MN LAC GS PHX

shagadelic45 · Post #1 » by **shagadelic45** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:32 pm

Minnesota Timberwolves

Incoming Players

#1 (MN via LAC)

#1 (ATL via PHX)

Thomas TE (PHX)
Jones TE (PHX)
Richardson TE (GS)

Outgoing Players: Mark Madsen, Sebastian Telfair, Rashad McCants, Craig Smith

Los Angeles Clippers

Incoming Players

Mark Madsen
Salary: $2,420,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 0.4 REB: 2.5 AST: 0.3 PER: -0.50

Sebastian Telfair
Salary: $2,562,426 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.6 REB: 2.3 AST: 5.7 PER: 10.27

Rashad McCants
Salary: $1,769,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 15.1 REB: 2.8 AST: 2.1 PER: 15.12

Craig Smith
Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.8 REB: 4.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 16.63

Outgoing Players: Aaron Williams, Dan Dickau, Corey Maggette, Sam Cassell, 2008 #1 (MN)

PG:Livingston-Knight-Telfair
SG:Mobley-McCants
SF:Thomas-Ross-Thorton
PF:Brand-Smith-Powell
C:Kaman-Madsen-Davis

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players

Dan Dickau
Salary: $770,610 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.7 REB: 1.5 AST: 2.8 PER: 11.70
Obtained with a trade exception

Aaron Williams
Salary: $1,890,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.4 REB: 1.6 AST: 0.1 PER: 12.12
Obtained with a trade exception

Corey Maggette
Salary: $7,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.9 REB: 6.0 AST: 2.7 PER: 17.94
Obtained with a trade exception

Outgoing Players: Thomas TE, Jones TE, 2008 #1 (ATL)

PG:Nash-Dickau-Banks
SG:Bell-Barbosa
SF:Hill-Maggette
PF:Marion-Diaw
C:Stoudamire-Skinner-Williams

Golden State Warriors

Incoming Players

Sam Cassell
Salary: $6,150,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.5 REB: 2.6 AST: 4.2 PER: 15.43
Obtained with a trade exception

Outgoing Players: Richardson TE

PG:Davis-Cassell-Hudson
SG:Ellis-Azubuike-Belinelli
SF:Jackson-Pietrus-Barnes
PF:Harrington-Croshere-Wright
C:Biedrins-OBryant-Perovic

shrink · Post #2 » by **shrink** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:34 pm

Wow -- for MIN? No. Lottery picks Corey Brewer and McCants for .. I can't remember and I'm unwilling to scroll up.

Post #3 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:41 pm

So wait....how does PHX manage to land Maggette and Dickau without giving anything up? At the very least, they should have to give up the ATL pick.

And that's kinda massive suckitude for Minny.

shagadelic45 · Post #4 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:15 am

ooops. left it out.......fixed. PHX is sending Kurt Thomas TE and ATL pick to MN. GS sends the Jason Richardson TE and LA returns MN's #1.

kandiking · Post #5 » by **kandiking** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:26 am

brewer should be taken out of this for minnesota. perhaps you should look at more than his statline before throwing him in.

old rem · Post #6 » by **old rem** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:29 am

shagadelic45 wrote:ooops. left it out.......fixed. PHX is sending Kurt Thomas TE and ATL pick to MN. GS sends the Jason Richardson TE and LA returns MN's #1.

GSW will NOT trade Azubuike for this...will not toss in the others...will not use the TPE to increase payroll....(at least not in this context.) Azubuike will be a regular here for a long time....he's barely had a full year in the NBA -yet has quite a few 20+ games and scored 30 once this season. Barnes + Pietrus were in the rotation even when the rotation shrunk to 7-8 players. With Mbenga gone-POB is the backup C.

old rem · Post #7 » by **old rem** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:36 am

And....what's the T Wolves impulse to turn ROOKIE CONTRACTS into expirings or vacancies? They are not unloading Jaric or anything they might WANT to get rid of....are "cleaning house" of all their picks of recent years and the young guys from the KG deal. All so the Clips can get about 5 good players for Maggette/Ross

crzy · Post #8 » by **crzy** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:33 am

Golden State says no. What do they get out of this trade? A backup point guard? This trade is useless for us and accomplishes absolutely nothing.

gusyouout · Post #9 » by **gusyouout** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:39 am

crzyyafrican wrote:Golden State says no. What do they get out of this trade? A backup point guard? This trade is useless for us and accomplishes absolutely nothing.

an aging backup point guard. and we lose some key players, a and part of the TE just for some expirings; not to mention all the players we give up are better than the ones we receive, and we're giving up more players too.

turk3d · Post #10 » by **turk3d** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:17 pm

The Warriors are no longer in a rebuilding mode. They are in the playoff hunt and trying to get better. This trade is junk and does absolutely nothing for them. Why take on expirings and give up our TPE? Makes no sense whatsoever if you're Golden State.

bill curley II · Post #11 » by **bill curley II** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:26 pm

I like getting Cassell to backup Baron, but giving up our 6th, 7th, and 8th guy? So we basically have Cassell to backup all 5 positions?? Ross is ok, I'd rather not play him.

Post #12 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:33 pm

clippers say yes

Post #13 » by **gswhoops** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:34 pm

Big no on this one.

dunkonu21 · Post #14 » by **dunkonu21** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:29 pm

You are horrible at proposing trades...

shagadelic45 · Post #15 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:49 pm

I've edited it a bit.....good for everyone?

deeney0 · Post #16 » by **deeney0** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:52 pm

I wouldn't call that an edit. I'd call that an entirely new trade.

I don't think anyone would give a first round pick and a TE for a 38 year old Sam I Am.

Post #17 » by **gswhoops** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:53 pm

Still a no for GS. Cassell isn't worth the TPE and a 1st.

shagadelic45 · Post #18 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:34 pm

a low #1 for a 1 year rental for vet backup pg you need?

giberish · Post #19 » by **giberish** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:52 pm

shagadelic45 wrote:a low #1 for a 1 year rental for vet backup pg you need?

With Davis and Ellis (and with Cassell's age) Sam's just a 10 mpg reserve for GS. Paying ~$4M for a half-year rental of a 10 mpg reserve might be reasonable, paying ~$4M and an 1st is way too much.

shagadelic45 · Post #20 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:53 pm

ok, i
ll take out the first.