoot that good again prolly ever.

magictreat · Post #440 » by **magictreat** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:38 am

Cammo101 wrote:We need to make a deal for Andre Miller.

That wont happen, Jameer is Otis boy, and the best PG in this team, Period.Period, ask Otis about it, lmao!!!!